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I find it sad that you have criticism for the actions of the Ukrainian President, US actions in the Middle East as well as WW1 and WW2, and even the French ( ? ), yet not one word of criticism for the idiot whose actions are the root cause of so many dead Ukrainians and Russians, V Putin. Blame anyone but the real culprit. Sad, and telling, that you and he think alike.

I don't think he'll ever understand, JC. NATO is a defensive military alliance which, through Article 5, helps prevent what is happening in the Ukraine. You don't see Russia invading Romania, Poland or the Baltic states do you ? They only invade or threaten non-NATO states like Ukraine and Finland. And then Mistermack, and Russia, wonder why those countries want to join a defensive alliance.

! Moderator Note If we could discuss complicated issues with you within the rules, it would be best. Since you continue to thumb your nose at our rule against disparaging groups, we're going to carry on without your input for a couple of weeks.

Good odds Putin would never have been satisfied. He would just keep on annexing surrounding lands piecemeal with some dubious justification or another.

The first ~100 justices were white males, and there wasn’t widespread concern about the lack of diversity in considering justices throughout that period, so you’ll excuse me if I’m not impressed by faux outrage from some blowhard.

Experiment while flat-lining? Improbable. Perceive while flat-lining? Improbable. Cases described as near death experience are of people have almost died, but didn't. Nobody has described the approaching death experience of people who actually did die. Therefore, the data collected in studies of near death experience are from people who have a memory of surviving.

Please supply a citation for this claim.

I don't need to. Anecdotes are not data. If the totality of a person's cognitive experience is in the brain, and science supports that view, there is no signal from said brain, in 4 minutes without circulation, irreversible damage will commence. If you are going to start hypothesising about some metaphysical existence, you are in the wrong place. This is a science forum and that is not science.

Okay enough with the bigotry! Is it at all possible for you to say anything without having to make ad hom attacks toward somebody? Why are you so angry? Take it from someone who knows, it isn't healthy. FYI this is a science site, so it's assumed that everyone does in fact have a brain. If you're trying to say that only stupid people will disagree with you, then you'll just be living in a fantasy world where everyone is stupid, except you and the concept of common denominator means nothing.

...disgusting... absolutely astonishing disgusting.. ..you blame victim.. instead of mass murdered and war criminal V.P... (let's his name be forgotten for eternity!) ...because you would have done what Yanukovych did... steal the money and flee...

Exactly! Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani fleeing his country with a bag of cash is the real hero of our time.

Then what the hell are you talking about Nietzsche for, you berk? This is pointless. I've had enough.

Just noticed Russian Tochka missiles used in the railway massacre are green and the Ukrainian version is grey.

The more you write, the more rubbish we read... The "deal" proposed by the opponent was "give us half the country and f**k off" (Crimea, Donbas, etc., basically everything east of the Dnieper).. Any such "deal" would put him in position of the "traitor" and "the worstest president of Ukraine ever"... just because of signing it.. From perspective of time he should have been better off shooting himself than signing such a "deal" as you propose..

You assume no invasion would happen if surrender came first. You have a valid opinion there, but as repeatedly explained to you already, you cannot validly assert it as fact.

Words which mean nothing, when push comes to shove. We defended ourselves against Iraq's weapons of mass destriction. The words meant nothing. They were there to soothe the gullible. NATO bombed Serbia. Did Serbia attack a NATO member? (not that I have a problem with that) The principle of defence is there for public consumption, it doesn't mean a damn thing in the real world. Much like the Allies did.

I'm replying to previous posts. Nobody has stuck to the OP question in this thread. The US response? Do very little, and make money doing it. Like always. The US waited years in WW1 to see which way the wind was blowing. And were content to watch for years as the REAL bully, Hitler, plough through country after country, murdering as he went, and they only took action when the Japanese bombed them, and Hitler declared war on them. So the answer to the OP should be obvious.

No, I'm not French. If you have a brain, you weigh up the odds. Especially when the lives of the innocents depend on you. Only the brainless would fight no matter what. As I posted earlier, MacArthur ran for his life, when he saw the Japanese coming in the Philippines. Shouting "I will return" once he was safe. That's what heroes do.

This is a horrible tragic incident. One of many. But who would have thought that innocent people could be injured or killed in a war? It hardly seems possible. I’m sure if Zelensky had known that a couple of months ago, he would have done some sort of deal to give up on NATO membership in the future, instead of opting for the invasion. But how could he possibly have known? Why wasn’t he told that war was a horrible thing? This is nothing to do with him! It wasn’t a lack of caring or any ability to see the obvious that guided his actions. It was his courage, leadership and grace under pressure. So I’m told. Nobody would have been killed if I’d been President. That’s probably why I wouldn’t make it as a politician.

In a way, Zelensky if very like Saddam Hussein. Saddam had NO weapons of mass destruction. Zelensky had NO chance of joining NATO. Both were threatened with invasion. Both were offered a deal that would cost them NOTHING. Zelensky, to abandon NATO membership that was never going to happen. Saddam, to allow inspectors full access, looking for WOMD that were not there. Both refused, because looking macho was more important than the lives of their people. And both ended up fighting a catastrophic war that need never have happened.

The point is, in my opinion, that you have no idea of what you (we) are talking about and I'm pretty sure you haven't took a fast look at the thesis neither, yet you are here with the only purpose to deflect the conversation with your unnecessary remarks (eg. typo error remarks) for some reason and you clearly aren't following the various posted replies.

Would that have been worse ? It's the Ukrainian way. Wikipedia has a whole section on Ukrainian corruption : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine