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never saw contact or stargate.....too busy, nor the matrix for that matter....trailer seemed superficial. I suppose most of what I said was said years ago in these movies...as to entanglement, the first use in practical a sense would be communications, as that seems fairly straightforward....like the "sub-space" comm system on star trek....much later with the movement of material objects.

not too sure as to the taste of left handed sugar, only what I read, it does seem like a good idea........if (and a very big if) everything is information, then this can be produced by a computer, as that is what computers do, so therefore, with knowledge of how matter is described by the universe, we will learn the routine of making our own. Possibly neither the universe or us will have to "maintain" matter with a constant refreshing by dark energies....perhaps it can stand on it's own once created. It does seem like a cumbersome idea and I am liking it less and less as I think about it........Sure there is dark energy here... it's everywhere isn't it ? I say this as I see dark energy being exactly this "virtual particles" phenomena as detected in the casimir effect experiments.....which seem to be everywhere as long as there is no "confinement" beneath a certain physical size so as to suppress their expression. That is one more reason to not like the "refreshing" idea...if dark energy (virtual particles) expression is only apparent without being constrained physically, that is ok for energy floating through space, or a single bit of matter floating about freely, but what about all the matter in the earth, or some solid material? There wouldn't be "room" for the energy to do it's job.. I can see a partial case for energy such as magnetic fields, light, and etc. free of encumberments in space being refreshed moment to moment by dark energy, but not matter....so I am restricting any thought of "maintenance by dark energy" scheme to energy only........as far as the "setup" - are you referring to entanglement enabled instant communications ? I was writing on another forum about that. I really have to get out pencil and paper and write down what I said and where so I can refer to it in cases like this...but on that subject, doesn't entanglement supposedly cause an instantaneous reaction between 2 entangled particles if one is disturbed, regardless of distances involved? And isn't the speed of gravity (not gravity waves) have to be near infinite in order to get newtonian equations to function correctly?.It seems that there are two superluminal speeds here and I have been trying to get a response from someone as to their possible relationship, if any. I would love to hear speculation on that one...it sure seems like a fertile field with regards to gravity having some "resettable casual entanglement" property between every material object in the universe...of which entanglement is constantly breaking, then resetting somehow, providing an on, then off again condition at a particular "clock frequency", and this pulsing of entanglement make and break, is gravity and each pulse of on and off is a "graviton"...just a starting thought which is pretty silly, but might give a few days of interest. Are there any other superluminal speeds in the universe? That seems a safe question....lets start there .....anyway.....do you still think cows have no logic? I feel that is the only subject we have talked about that I may be on the winning side of......later tar..hoola

no problem with thinking about using worm-holes or teleportation devices....but the next step in the "faster horse" idea is going to be literally, a faster horse....as a step such as the automobile being faster than the horse, plane being faster than a car...etc. If we want a technological evolution, we must go through all the steps, it seems..and teleportation seems several steps away before we can eliminate "the horse" and simply appear somewhere else, with perhaps a super-entanglement transceivers set up at various points within the universe, which seems the most likely scenario of getting rid of "the horse". In my thinking, we would still need the horse to set up the send-receive stations, say from earth to various points in the solar system, and once established, could transport quickly around....so if we wanted to transport to a distant interstellar point, then we would have to ride our fastest horse to get there, then once an entanglement transceiver is established, could pop in and out of and established system at will, from earth to alpha centauri, if desired. Unless some sort of communications could be established with an intelligence at remote distances, then an entanglement transceiver could be built in cooperation with the other intelligence, in both locations,and we wouldn't have to go there in a fast horse first, not they to ours.

