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Yes, I agree, that’s really all I am trying to say. It’s the uncritical assumption that “unidentified”=“extraterrestrial” that I have a problem with. To clarify my personal stance on this - I think it is unlikely that Earth is the only place in the universe (which is big) where some form of life has evolved, especially in light of recent discoveries about exoplanets and how prevalent they really are. I would nearly go so far as to say that some form of life being out there is extremely likely (just my personal opinion though), though that would of course overwhelmingly be primitive forms of life. Even primitive life elsewhere in our own solar system is not out of the question. How likely it is that some of these might have evolved into intelligent civilisations is a different - and much harder - question to answer. I don’t know what to think about this, tbh, because there really isn’t enough information available to us to come to an informed opinion, because we have only one single data point available, so we don’t know what causes and conditions must be in place for this to happen. My personal feeling is that yes, there might be other civilisations out there, but they will be rare and correspondingly far apart from one another. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it turned out that we are (at present) the only ones within our galaxy; more likely I’d guesstimate there might perhaps at most be 5-6, including ourselves, at different stages of techno-cultural development. It is wise to remember that timing is of crucial importance here - in our own case, the difference between humanity in the year 1700 and in the year 2000 is huge so far as technological development is concerned, and 300 years is a tiny fraction of a blink of an eye on cosmic scales. So chances are that, if there’s anyone else out there in our general vicinity, they are either far ahead or far behind us, statistically speaking. The next question then is how many of these 5 or so civilisations are spacefaring - that’s basically impossible to answer, mostly because we cannot guess as to the psychological motivators such an alien civilisation is subject to. In our case, we are driven by curiosity and an urge to know things, as well as economic, military and religious considerations, so engaging in space travel would be pretty much natural to us. But again, that’s a single data point - we have no way of knowing if other civilisations are driven by similar concerns. Perhaps we are an outlier, and the normal state of affairs is that civilisations just aren’t interested in what anyone else is up to (unless they are directly threatened etc, which is a whole different scenario), and instead pre-occupied with their own concerns (which might be centred around local cultural, philosophical, religious etc pursuits, rather than exploration) - even if they do in principle have the technological ability for interstellar travel. Even among those who have both the ability and the willingness to engage in interstellar travel - how likely is it that someone will actually hop onto a spacecraft (or send unmanned probes) and spend 100s or 1000s of years travelling, never even mind the amount of time it would take to communicate their findings back home? And given the large variety of very differently-looking objects we are seeing on all those many UFO pictures, how likely is it that many different civilisations are visiting us simultaneously, each using their own unique technology? The entire concept just doesn’t seem plausible to me, unless I’m wrong and the galaxy really is teeming with intelligent civilisations who have somehow found ways to work around the numerous challenges of interstellar travel. I can’t rule this out of course - perhaps the evolution of intelligence, technology and culture really is commonplace. But then I would have expected them to make sure their presence here remains undetected by us (which wouldn’t be hard for someone who has mastered interstellar travel), instead of blatantly zipping about Earth in their disk-shaped crafts, plainly visible to anyone of us who cares to look. This makes no sense, no matter how you look at it, because it risks contaminating any data they have painstakingly come to here to collect. Thus, I am all for the idea of extraterrestrial life in general - but I’m very sceptical about alien civilisations physically visiting us (and why not just observe from a distance, using their far superior technology?). That’s quite an extraordinary claim that will require equally extraordinary evidence to substantiate it.2 points
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There was a cartoon many years ago in Private Eye showing the king on the beach and a couple of chaps in viking helmets regarding him. One is muttering "silly cnut". Though actually the story is supposed to be Cnut pointing out to his obsequious courtiers the futility of attempting to command the sea.1 point
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We share the same view point and conclusion.Your post pretty much sums up my own stance I also agree that extraordinary claims require extraordinary verifiable evidence. But I also dismiss the premise that no verifiable evidence suggests no possibility, which sits at the other end of the scale. So in response to many of the claims, unless its completely obvious, or the evidence strongly points towards, that its a natural phenomenon or a hoax then I would refrain from complete dismissal. Even if we look at our own evolution, especially so as you said; over the past 300 years. Its not beyond the realms to imagine human kind, at some point in the future, via person or probe visiting other worlds (we have already done this within our own solar system using probes). For this reason I have no problem with the possibility in principle. I do however share the consensus that spacefaring aliens are likely to be extremely rare and also not likely to share temporal simultaneity with us. Thus even if they exist the likelihood of visiting Earth while humans are around would seem very doubtful. However the caveat being that if technological life is rare, an alien species is likely to be aware of this. In which case if they detect our existence then we are likely to be of some interest to them.1 point
