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If accurate then that is a disgrace. The peaceful protestors have more right to be heard. Husmusen

Ohohoho this is reallly something. Islamic Autoprovocation. From: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/668 Also from the same. and the three FAKE cartoons. These were not drawn by Danish people but by the firebrands trying to stir up a riot http://ekstrabladet.dk/grafik/nettet/tegninger40.jpg http://ekstrabladet.dk/grafik/nettet/tegninger38.jpg http://ekstrabladet.dk/grafik/nettet/tegninger39.jpg So it seems they faked there own stuff to be offended about. Husmusen.

Whoah, that seems to me to open door big enough to fit a road train through. Example, !) The branding of the letter T (for traitor) on the forehead of a journalist was not cruel as it was not a punishment for breaking laws under Bushs "A bill for a more trustworthy media" Bill but rather a consquence of his conviction for publishing unvetted articles specified under the act. 2)The stoning of the woman to death was not cruel or unusual because it was not part of her punishment but simply a consequence of her conviction. There are some M-E governments who are just going to looove that reasoning. Cheers.

Yeah I suspect it was this one, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_eu/britain_explosion_51;_ylt=Aushu_kZp5.PT1uIAoJD1D69Q5gv;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Dead now at 40, injuries at 300+.

That's pretty bad. After Spain got bombed, England was always a possibility, I doubt that's any comfort though, at least it looks like it wasn't as bad in terms of casualties which is something to be thankful for. If Al Queeda thought bombing the British would get them anything, it seems they haven't studied history. I suppose that makes us(.au) next on the bin laden bash up list. dave and dak: Keep your chins up. Bin ladens a wimp compared to what Hitler did and your lot saw Hitler off. I suspect that the ID cards are probably all but guaranteed now though, talk about rotten timing. Sevarian: Can't be the french, no greenies were killed.

Originally posted by Glider I was under the string impression that Protien could be used by the body to produce energy, IIRC the body defaults to it when sugars and fat are not available. IIRC 1g of Protein can be turned into about 17-18KJ by the body. But your correct it wouldn't be very good for you at all. Like a pure fat or a pure sugar diet. However I think you can survive on a blubber, and offal diet, for at least 6-10 months or so. Either that or someones being telling me tall stories about eskimoes. I'm surprised noone has said Atkins diet yet . Cheers.

I'm afraid you are probably right. Cheers. P.S. The problem is that these ID systems have to work in the real world. Any IT helpdesk person can tell you what that means. Most people have no idea how inventive the general public can be when it comes to novel ways of stuffing up IT systems(Including ID cards). The more secure you make the system the less tolerant it becomes of the antics of senile old 90 year olds, mentally ill people, illiterate people, and people who should know better, the more tolerant you make it, the more loopholes. Catch 22. Secure ID systems are sort of like unsinkable ships.

Mike the headless chicken Cheers P.S. Some insects have pretty sophisticated redundancy, so I don't find it greatly surprising, snakes too move for ages after you behead them.

But mind your P's and Q's the boss may be watching . Do they have potato peeling there . Cheers.

If one only protects speech and demonstrations that one likes, how is that any good? Even dictators protect speech and demonstrations they approve of. Cheers

Quote of revprez quoting Falwell:

I don't have a detailed knowledge of US property law, so I will be commenting on general principles. What appears to have occured here is that corporations now have the right of emminent domain providing they can show some small fringe benefit to the community and sway the local council (the manner and means by which local councilors and mayors might be swayed I'll leave to your imagination but I see what Drug companies do for Doctors and I'd find it hard to believe that they keep doing it because it doesn't work). Or to put it in laymans terms, an individual may not use his property rights to frustrate a corporations ->*Right*<- to make a profit.(Sarcasm intended). I can also see this opening a big door to crony capitalism. Cheers.

You mean primitives like these? http://www.adenridgeway.com/ Hej Norskan. Cheers.

Hows this for a more likely scenario. Rather than: I% of Americans want(and for that matter know how to) protect the country and J% want to betray it. I being (in some peoples eyes) Politial party 1 and J Political party 2. Maybe just about every American want's to do the right thing by his country just one lot see the primary danger as being to the countries body, and the other lot to the countries soul(in this context it's core values and beliefs). And indeed maybe there is a threat to both, but htey are too busy bickering to notice this. Cheers.

Emphasis mine: wow, I'm a little surprised. You know it's funny but everybody talks about the Swedes and our horribly socialist government, but I mean we've got rights. The government can aquire our property for public hospitals, defence bases, public schools, roads etc. But they can't give it to other people for a shopping mall. Essentially(if the story is accurate) this implies that Mega Corps by proxy of the local council have the right to seize whatever property they desire. Cheers.