in keeping with my thinking that the universe evolved from simpler to more complex, a 2D generation of a 3D state does fit the requirements But, if you are talking origin theory....I see the universe having come from a zero-dimension singularity, and the dimensions being described mathematically within the void. This is to say it went through a phase of a sort of hologram projected from a 2D surface, as a maturation process of universe as it went through the various stages of description of energy/mass to actual reality. I see the dimensions as the final set of algorithms developed within the singularity, and with the expression of these dimensions, the big bang was produced by liberating previously described primordial energy . So, in getting from zero dimensions to 3 ( or beyond), I have no problem with moving through a 2D temporary phase.... I envision the expression of the dimensions with....first a single line intersecting the singularity, then the line becoming a plane, then the plane becoming the universe. In this scenario, a 3D universe is projected from the 2D plane...and at that stage goes from description to reality. A possible validation of this idea of progression of dimension expression is an effect on the shape of the universe today, and be evident in the CMB maps, perhaps in the "line" Tegmark shows in his map.

well, cows have some logic...all species that exist wouldn't have been able to survive a hazardous world without some logic...the amount to allow a cow's survival, reproduction, rearing their young long enough to permit the continuation of their species is probably quite high as they are in the large mammal class with us. They can't discuss the subject, but that doesn't mean they have none. You are right in your asessment they have no math, despite the reports that their cousins, the horses can add....you talk about Kant and his classifications of human language categories and that there are various ways of looking at or describing something and there is a limitation to any description. The ability to describe many properties of the thing is all good and well as far as humans go, but we have a smaller informational base compared to the entirety of the maths. Further, I believe that as vast as the maths are that built and sustain this universe, that is only a portion of the entirety that is allowed to appear in our universe. The rest is inconsistent with our universe's logic and perhaps used to build and sustain other universes, perhaps concurrent with ours, and having some properties close enough that we have some features in common...say gravity, which might explain dark matter. .....as far as information in a computer as "representing something else" - novel things can appear either written or visual in a computer. Take computer generated images for example...yes, a primitive state still, but probably not for long. How long before plank-speed quantum computers will generate "real" matter ala Robbie the Robot on the movie forbidden planet...? Never?...possibly.....you mention "plank-length" in regards to the CMB...I'm not sure what you mean...the CMB reference was regards to plank-time, which I mention above, but I must admit I have been blogging so much in so many forums, I may be getting confused...but the mention of plank-time above has to do with the maintenance of reality by the dark energy points of space "refreshing" reality in the plank-lengths of time. ....finally, in the peanut butter cup analogy, you have conveyed some information as to the item in question with a few keystrokes.....I can "imagine" one now...taste and smell...so you have created, a mental description of the item. Now, if you were to have a quantum-speed computer and could build it quark by quark, by creating the ingredients of the cup, such as the water and organic molecules of various types, you could mix the water and the organics and pop it in the oven.... or a sentient robot (robbie) could do even this last kitchen task. If the molecules are indentical in structure to present day ingredients, you would not be able to tell the difference. An electron is an electron and you can't taste the difference. However, as reality is sustained moment by moment by dark energy, would the synthetic peanut butter cup disappear if you were to turn off the computer used to make the ingredients? Or would the natural dark energy step in an take over it's sustained existence, not recognizing it as "foreign" material? This is just an odd thought I just had, and will have to think about this.....it seems the universe is big enough to squeeze in a fake peanut butter cup....but, if a person ate a computer generated peanut butter cup, and it did disappear after the computer is turned off.... You could have your cake and not eat it... In all likelyhood, the "cake" would persist after the computer that made it is turned off. Perhaps, some small variation could be made to the ingredients that would mimic the exact food to a human taster, but be different enough on a quantum level so as to disappear or break down, with some sort of sped up proton decay to makes the cake decay to heat before if reached the stomach or maybe just the unhealthy ingredients like the sugars. just a quick follow-up on the sugar thing...I read years ago that if we could synthesize "left-handed" sugar in the lab, it would taste the same as regular sugar, but wouldn't get absorbed by the gut....that shouldn't require any extraordinary physics to accomplish.