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There are several recent articles about Chinese dissidents in the southern provinces successfully using Cantonese slang idioms to confuse and defeat Chinese state censorship on Weibo. https://qz.com/china-censors-stumped-by-cantonese-1849496778 Cantonese which is spoken by up to a 100 million people in the south of China is usually incomprehensible to Mandarin speakers in spoken form - apart from anything else Cantonese has a 9 tone pitch phoneme system - as opposed to the 4 tones normally found in Mandarin. It is possible to write Cantonese in standard Chinese script forms that Mandarin speakers can read relatively easily, but it only works if the Cantonese speaker makes a conscious effort to use standard simplified script forms, and avoids the use of obscure idioms and dialect vocabulary and grammar. The dissidents protesting against prolonged lockdowns and other forms of repression have taken to using complex and archaic scripts form for many words - quite a few of which haven’t been in common use in Mandarin since the Ming dynasty in the 17th century. The famous 18th century Kangxi dictionary (康熙字典) for example lists over 47,000 script forms, as opposed to the 8,000 or so characters that a a literate Mandarin speaker would normally be familiar with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwckaHxOWXs1 point
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I found the old copies of the McMinnville saucer and it triggered my memory of what I found wrong with them. (Apart from the fuzzy quality) I can't post them full size on here, they are 6 and 8 mb. But I've shrunk them to fit. What I noticed is that the two are superficially similar, but if you look closely, you can see that they are taken from very different locations. Look at the post and bush, next to the building on the left. You can see a big difference in the gap, and therefore the angle, and therefore the location of the camera. But if you look at the location of the saucer, relative to the overhead wire, it's just the same in both cases. The lower wire has a slight but definite kink, slightly to the left of where the saucer appears to be hanging. The saucer appears to be hanging in exactly the same place, relative to that kink, in both images. But it should not, because the camera had moved around putting quite some distance and direction between the two snaps. As the wires are close, and the saucer is supposed to be far away, the position relative to the kink should be very different. Of course, you might argue that the saucer has moved in the intervening time, to a position that gives exactly the same apparent position in relation to the wire. But that's stretching coincidence much too far for me. In fact, a moving saucer would surely have produced a very different picture, given the obvious time period that would have elapsed between the two exposures. Appearing to hang in exactly the same spot, relative to the wire, indicates what was really happening. It was hanging from the same spot.1 point
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I don't think one can rule out the third possibility of flaws in photo emulsion. Lens flaws would be repeated in many images, but it's quite possible for one spot in a long strip of film emulsion to be flawed. And such flaws could have a lenticular shape that looks remarkably like a physical object. That Costa Rica photo from the national geographic institute of CR survey in the 1970s, the one that looks like a hubcap or a pot lid, could just be a spot on the film. Consider this: out of a thousand film flaws, 995 might be so obviously film flaws that they are tossed and we never hear of them. So the five whose tonal variations and symmetry randomly happen to give a freakish resemblance to a flying saucer are the only ones brought to someone's attention. IOW, weird anomalies are self-selecting. (Want to thank my spouse, who has some expertise on old film processing, restoring, digitizing, for her helpful input on this)1 point
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the real question is how was the russian spy Sergey Brin allowed to become the admin of youtube? and how can I create youtube account without giving him my phone? articles say he has sex in his Google russian cum -contaminated office right in front of the american citizens! His youtube is the hotbed of lying , escapistic, communistic, pro war, anti ukrainean propaganda for which he receives billions. His pro russian whore Susan Wojcicki said she is not planning to close the youtube office in russia. That fucking office obeys to the rusian law. They have access to the youtube code and can therefore inject bots who spread propaganda comments and have access to the american accounts. I also know that derpibooru is administered by a russian immigrant from germany. Furaffinity admin also allows communist art.-1 points
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Young, strong, energetic people dropping like flies. This is happening all over the world not just in the United States but people refuse to believe the fact that COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous. This has to be the most wet behind the ears generation of people in the history of mankind. The democrats are counting on us to get dumber and dumber by the minute. It's very easy to brainwash and control people who are not well-informed. You say?-1 points
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Jesus will not condemn anyone by looking at a list of bad things done here. We will be accepted or rejected entrance into heaven based on our decision to repent and follow Him. If we were judged by God based on the bad things we do and the bad thoughts that daily cross our minds, no one gets into the paradise of God. We can take that to the bank.-1 points
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I say the truth shall set you free. Believe what you think is right for you. Your username is familiar to me. Believe what you think is right for you. I will post the evidence this weekend. It's sad to know that so many intelligent people believe that Republicans are the main cause of evil. Both parties cannot be trusted. I am completely vaccinated but only because my job security was threatened. I concur. Politics is evil. You are seriously blind and your path leads to death and destruction. Thank you all for your replies. I will reply to all when time allows.-2 points