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Hate to break it to you, but... "If any extraterestial life is in the solar system and yet they did not connect Us, it is because they do think we are not ready." ...is not an 'analogy'. It is an assertion that you cannot support. Then quit telling us what they are thinking, which is what you did when you said "...they do think we are not ready." I do understand your analogies. That is why I was able to call out your use of a straw man. You have to try harder if you want to succeed here. Digging in your heels when it is obvious to all that you cannot support your claims makes you look childish. Bullshit. Einstein could communicate with children, he just didn't try to teach them Relativity.3 points
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Well yeah, sure... I suppose if we ignore the rules of physics as currently understood and rely on fictional communication devices that we've just pulled out of our asses, then anything is possible.2 points
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Interesting article: Scientists identify 29 planets where aliens could observe Earth "Astronomers estimate 29 habitable planets are positioned to see Earth transit and intercept human broadcasts" The scientists identified 1,715 star systems where alien observers could have discovered Earth in the past 5,000 years by watching it ‘transit’ across the face of the sun. Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/23/scientists-identify-29-planets-where-aliens-could-observe-earth I find this an interesting argument. This concept was explored in the movie "Arrival". Because human beings are still essentially territorial apes, and our nation states function as such, the intrusion of a superior extraterrestrial entity into our social system could wreak havoc. There's also the issue of the human social order in terms of the ruling authority. Right now, every human society is governed by other human beings - no real surprise. Why? Because we have established social structures to confer power on those we deem acceptable (or in some cases other human beings just take power). But overall human beings govern other human beings. What happens when a significantly more advanced species (or A.I) makes itself known? If that happened, all governments and ruling systems would be simultaneously usurped. Human laws wouldn't matter anymore; only the laws set down by this objectively superior species would be heeded, potentially causing chaos.1 point
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Just read an interesting tidbit: the fraction of our rockets devoted to payload in getting to orbit is fairly small, and if you can’t get there, going beyond is a nonstarter. If you live on a planet that has a sufficiently higher g (denser than earth, or somewhat larger radius) then chemical rockets have no chance of getting you to orbit.1 point
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Before I talk a bit more on the study itself I want to take a step back and talk a bit how risks in medical interventions are generally evaluated. The key element here is monitoring certain clinical endpoints, including efficacy of the drugs but also specific indicators of morbidity, for example. In a more general sense, there are no "no effect" endpoints. If you eat a cheeseburger, for example, I could monitor increases in negative biomarkers in your blood, there could be short term shifts in the gene expression of you gut microbiota and so on. However, that tells us little about the risks. As such it would be better to use endpoints such as heart attack and stroke rates and so on. The big issue with long-term effects is that it becomes very difficult to figure out what the causes for a given hard endpoint are, which is why for example nutritional studies, which often are long-term, often do not have clear outcomes. Trials are looking at such outcomes and from that viewpoint the current the current vaccines are no different from other vaccines or therapeutics. You look at endpoints within a given time frame for a given sample size. The SARS-CoV-2 vaccines all fulfil pretty much the same requirements as you typically do not monitor individuals indefinitely after taking a medication. So as such, we can be fairly certain that the the the mRNA vaccines do not seem to have any acute effects and we know roughly as much about long-term issues as for other medication. So what is new regarding our knowledge about concerns regarding this specific vaccine? One risk that folks were concerned years back is the risk that the LNP could distribute their payload throughout the body and enrich in the liver. If the spike protein is formed there, it could result in local inflammation of the organ and liver damage. However, this does not happen. In fact, the Japanese report indicates why, within a relatively short time frame all the mRNA expression is basically gone. So what about the LNP alone? Again, you get a dose, the lipids move through your body and get metabolized. Typically they accumulate in adipose tissue or liver (which for some reason is not plotted, it is higher there than in ovaries, for example). So does this cause harm? The cited study on direct injection of pure LNP indicate that yes, if given in high concentrations they can cause inflammatory responses. However, this itself is not an indicator for adverse health effects. In fact, the paper argues that these inflammatory responses might be why the current mRNA vaccines are so effective (which was a big worry before, the fact that mRNAs are generally not very immunogenic). I.e. the local inflammation caused by LNPs could have been beneficial for efficacy reasons. We do see lower efficacy in the other vaccines, for example. While the study is helpful to highlight the potential to elicit inflammatory responses from LNPs alone, (and therefore nasal delivery is not a good idea) it does not actually suggest health issues. Again, it is about endpoints and what the study measured is not helpful to provide evidence of harm in humans. First, mice are not a a great model for immune responses in humans (which is a common issue with animal models) and second, they injected a very high amount- 10 ug, IIRC which is a huge amount compared to their body weight relative to the amount found in vaccines and the body weight in humans (we are talking over a thousand fold at least if I got my numbers right). Moreover, as you know you only get two injections, so there is no chance for long-term accumulation (as opposed to many of the chemicals we use in personal care products, for example). Thus, if inflammation caused by LNPs resulted in adverse effects you would expect to see most the effects fairly soon (within days) of injection, as the levels after that will gradually decline (rather than increase). The precise rate is not known as they only monitored for two days, but it won't be years. What we do know and expect are inflammation, which are common with most vaccines (as inflammation is the result of the immune system reacting). Mild myocardial inflammation has also been recorded which could be related to LNPs (or the vaccine in general). But again, the endpoints do not suggest significant adverse health effects. Blood clots do not seem to be different between unvaccinated and Pfizer/Moderna vaccinated folks, but seem elevated in certain population subsets in AstraZeneca vaccines, which is likely to related to the adenovirus used (there have been reports in the past for issues with certain adenovirus-based vaccines, but I am not sure what they were in detail and in any case, they are not related to mRNA-based vaccines such as Pfizer/BioNTech. Meanwhile, there are studies (e.g. https://s3.amazonaws.com/media2.fairhealth.org/whitepaper/asset/A Detailed Study of Patients with Long-Haul COVID--An Analysis of Private Healthcare Claims--A FAIR Health White Paper.pdf) showing that even asymptomatic patients might be at risk of having long COVID symptoms, though it is still about double as high in symptomatic patients. So again, we have a vaccine that might cause issues in some folks, but protects them from much bigger harm. And on top, they also protect those that are too stubborn to protect themselves.1 point
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Let me reply with a thought experiment. Let’s assume that 5 billion years ago in the milky way galaxy one civilisation have reached technological singularity and able to maintain quantum entanglement through any distances with a probe they can send out with 99.999% of the speed of light. They decide to discover the Universe and they send the entangled probes (communication device) to every area life could be possible. In 5 billion years, since they started the project, they have been able to send a probe to 38% of the known universes territory. With the entangled probes they are able to receive and communicate data instantly and so the space barrier could be solved pointing out that distance isn’t really a barrier.0 points
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This I understood, thats why I created the analogies, why it would be difficult to communicate with a significatly more intelligent and advanced extraterestial entity, even the interest is there from both party.-1 points
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Thank you Moon but this article is about how the communication of the ants is pheromone concentration dependent which is a common known knowledge. There is no information in this article, which would address the communication between humans and ants based on pheromons-1 points