I went onto the philpapers and will have to re-read it a few more times to get through the dense text. The heading of the text listed "quantum physics....." this makes one think that quantum processes are involved in thought process. I recently read about the genes within brain cells turning on and off in a digital fashion and being a major component in thought processes, as well as the traditional electrochemical system. That is pretty outrageous. And to imagine quantum processes having a hand in thought is even moreso. Are we at least partly "quantum computers" ?

free will at it's most profound is the ability to think. We can think, but with limitations. So, we have limited free will, which means we do indeed, possess free will. What are those limitations? Various and many, depending on the individual being, as existing as a fruit fly, monkey or man. Regardless, free will exists, and in various proportions accorded by the particular species involved and their relative brain sizes, and the overall fitness of said brains. I think there is a fundamental limit to free will, and that is set by the underlying logic that allows maths to function. I think the free will limit is (usually) set by the fact that much information is not expressed within out universe, but exists only in a theoretical sense, but nonetheless exists mathematically, or even we could not imagine it..... The beauty of the human mind is that we alone are able to "see" across that divide between logic and illogic and imagine things that couldn't possibly exist.....so we have a sort of "super free-will" with being able to "straddle both sides of the fence".. But to even us or any sentient being in this universe, there is a limit to what can be imagined, as set by the total mathematical informational content of our particular universe.. although I see this content as constantly on the increase, as maths are constantly on the increase. Our ability to imagine is rather limited, so no worry about sensing any actual restriction to human thought. This perhaps may become an issue with the self-aware quantum computers....

isn't the problem that a presumption is made that a circle contains an infinite number of points? And didn't "the quantum" restrict a discrete non-infinite set of points to a geometric shape such as a circle and save us from the ideas such as the old "movement isn't possible as there are an infinitude of points between A and B, therefore it would take an infinite period of time to get travel between them",,,,I say there is no infinite anything, only a very large number "on the way" towards infinity if time were itself infinite, of which it is not.... We are saved from the negation of logic by...... "just say no to infinities"......

IF the material universe was described by the various algorithms of maths within the confinement of the singularity, and the release (big bang) of this information was permitted with the creation of space by the dimensions, what if any shape of existing space would be discernible by an extrapolation how of these dimensions were expressed? If the dimensions were the first information expressed outside the singularity, it seems logical that they were expressed in a particular order of simpler to more complex. That order being: First the X axis, or the first appearance of a line of (theoretical) primordial energy with an intersection at the singularity, then the second being the addition of the Y axis, with the line becoming a 2D plane, then the addition of the Z axis, becoming the 3D inflation volume as proposed in theory. It is at this point that theoretical energy crosses the barrier between theoretical reality and extant reality with the final dimension in place. If this sequence of order of dimensionality "construction", or description is right, then the overall shape of the universe should have a remnant of the original single line, and/or the single plane in the CMB readings.

speaking of linguistics, if logic preceded maths then what information medium did proto-logic use to internally communicate with itself in order to evolve to a final logic set? Maths were yet to be possible, so I imagine some sort of "logic-latin" was used in the process, which was discarded, or perhaps added to, much as a dead language, when maths became expressed as the outgrowth of formal logic. In modern-day languages, latin itself isn't used, but many languages have latin roots evident.

isn't what is intended to be studied is the decay of a particular atom in relation to a proximate neighbor atom's decay? In a lattice of evenly spaced atoms, does a close neighboring atom's decay - increase/decrease/have no relation to - a particular atom (the control) decay probability? In this study each atom's position must be known. Could a lattice of buckyballs, each holding one atom be a proper structure for a test? If it were a square sheet of buckyballs, the ability to locate a particular atom's decay would be simpler than if were a cubical form with equal sides. Wouldn't the simpler 2D sheet be a good enough for a test of control decay probability being altered by proximate decays?