Well I've just done a quick study of Rove and I'm amazed anyone would take a statement by him to heart, he seems to be a loyal Bush attack dog and campaign manager, and to be as Machiavelian as they come, hence nothing he says can readily be trusted as the probability that it is part of a deception or distortion is high. After decades in politics I doubt this guy even remembers how to call it like he sees it. Cheers.

Samurai also used to use guns although it never sat really comfortably with their culture it was a fact that the clans who adopted them won , and it was a fact not lost on many of the Daimyo. So Guns ruled and swords became ever more ceremonial, IIRC there was later an edict forbidding some samurai to own swords and thus was ushered in an age of concealed swords. Ninjas IIRC were ruthlessly pragmatic, they would use anything as long as it worked. Also since they couldn't carry arms openly like the samurai, and any samurai could search any peasant at whim and kill him if he was found armed, they used to use common everyday objects a lot, like a sickle on the end of a chain, I think there was some conflation in terms of weaponry between peasants and ninjas. I have heard two different "tales" concerning ninjas, one is that they were peasants in revolt against the samurai. The other is that they were the Tokugawa version of the NSA, essentially spies in the graden, that the shogunate used as a second line of information on the local rulers. And occasionally as assasins when there was some dirty work that the Tokugawa didn't want traced back to them. Ofcourse it could have been both at once, I doubt there was only one single clan of niwaban across all of Japan. Cheers.

Off the top of my head. Good: Eucalyptus, this is beautiful. Fresh warm pine cones and needles. And the aromatic compounds from lavender. (I don't know the names of these) Berry esters? Raspberry, Blueberry, Strawberry, especially lingon. Mmmm. Citric acid. The smell of new washing machine,(I put my head inside the new washing machine as a kid, and took a breath, very nice(mainly rubber I think)). Not sure good/bad: Isopropyl initially smells pleasant to me but smells more unpleasant over time and then ceases to have any odour. Isopropyl can do some funny things to you if you use it in a confined spaces, dizzyness, and some interference with walking reflexes and alteration of perception, not sure what, just different, somehow, like a change in the light fortunately it's as brief as it is potent, you don't notice it until you pull your head out of the midi tower, and get up, then it hits you like a blood pressure drop, woooooh. Most unpleasant. Bad: Cloudy ammonia, (urg, puke, hurl). Chlorine, more a coughing fit. The compouinds produced by the bacteria in chicken shit, when exposed to damp/wet straw and mud and agitated by the pattern of little feet. (urg, puke, hurl, reetch) The smell from a freshly unwrapped videotape, unpleasant. The compound produced by decomposing fish. Vapourised metals(when the microwave broke and about an inch hole was burnt out of the floor of it before the fuse blew) really dreadful acrid bitter taste, like I imagine eating ash would taste, stings your eyes and catches at your throat. Not wanting to find out white inhaling fine metal particles into the lung can do I ran in(holding breath) opened a few windows and ran out. Ketones, unpleasant but not hideous. Malena <-- Nuff said. Cheers. P.S. Looking back on it might have been some ozone in the microwave incident too.

Agreed, apart from short sharp jabs, the muscles that do most of the powering are located in the torso, and transmit force via tendons. That way they don't have to be moved every time you move your arm, similarly the muscles that move your finger are (mostly) in the forearm. Makes an awful lot of sense really in design terms. Before I saw them in action I always had this idea that Sumo wrestlers were really heavy and lumbering, but they arenn't their speed and agility can be quite startling so too brown bears are also very agile, like a dog. So looks can definately be deceiving. Cheers.

Social workers should not be prescribing medicines. To be fair walking chaos clusters tend to be more symptomatic of overwork with high stress load. e.g. social workers working with children, it has a very high rate of nervous disorders(PTSD, OCD) and burnout. But I can vividly imagine how it would just fill you with confidence. Cheers.

