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Well, the scale is just crazy. Somewhere (if anyone asks for citation, I will do my best) I've seen estimates that if we humans were to live as hunter-gatherers, the carrying capacity of the planet would be somewhere between 200-500 million - at most 1/16 of today's population. And pre-industrial revolution, the population stayed under 1 billion, which is probably a reasonable guess at a ceiling on low tech agri, with animal-powered cultivation. A regression to anything like that now would likely be even fewer people, given the prevalence of depleted soil, fisheries, aquifers, etc. Politically, culturally....yeah, I have no idea if any current society is really going to exert maximum consumer force on agribusiness to do humane and sustainable meat production. Right now, it's just a niche, among many. Probably won't change until there's a crisis, or society evolves towards some kind of post-capitalism, post-oligarchy. Or there's massive eco catastrophe, wiping out 9/10 of the population. That tends to get attention towards sustainability issues. If they don't eat all the historians before they can remind people how they got into that reduced condition.

Those that still exist, in any case.

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