I think virtual particles are the dark energy that is expanding space. They seem to be everywhere in space all the time, generating this energy. In the lab, it seems that they can be controlled to an extent with simple confinement experiments such as the casimir effect...so it seems they need a certain spatial area to express this energy, and in space they are largely unconfined. Since they are pushing material within space apart, that creates more empty space with which to appear. This seems to lead to the expansion creating more available dark energy in proportion to the material total within the universe, which would seem to account for the acceleration of the expansion....more empty space = more dark force = more acceleration, in a kind of runaway feedback system, mimicking the behavior of an explosion.

interstellar travel should not be attempted until a method of propulsion can be developed that will not leave a residue trail such as chemical propellants. Other than voyager, we should wait and remain within the solar system, even with robot craft. Seems there is plenty to do locally, such as fixing the mess we are creating here. At any rate, one possible propulsion system I can imagine is using the dark energy force to provide a "green" propulsion in the next century. A manipulation (shielding?) of the natural dark energy forces in space ahead of a craft would cause it to move forward. And likewise, manipulations at the sides of a craft would allow steering in the other two axis. An actual generation of synthetic dark energy force aimed out the rear of the craft would create an extra amount of acceleration, pushing against space itself. If the universe and everything in it, including dark energy is information, then that same information might be generated and then manipulated by computers, and the only energy input to the drive/steering system is the energy to run the computers.

given an infinite set of legos, the universe perhaps could be built...but where did these legos come from? Maths are theoretical and have no substance, yet can be used to describe substances. It is a stretch to think that these descriptions are so complete so as to give arise to substance itself, especially our own bodies...but at what point does breaking atoms into parts do you come to something akin to a only a discription of smaller parts? This is what I can see as the string theory's modus, or that "strings of numbers" are emanating from discrete points of space to maintain matter, energy, fields, and even the dimensions. I see that this occurred with the big bang. Information built up in an area of reduced entropy in the sea of chaos, creating a "void" in the chaos, logic if you will, culminating in a singularity with the adding maths upon maths in a theoretical sense, until a particular set of logic algorithms coded for the dimensions. At the point that dimensionality was expressed, the first information appeared outside the singularity. With the description of the dimensions, matter and energy had a release from containment, space was created, and appeared as the big bang. Since then, the information is ongoing, but dispersed throughout the universe, appearing as dark energy instead of being sequestered within the singularity. This dark energy maintains reality and has some form of memory or informational inertia, that maintains the material universe in a substantially consistent manner in a quantum sense, being essentially the same moment to moment in plank-time units, unless acted upon informationaly by inputs from other sources impinging upon the algorithmic output of a particular dark energy source. When I say it "remains substantially consistent", I mean it's ongoing expressions of a certain numerial sequence continue....a constant flow of energy(data stream) is required to refresh a certain bit of matter or component of a field as remaining, say keeping a proton tending to remain a proton, This leads to a thought of creating matter bit by bit, by creating the informational components making up a particular set of nucleons, with a computer doing the same thing as by essentially mimicing the action of a particular set of dark energy point sources. Having a matrix of data streams creating and then maintaining in a theoretical sense, like a present day video game, but with paralleled quantum computers, perhaps something as big as a photon could be created to actually appear to an observer and be indistinguishable from a "normal" photon. In a sense being a synthetic form of energy. Extrapolating on all this over-the-top silliness, if we were understand the basics of informational reality, why couldn't we create novel forms of matter in the lab? Or develop useful things such as dark energy drive for vehicles, eliminating messy exhaust fumes here and in space, the only energy needed for propulsion being the power to run the computers that creates the required manipulations of synthetic dark energy expression? Hoopla indeed, sir.....

john wheeler said it.....why the quantum and why anything? All the thinking in the previous entry of mine are based on the "information is the basis of everything" ideas of his.....edd

