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Another useful thing I forgot to mention before. If you want special characters such as greek letters, square root signs etc directly in the text you can use Windows program native charmap.exe to select, copy and paste them straight in without any LaTex etc at all. So here is Xi by this method Ξ

Just one observation which I hope is relevant to the ongoing discussion: Simple principles can have arbitrarily complicated consequences. The much more "derived" theory is thus expected to be more unwieldy to Ockham-based criteria.

Too patient sometimes when people are just pulling stuff out of their derriere.

I hope this isn't another topic left abandoned by the OP. Started 8 December with this question - Can infinites exist in nature? What if the answer is yes BUT only if you consider mathematical objects that may not have any meaning in the real world. Classic Example: Send an object at a fixed speed from a start line to a finish line. Count the number of times the distance to the finish line can be halved. For example, at the beginning the distance was d. A bit later the distance to the finish line was d/2. Then it would become d/4, later it would become d/8... etc. You might say it was halved infinitely many times and eventually the distance to the finish line was 0. Was that something that happened an infinite number of times? Also, did it happen in only a finite amount of time, that being the total distance d divided by the constant speed s? Generally we (human beings with some liking for science and maths) say yes to those questions. An infinite sequence of events can happen in a finite amount of time. There are bucket-fulls of other examples you can consider. However, the event or thing that happened is usually dependant on some mathematical construction - the halving of the distance in the first example I gave. If you decided that space wasn't the continuous thing we thought it was but instead it was discrete or quantised then halving the distance isn't something you could always do. Let's say that the planck length may be the smallest little chunk of distance that you can have in the real world. Then you could only half the distace when there were an even number of planck lengths to start with. You have to approximate the division by 2 otherwise. There was a large BUT FINITE number of planck lengths from the start line to the finish line, so there was only a finite number of spatial configurations (approximate halvings of the distance) that could have occurred. There are a number of scientists working on the idea that space (and time) is discrete not continuous and if this seems valid and useful then the things you mentioned - Many Worlds theory (Quantum Mecahnics) and the Big bang (Cosmology and GR) are going to get a good re-think and re-formulation anyway.

Or how about "Bernie at 20,000 ft" ( This one was suggested by my Wife)

It means Prologue.

No you are trying to cool down the precession with atom's rotational frequency absorption of electromagnetic radiation, IOW make the atom spin slower. Laser cooling does not cause confinement, but your magneto-trap does, it exhibits zero magnetic field at the center, so the atoms are not lined up but confined. A lion in a cage can move around. A lion lined up in a cage cannot move around. Ya well professor Swansnot @@. Well the point a about a 2-D magneto-optic trap is I am gonna use a magnetic coils, not lasers, so it has a wider coverage. But ya maybe opposite polarity so they stay at the center, good funnel