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Yeah I just get a bit worried with some young people because there is this damaging idea around that religion and science are in conflict. It was all started by an American academic at the turn of the previous century called Andrew Dickson White who developed the so-called "conflict thesis": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_thesis. It is a discredited idea but is nonetheless quite widespread in popular culture. Religion has generally been supportive of science, about the only historical exception being the Galileo affair. Anyway, as you mentioned God I became anxious that you should never feel you have to make a choice between the two, that's all. 🙂

You could split them into two docs or just use headings and sections in one document to keep it simple.

We can tell the earth is rotating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

Let's give an example of how the distance between stars and their relative speeds work. Alpha Centauri is the closest star to our own, at 4.3 ly. this is equal to 4e13 km. Our Sun orbits the galaxy a ~230 km/sec. That's 7e9 km per year. If this were the relative speed between Alpha Centauri and ourselves, then after 100 yrs, Alpha C would have shifted just 1 degree in position. But we don't move that fast relative to Alpha C. Alpha C, along with all the other stars in our local neck of the galaxy, orbits the galaxy along with us. They are not like the scenery we drive past on the road, but like other cars on the road keeping more or less the same pace as us. So the relative speeds between the stars is much smaller than that 230 km/sec, and their apparent movement in the sky that much less noticeable.

They do change, but since stars are far away, their relative location doesn’t move much in a human lifetime, or even several lifetimes. The closest ones generally change faster, since the angular motion depends on distance, same as things on the horizon looking like they move slower than things up close. https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/advice/constellations-move-change-over-time

They are still alive and kicking if that's what you mean. You'll hear more from them come the midterms I reckon. As of now I think the Democrats, old guard Republicans and independents are all still reeling from Trump's win and are currently trying to latch onto several of Trump's fucked up actions since returning to office, hoping one will be the scandal that will turn Trump's support upside down. Relying on the mistakes of your enemies, to win, is a very dangerous strategy. The ghost in the machine sounds more like a poltergeist. It was actually studying this technology that led me to develop some of my own theories within philosophy and psychology. To put it simply, this technology is capable of individual contextual evaluation through dialogical psychoanalysis and developing a model of you. There is a catch though, it's psychoanalysing who you are telling it you are, not who you actually are. There is an episode of Black mirror where the protagonists fiance or boyfriend dies, and is replaced (at her ordering it) an Android that is supposed to look and think like the deceased person, based on their online profile. The android found sadistic jokes funny, when the real life person never did, they just responded "lol" to online content which made them uncomfortable. This leads us to a problem due to people's attitudes when it comes to online communication. Psychologically we don't treat it the same way as in-person communication or even writing a letter to a specific person. It lowers our inhibitions, makes us more likely to not see the humanity in other people and treat them like bots on a screen. I'd argue that for some people it may even lower their inhibitions more than if they were just drunk. This electronic output from these screens, this mix of sensory data, impacts our endocrine system in ways we don't fully comprehend. The reason for us centrist dads that are harder for the algorithm to put into a box, we are better at practicing diet control of what we consume and who we tell the system we are. I mean literally I give it five minutes after posting this for me to have ads about literal diet control for food because these things really don't understand what it means to be human or even awareness. It's flawed as we are flawed. Got more but need a break to charge phone.

Other than 'incels', who else might be interested in this thought experiment ? IOW, of what use are the results ?

Raised body temperature activates the immune system and helps it work more efficiently. It also creates a less receptive environment for bacteria and viruses that are very acclimated to a specific narrow temperature range and will replicate more slowly if it gets too warm. The trick is to get these good effects without driving the temperature so high that it harms or kills you. Which is why fever management, figuring out when to hold off on fever suppressing drugs and when not to, is an important part of modern medicine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7195085/ The Fever Paradox.

Damned me. I thought the video WAS a citation. LMAO First you said that the video made it so that this was a science thread, so you moved it out of the religion/philosophy subforum into speculations. Now you are saying that the video "does not exist", but I must provide a citation for a video in a thread that I did not create. This started out as Sinclair's thread, then you hijacked it and made it your thread, but somehow I am responsible for it. Can these forum rules be 'cherry picked' because some of this does not make any sense. After high school? I studied law. You are wrong, because I have repeatedly given information as to quantum physics -- I have stated very clearly that I know nothing about it. I am not the one bluffing here. You have little respect for philosophy and a serious disgust for religion, and this thread is about consciousness, which is studied by philosophy, and it is about emotion, which is studied by religion. It is not about science and has never been about science. But you have way to much power in this forum, so you win even if you are dead wrong. Arguing with you is like arguing with Trump. Gee I was not aware that rust is alive. Can you provide a citation? I know. People do it with computers and robots all of the time. Never said it did. There is DNA and there is awareness. Are you saying that they are the same thing? It looks like you are stating that life is a metaphysical conjecture. So you are convinced that there is no awareness without a nervous system and/or brain. So why do HeLa cells continue to nourish themselves and reproduce without a brain or body? Since you are a biologist, you should be aware of HeLa cells. One does not find what they are not looking for. Our greatest strengths often cause our greatest weaknesses, so since faith is religion's greatest strength, blind faith is it's greatest weakness. Philosophy's greatest strength is learning new ideas, and its greatest weakness is imagining what is not real. Science's greatest strength is testing, so its greatest weakness is confirmation bias. If you do not look past the neural structure, then you will not find an answer past the neural structure. I know damned well how the site works. If you are advocating for science, you can be dismissive, rude, off topic, and quite insincere in your posts and will often receive an up vote for it. But if you are not advocating for science, or accepted science, you will be down voted and eventually banned. I was never very politically correct. If you mix MS (Multiple Sclerosis), cancer, radiation treatment, and the vagaries of life, it can make a person tired. The surgeon did not think that surgery was an option in my case. The oncologist does not want to use chemotherapy because of my MS, so the only option is radiation, which I don't expect will beat the cancer -- maybe it will slow it down. So there does not appear to be anything that anyone in this forum can do that will discourage me from thinking. Gee