I see the universe as a manifestation of mathematics itself, as it has created (and still creates) information, which describes particles, fields, energies and maintains their existence. What get expressed in the extant universe passes the "logic" test, or has it's appearance supported by the same logic base that allowed mathematical structure to form. Mathematics is the (theoretical) program "software" that is in the ongoing process of creating a "hardware" (physical reality) by describing that hardware in moment to moment plank lengths of time. Hence, I believe we are only quasi real beings, but that is not to discount that free-will, love and beauty cannot realized, even with the limitations as to the underlying solidity of the world we live in. This seems to jibe with the quantum mechanical strangeness of matter, and demonstrate the extremely baroque nature of mathematics, to the point of it becoming capable of producing sentience and self-examination. In keeping with the topic of a "linguistic" TOE, mathematics is the language spoken by logic. This is not to mean logic is "god". As logic itself must have had an evolution itself, perhaps from an area of reduced entropy that arises in the sea of chaos from time to time and occasionally persists long enough to form a region of sustained logic outgrowth. There may be other, competing logic structures, that define other universes with an unknowable set of logic restraints that are self-referencing and internally consistent to produce a form of sentience such as ours, arising out of the same miasma of chaos. The commonality to ours is that mathematics is still used as the "linguistics" to express the foreign logic dictates. To extrapolate further, given a common language of mathematics, communications between differing universes may be possible.

the lack of development of the reputed efficiencies of the diamond cathode in industrial or medical uses as a cold cathode emitter seems evidence of an early overestimation of the technology's potential. Or of the traditional method of hot filament approach being so well understood, reliable and cost effective, that there is no incentive to develop an alternative. The article states a "crystalline diamond" coating was used in the MIT prototypes. Not a "nanocrystalline", for whatever that detail is worth.....and that the article stated a reduced output was seen in the prototype compared to standard emitters, but the theoretical efficiency seemed quite high given proper development....this is starting to appear to be similar to the "pebble-bed" type nuclear reactor talk I heard of years ago that seems to have not delivered the benefits early proponents were giving, that I had such hopes for....or even fusion reactors for that matter...alas indeed, sir.

is this inflation at the beginning of the universe and the speed of gravity have any co-relation? Both being supposedly super-luminal. I am not talking about gravity waves, which are held at C, but the straight line effects of gravity as being (near) infinite, so as to allow newton's gravity laws to work correctly.....edd

the article is from Scientific American October 1992 (vol. 267, no. 4) titled Diamond Film Semiconductors, pages 84-89, authors Michael W. Geis and John C. Angus. And I have taken down the article as I have read the fine print on the head page of the magazine and they specifically prohibit reproduction of the article without permission....sorry. I will contact them for permission and then will re-post if they allow me to. For a complete article, I suggest going to their webpage and downloading the article. I will do this and see how this is done, and if there is a charge. I will get back to you with details. I do not wish to be in trouble with the S.A. magazine, even though I doubt they would be very upset with posting an article over 20 years old, but I will do the right thing and try to correct my error....edd well, I just went to the SciAmDigital.com and they list their archives as starting in 1993.....3 months post the magazine article in question. I am hopeful that it is available from them through some extended search, and I will continue to persue the matter. There is phone number of 1-800-925-0788 for print copies listed, of which I will check out also. Sorry, I expected it to be quick and get the article back on tommorow....I will call the phone number and see what can be done....perhaps after 20 years the articles become public domain?..... I am wondering if a copy could be purchased on ebay? ......edd just checked on ebay...one issue seems to be there for a "buy it now" $9.77 ....edd

ed earl ...here is few lines from the SA article in answer to your question: (in what way would these tubes outperform solid state devices?)...I quote the article......ARTICLE TAKEN DOWN PENDING APPROVAL OF MAGAZINE....edd

if the information within strings in a black hole is retrievable, does this mean that the strings are information, and not mere carriers of information? That is, the "strings" are composed of a non-material sets of numbers, of certain algorithms by which describe differing material objects. As I understand black holes having the property of reducing material substance to it's smallest component, wouldn't this smallest component be the information that describes that substance, as I understand John Wheeler's "information is the foundation of everything". To me, this would imply that the material that fell into the black hole is gone, with nothing left but the descriptions of those particles. And does this description retrieval imply that black holes are essentially a recording device? Would this also mean that light falling into a black hole could be retrieved, and we could orbit a black hole and access the light information so as to see everything that happened near the black hole since it's formation, like a backwards-running movie?

