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No. Here I think we have the novice's attempt to establish a universal time and single frame. The 'second' is different for the emitting source and the receiver because of their relative velocity places them in different intertial frames. You must choose one to measure in and then you will see that the time rate of energy flow difference is compensated for by the difference in their 'seconds'.

I forgot to mention here, people don't get locked up, they are not prisoners and should not be treated like dirt under peoples feet. We're all in this together, and if the boat sinks, we all sink together. My boss at the end of March told us that we were not to attend work from the week after Monday, he did not say whether we would receive any money the week after or not. To date we've had no acknowledgement from the company about money and I've recently learned that the government are looking at paying us up to 80% of our wages from the end of April. If we have no funds to live on, how to we live to then? People who live day to day or week to week don't really need to worry about COVID-19 as hunger will kill them before the end of April.

I wasn't aware N95 masks had a one-way valve. I use the 3M N95s and they don't have one. I assume you mean like on a half or full-face respirator. I love you Dim, but you're still failing miserably to explain yourself .

Perhaps I overreacted to your criticism of countries where "human lives are regarded sanctity". And the bit about acceptable losses being a "taboo" subject. I personally think you can NEVER write off the loss of any life without profound consequences. The idea should be to do our best to save every life we possibly can, and keep fixing the process where it fails. My point about the economy is that most of us are willing to keep working to keep things going, even without our regular pay, as long as our societal system can support us with basic necessities. We'll bust our butts for ourselves, our friends and neighbors, and even our fellow strangers, as long as we know the process will keep us at least at a subsistence level. We aren't looking to prosper out of this, or even progress. Maintaining the minimum is a lot more than many can do right now. The folks who are suggesting dangerous behavior, the ones suggesting we need to open up the country again, seem to be more interested in their balance sheets than their people. I don't expect any different from those who are capital extremists, but they use arguments like yours to justify that some folks may need to die to keep their companies afloat during this crisis. Again, perhaps an overreaction from hyperfocusing on bad faith arguments. They seem to be everywhere in US politics lately.

Lots of thoughtful feedback above. One additional point we ought to consider when framing the discussion in terms of deaths: The social isolation and change in behavior were currently experiencing will lead to far higher drops in the long term death rate, and this is true for a great many things largely unrelated to covid. Pollution is down right now. Air and water is cleaner... Manufacturing facilities are quit and their smoke stacks dormant... Traffic accidents are down right now. Crime and murder and shootings are down right now. War zones are quieter and fewer bullets are flying.... Countless other variables contributing to accelerated human death are all collectively down right now... We’re going to see a dramatic decrease in the deaths caused by these things... on the order of several hundreds of thousands of lives saved and extended... and that will eclipse deaths caused by this virus preoccupying us. Just food for thought. If Covid takes a million lives, but saves 10+ million bc of how we respond to it, then maybe that’s another reason to remind our minds to let go of and release the anxiety these daily infection and death count numbers often create within us.

Some things to note, but it would probably be more fair to take a longer time period for each month (multiple years), to calculate an estimated amount of deaths in March, there is a 7-8k difference between 2018 and 2019. A major risk factor for death is accumulated age (not only for corona virus), and ages are not uniformly distributed over all the years (there are not equally as many 40 as 60 years old etc.. Those things don't really change the focus of your post though, but I thought they would be good to note anyway. I do question why you feel that we should drop absolute numbers in favour of percentage of deaths, other than that it represents population and life expectancy (sort of)? Point two I don't really understand, should governments report deaths as a percentage of people tested, why? Assuming the minority of people is tested, this will lead to a much higher current morbidity than the actual numbers that we will be able to get after this is 'over' and do antibody testing.

If your drinking water does not meet the specification of being "pretty much devoid of pathogens" the coronavirus is not actually your big problem.

The 'economy' is not just a money making mechanism for the wealthy, Phi. It is the means by which most of us feed, clothe, house ourselves and our families; it's how we survive. I have no problem with the economy 'going for a sh*t' as long as it saves lives. But if it 'goes for a sh*t' for too long, people start losing their life for reasons other than the pandemic. That is the balance that has to be struck; dying by starvation is just as bad as dying by Covid-19. I believe that is what Danijel Gorupec meant.

I think you'd better take a good look around, Dim, and not how you imagine things. You might not like what you see.

If it turns out that the viral load at exposure significantly determines the outcome of the illness, then I think it would be fair to recommend to all people who are at risk to wear masks even for their own protection (not only for protection of others). Of course, this comes with educational lines how to do it properly. As you can see, even on this forum, we talk a lot about mask. In my opinion, this is a because unclear messages were received from professionals. I hope for clearer recommendations eventually. And I hope epidemiological profession will note this small issue into their textbooks.

Since 13mh13's posts are heavily censored and moderated, it seems prudent that some remarks be presented in this '"Suggestion" subforum.... 1. Oh, ok. 2. Do as necessary per your authoratorship (= job description) requires. 3. Realize Newton's 3rd applies : So, e.g., there may be a gazillion Reddit trolls with a gazillion IP addresses and a gazillion SF account, hungry for a little action. Everyone's home these days ... bored to tears ... just give us a 'cuse. Also, please note: I HTML-capture and screen-capture every scienceforum thread I post in, because of the Mods' massive censorship and deletions. And those captures are ... ahem ... already posted elsewheres in the Interweb, permanently embarrassing this forum, ad infinitum. Again, you've gotta have respect for Issac and classical mechanics. Thanks for your attention!