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I think this looks like extra privilege as it lacks the added context why it is important to show being inclusive. The issue is that studies have shown that in many countries the health system underservices minority patients. Especially, but not limited to indigenous persons. These issues also overlap with socio-economic factors so by paying that extra care the hope is to raise the level of health outcomes to at least something approaching that of majority patients. If we are talking about anecdotes, I have somethin to share specifically in that area. When my father fell ill and was extreme pain he was diagnosed with home sickness and the MD told him that he just wants to get back to his home country. While he narrowly avoided losing the use of his legs, and he managed to continue working until retirement, he is in constant pain. The disease itself is easily diagnosed if just the same level of care had been given as to a majority patient. Also, it was not just one MD. After the first made his ridiculous diagnosis it was impossible to get a dissenting second opinion. Now, this was quite a long time ago, but these attitudes were extremely prevalent. So the course correction you mentioned there is not extra privilege. It is a countermeasure to be being treated extra-shitty.

Sorry, I don't want to interrupt the discussion, just to notice that I got exactly the same "diagnosis" many years ago soon after moving to a new country. My complaint was an abdominal pain. Later it turned out to be an allergic reaction to coconuts.

It’s tribal. Cannot be allowed to challenge or contradict their worldview or ideology, regardless of how fictional the narratives have become.

You think dreams are more a response to stimuli that actually occur during the time we are asleep than a response to stimuli that have occured during the waking hours? What kind of stimuli occur when we are asleep?(I have not gone back through the thread;perhaps you have already explained this there?)

I'm afraid it does not answer my question. A previous idea focused on constituent parts: (my emphasis) My question regarding application of this idea to electron is, what are the constituent parts of electron?

Just to be pedantic, they have already been investigating regardless of what the committee did or does, including having a special master appointed so as to minimize the risk of it being viewed as partisan (not that it will matter to the “I could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any” supporters)

I've spent 7 years as a faculty member at a minority serving institution and have a few insights that might be worthwhile into the whole concept of "woke" culture. 1. It's important to recognize that the fact that 70% of the student body comes from minority backgrounds and only 20% of the professors do. There are systemic reasons for that gap, reasons that should be thoroughly explored, identified and ameliorated so that there are no longer inherent biases in who gets to succeed and who doesn't. Evidence show the biases run deep - school districting, mortgage lending, access to medical care, etc and so on all affect opportunity. Contrary to DeSantis's lawyer's asinine comment, it's important to recognize that the playing field is not level and that race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability status etc all impact the opportunities an individual has to achieve 2. This can lead to a toxic environment (looking at you academic twitter) where fingers are pointed at people based on their identities as being undeserving or otherwise representative of a social injustice simply by existing. There have been multiple examples of extremely vindictive campaigns aimed at ending the careers and destroying the lives of privileged individuals for what amount to fairly innocuous statements or actions. Using "wokeness" simply to enact revenge on people that one deems to not deserve their position of privilege is counter-productive, I know first hand that what it does is push the privileged - who you need at the table to enact change that addresses inequity, out of the room. They delete their twitter accounts, stop coming to the EDI meetings and stop caring. 3. At the same time, the DeSanitses of the world can't deny the very observable, measurable, fact that systemic bias exists. You can't say that a poor, Hispanic, child with a single parent who has PTSD has the same pathway to becoming governor as a white, wealthy child with a stable home life because we all know that it's just not true. Pretending that they do because acknowledging your privileges played a role in your success/or lack thereof in spite of them makes you uncomfortable, or contests your flawed "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" philosophy is just fallacious and leads us back to point 2. 4. So wokeness with compassion is an important pathway to a more just and equal society. It's a term that's abused and corrupted by both sides of the argument, but if the way it is implemented is respectful, compassionate and empathetic itleads to a better place for everyone.

To the list of my doubts, I'd like to add that a conclusion regarding normality or peculiarity of a trait based on comparison of couple dozens of extant apes is weak. There were many times more apes during the last 15 or 20 million years. How many of the extinct apes were furless or had furless babies? Nobody knows. Humans happen to be the only ones surviving today. Even among other surviving apes, large parts of their bodies are in some of them furless or almost furless, such as lower bodies in some gorillas and faces in all of them. It is possible, that furlessness in humans is coincidental and does not have much to do with traits which "make us human."

Greetings All, As an epilogue of sorts to this discussion, I want to clarify an assertion I've made regarding our dreams interpreting the stimuli our brain experiences in sleep. I've asserted that our dreams are essentially interpretations of stimuli. As I now consider, that assertion isn't entirely accurate. More precisely, our dream experiences are comparative assessments of how we are mentally influenced or impacted by that stimuli. As responses to the stimuli our brain experiences in sleep, our dreams reveal their source stimulus through imagery that interpret how we are mentally affected by that stimulus. To those who have shared their insight here, my sincere thanks.

It seems I don't need to now, I was just making the suggestion so as not to derail this thread. Agreed, this is my view. But since I didn't make this clear when I stated I object to the infestation of the woke culture. It appears I have been categorised already as been, old fashioned, ignorant and hypocritical. So I'll make it very clear - I'm opposed to the corruption when abused that the woke culture brings. I'm opposed to the far left and the right, but this current wave of "wokeness" culture is infesting society in a way that is not productive and also in a way that was I'm sure was not intended by the original outset of ideas. I believe that people are now being forced into taking either side rather than finding a middle ground that is sensible and positive for society. I don't think that all this confusion is healthy for the younger generation, and yes extreme one way or the other creates either "snowflakes" (assuming I'm using the term correctly being an old man and all) and or (in Phi's words) stronger colonial thinking. Lesson learnt You know full well that I was aiming at the "image culture" that is rammed down people's throats through using social media as the platform. My social networking is spent on forums like this one, for topical discussion. Not posting photos of my egotistical image, there is a difference.