if you are saying human timeline being of the next few decades, then a truly advanced propulsion system is maybe not what you want....but if you mean in a few hundred years, then something as a chemical propulsion would seem pretty old fashioned. I have thought about advanced propulsion systems using dark energy as propulsion. That is, by learning the actual fundamentals of the energy source and then building a machine, to cancel out the field's effect on one side of the vehicle, say the front, then using the remaining forces to push the vehicle forward. A partial cancellation of side forces could provide left and right steering and of course, up and down would be controlled in a similar fashion with controlled cancellations above and below the vehicle. This would provide a "green" method of propulsion. No messy exhaust debris to clutter up space....the energy wouldn't be strong enough to get it off a planet, it would have to towed or placed in orbit with conventional chemical thrusters perhaps, but once free of strong gravity fields, it could be a viable option for deep space travel, with small but steady accelerations maybe similar to a solar sail....so not useful for staying in the solar system....edd

to too open minded...a good question- why did the big bang occur?....I believe in an informationaly based reality where the big bang was the release of accumulated information from within the singularity. When the singularity created enough detailed information as to "code" the expression of the 3 dimensions, then all the previously created information sequestered inside the singularity (energy, matter, fields) were given a place to go by those dimensions allowing a physical expression of this information. As space was created through the liberation of information, so continued the bang, but in a diffuse pattern, everywhere, instead of concentrated within the singularity. Since the energy is diffuse now, no worries of another big bang exploding out of nothingness, but "nano-bangs" everywhere, appearing as the dark energy that is continuing the big bang, but at a reduced pace. Why the information was being developed in the singularity has to do with a pet theory of mine that describes the point of the singularity being spherical in geometry and that geometry has the diameter/circumference ratio delivering PI or 3.14159.....etc...regardless of the size of the sphere, or even if the sphere is "theoretical" or not...... A perfect generator of all the required information to construct a universe, given enough time to deliver a baroque set of algorithms of near infinite extent. The idea is more complex than that, but that is the outline of it...I have described this before in more detail if you are interested in hearing of it, I'd be happy to, I am sure someone will explain to me in terms I can understand that it is not possible, and my favorite "theory of everything" will have to be abandoned. Until then, this is my own small attempt to answer the "why anything" question. How can something come from nothing? It seems that "information describing something" is a good starting point. Now, how that is done, if at all, is an interesting question. If anyone has an idea how this could occur in some other way, it would be fun to hear it...edd

what you may be referring to are subliminal messages. Both audio and video have been used to promote political movements, commercial interests and the like since words like "thirsty?" were inserted into single frames of a movie at drive-ins back in the 1940s, to increase soda pop sales, or so I have read. I remember reading after the fall of the soviet union that an early act of the new administration was to ban subliminals in mass communications like russian television....more than likely, as commercial interests took over the role of master manipulator of their society, subs were re-introduced, if they ever disappeared, to push products, whereas they used to push a political agenda. This modern form of "manufacturing consent" is well documented by persons such as Noam Chomsky and others. And it is nothing new. Political propaganda with language manipulations and official control of popular art have always been used in the image promotions of kings and queens and before them by the dynasties of egypt to persuade a populace to fall into line with royal edicts....the best way to counter-act these influences is to recognize them for what they are and understand what the true aim of the particular media message is...thereby not being subcosciously manipulated by them.

I like the discussions of infinite vs. finite universes. I see that there is a barrier between the infinity of mathematics (the theoretical) and the extant universe, or universes (the real). This calls into question is there even an infinity in mathematics? If there is a limit to the rate of any calculation set up by the underlying logic of the universe, than only an "approaching infinteness" can be achieved even in the theoretical realm of mathematics...so the real universe(s) seem less likely to posess any infinities in them, if the underlying mathematical information is limited to non-infinities. However, I see the realm of math as have a defacto infinite possibility within it. Not true infinity, but as infinite as the underlying sub-structure of mathematical constructions, or logic itself, allows and that this heading towards infinity in a theoretical realm, translates into the real universe's plank scale basic increment of time that keeps everthing from happening at once on this side of the theoretical / real divide.....edd