More to the point he just posted his email address on an open website that can be scanned by bots without using a, write-as-I-meant cipher , poor soul. Here comes the spam, like a marching army of soldier ants. (I did this once on my webpage, 1000+ fscking spams a day of which 100 penetrated the best filters. I had to can the box in the end ). One lives and learns Cheers

Thinks of Mr "YES SIR Mr. F. SIR" F. stoned. "Oh IIIIIII Am the very model of a modern teaching general, so You 'll all know your animals begetbales ..." Seriously though, it sounds like you are just by nature a curious and imaginative person. If you want some advice, here it is. Avoid meds, especially Ritalin. It was a product of suck-it-and-see science back in the 1930's. 1) Try getting a good sleep, I am not kidding, not enough sleep is, I think, the major cause of not being able to concentrate. 2) Go to bed an hour early and get up a half hour early. Make yourself a nice, sweet, cup of tea, and find somewhere peaceful, and drink it while contemplating the beauty and transiance of all things physical or the virtues of existance or just close your eyes and listen to fur elise if you live in an appartment. A relaxed start to the day can make a big differance in class. Cheers.

It was not a diatribe, it was neither bittter(annoyed certainly), nor excessivly lengthy. I'm glad you explained your reasons as I get more where you were coming from, but I still feel you were out of line making insinuations about loopies motives in the manner you did. I actually agree with many of your reasons for being cautious. That is why I posted my conclusion because I felt it was important that lepi not draw the wrong conclusion that my advocacy of his right to make that offer, without people making rude and un-evidenced insinuations about his "real" motives, did not mean I was advocating the offer itself. If it was the word "Bloody" that made you think my post was harsh, in Australia that's a farily weak word, but I usually avoid using such words on international forums specifically because of their widely varying potency. As for your explantion of "I didn't think he'd come back to read it." Whoops. And yes your right I do worry about that kind of attitude as I fear it could do an enourmous amount of harm over time to any society that embraces it, a social poison of sorts. Cheers.

I think it's a bad idea to set your moral compass by the lowest common denominator. Just because Al Quaeda would or would not do something doesn't make it ok for everyone else. (If OBL put his head under a train would you copy him?) A second point is that since I understand many of the prisoners were captured by the Northern Alliance for US Dollar bounties, the odds are many of them wil have been fairly innocent nobodies who the NA saw as dollar signs. The NA are in my opinion no better than the taliban and maybe a bit worse(that's not saying anything great about the taliban BTW). A third point is that even if there were some Alqueeda footsoldiers in there (always possible) It's been three years, so all their information is out of date. I'm pretty sure Alqueeda has been "remoddled" a bit since the US and Co have been hunting them with a vengance. Infact if Alqueeda didn't cycle codes and methods at least every three years they would(I suspect) be owned by every intelligence organisation from Australia to Zimbabwe. A fourth point is that since torture of captives makes surrender of opposing forces far less likely(especially long term torture). Such a policy is probably costing US and British soldiers lives(at least in the larger skirmishes) as well. If the people being tortured have out of date information that seems especially sad as those soldiers are then dying for no purpose at all. A fifth point is that everyone I have talked to says that torture is not effective at getting you reliable information. There is an interesting story about the Japanese use of torture against some Australian air officers in a book called "The Rats of Rangoon", basically after being tortured for a bit, the Aussies lied like crazy and after a while, they were saying what the Japs wanted to hear so the japs believed them. I remember Tolstoy saying that if you allowed a morally detestable practice in pursuit of your own "righteous" cause. You weaken your defenses against others doing it to you. I also get the strong impression that the US feels the need to do this to demonstrate it's "Power" and instead gives an impression of weakness. At one point someone stated the the US didn't need to care about what others thought of them, that arguement is basically a form of the "were to powerful to have to concern ourselves with morality" argument. From my understanding of history that approach has usually preceded a fall for any nation that engages in it.

I feel you're wrong in this ATM. To use the "" around help was bordering on an ad-hom and a bloody nasty one at that. I have seen this perverse morality that says you should avoid helping people in case some individual gets the wrong idea. It applies all over the place. Don't help the widow, people will talk. Don't help or comfort little children, someone might accuse you. Don't stop if you see a person lying by the side of the road they might be muggers and so on and so forth. As far as I am concerned offering someone a shoulder to cry on, is not against any law except perhaps in Yemen, (tough for them then). As long as that's all he does, I can't see the slightest thing wrong with it. Now if you have evidence of some bad intention lets hear it. If you don't you need to calm down a bit. If you're concerned for leoptidira, PM her rather than insinuating things on the forum. Oh but that could perhaps be taken the wrong way so perhaps you'd better not . P.S. Lepidoptera, I'm NOT advising you to take up loopies offer, not because I suspect him of anything but just because I don't know him/her from a bar of soap and I (and you) have only two posts to go on. For all I know he could be some eight year old who thinks it's marvelous fun to get email addy's and submit them to spam engines. (Just an example) You might want to try talking to Coral or Dak or some of the others who are more of a known quantity so to speak (if they don't mind, ask first). Cheers.