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What a leap. What about all of the late-onset medical conditions. We don't know how long we would live without these toxins. Jim Adrian

Plants do not do a good enough job to prevent serious polution of the human body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body https://www.futurebe...m/nutrients.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_(nutrient) Jim Adrian https://www.futurebe...jamesadrian.htm

John Cuthber, I am concerned about the ability of the roots to distinguish between water-soluble metal chlorides. Cadmium chloride and the uranium chlorides would not be good to eat, but potassium chloride is. I appreciate the news that microorganisms might not be the best way to separate compounds. Might there be a Science Forums forum that is devoted to plant chemistry where I might bring up this project? Thank you for your help. Jim Adrian https://www.futurebe...m/nutrients.htm

Radiation is not my primary concern, although every cubic meter of seawater contains 30 mg. of uranium (an indication of its accumulation in soil). It all comes from space. Uranium substitutes for calcium and stays in the bones indefinitely. It is mildly radioactive and surely accounts for some cancers. Cadmium is not radioactive but it is very toxic and does not leave the organs of the body without special medial treatment. Older people have more of it and younger people have less of it. This is one mechanism for late-onset medical conditions. The idea that only a little bit is harmless is not always true. Hormones are effective in very small amounts and so are some toxins. There is also the Witches Brew effect to consider. Many (let's say N) toxins taken each in very small amounts have a greater biological consequence than N times any one of them. I am hoping that there is an inexpensive way to take unwanted water-soluble materials out of harvested phytoplankton, for instance. The article I mentioned lists the elements that can form safe compounds for plant food (less than 30 elements). Maybe somebody has worked on a general method of using microorganisms to separate seawater into its compounds. The separation of soil into compounds is also very much of interest. Thank you for your help. Jim Adrian https://www.futurebe...m/nutrients.htm

Our food is grown in lakes, soil and seawater. These are the ultimate sources of our nutrients. I am looking for methods, if they exist, to use microorganisms to separate the compounds in these sources. I would like to produce a plant food that contains only compounds known to be nutrients for humans. The compounds known to be human nutrients are comprised on fewer than 30 elements. Every stable element in the periodic table is in soil, and some of them never leave our bodies without extraordinary medical procedures. Many late-onset medical conditions might be avoided by finding a low-cost way to ensure that what we feed our plants is not toxic to us. I have written on this subject in this article: https://www.futurebeacon.com/nutrients.htm Can microbiology be of assistance in this effort? Thank you for your help. James Adrian jim@futurebeacon.com https://www.futurebeacon.com/jamesadrian.htm

Is it generally recognized that eating proteins does nothing good for us until we hydrolyze those proteins? People are sometimes "allergic" to foods and sometimes get sick - I think from the proteins. The worst case I can think of is the human equivalent of Mad Cow disease. It seems possible that proteins are merely a risk that we must take in order to obtain their constituents. Is this the current view? Jim Adrian

EdEarl, Thank you for these suggestions. Some kinds of yeast (not brewer's yeast or bakers yeast) are rumored to contain vitamin B 12, which is not in spirulina. Eventually, I will need to know a mix of microorganisms that will best serve human nutrition. I have seen the term "fermentation" used to mean the cultivation of microorganisms, but its widest usage seems to be the production of products excreted by the microorganism. I am avoiding that. I would like to separate the grown microorganisms into protein, carbohydrates, lipids, vitamins, minerals, and in some cases dietary fiber. Then I would like to hydrolize the protein to obtain amino acids. Amino acids have distinctive and differing tastes. Combinations of them can produce quite a variety. Carbohydrates also provide taste options. I am convinced that if this level of food processing is done on things we grow in water farms or hydroponic farms without including everything in the periodic table in the feed stock, people would become healthier. Vendors of fertilizer and plant food who can deliver feed stock limited in this way will have a competitive advantage. Any chemical or process information helpful to these ends would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for considering this. Jim Adrian

This is my mistake. I don't know how the link was omitted from the final version, but here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body I am still interested in the issue I asked about before: "Is it generally recognized that eating proteins does nothing good for us until we hydrolize those proteins? People are sometimes "alergic" to foods and sometimes get sick - I think from the proteins. The worst case I can think of is the human equivalent of Mad Cow disease. In my mind, it is possible that proteins are merely a risk that we must take in order to obtain their amino acids. Is this the current view?" Jim Adrian

John, This article http://www.futurebeacon.org/nutrients.htm has some references. I intend to separate the nutrients in microorganisms and use them to construct foods of various tastes and textures. I am still interested in the issue I asked about before: "Is it generally recognized that eating proteins does nothing good for us until we hydrolize those proteins? People are sometimes "alergic" to foods and sometimes get sick - I think from the proteins. The worst case I can think of is the human equivalent of Mad Cow disease. In my mind, it is possible that proteins are merely a risk that we must take in order to obtain their amino acids. Is this the current view?" Jim Adrian

EdEarl, Thank you for this very informative link. Spirulina looks like a wonderful choice. My next task is to determine whether it has any dependencies upon elements that are toxic to humans. My searhes for that kind of information have been slow. Is there souce better than random searches for this sort of thing? There is another issue I wish to ask about. Is it generally recognized that eating proteins does nothing good for us until we hydrolize those proteins? People are sometime "alergic" to foods and sometimes get sick - I think from the proteins. The worst case I can think of is the human equivalent of Mad Cow disease. In my mind, it is possible that proteins are merely a risk that we must take in order to obtain their amino acids. Is this the currrent view? Thank you for your help. Jim Adrian Advertising removed by moderator

We eat and drink in order to obtain lipids, carbohydrates, minerals, vitamins, amino acids, water, and dietary fiber. Water farms of artificial sea water or artificial lake water could cultivate microorganism such as photosynthetic plankton (phytoplankton) and many others. A variety of microorganisms could get us all of the kinds of nutrients that we need without the weather risks and with potentially lower expense. Problems include getting things we do not need. For instance, diatoms (a kind of phytoplankton) are dependent upon cadmium for some of their enzymes. Cadmium is toxic to humans. Most people have 61 types of elements in our organs and blood. We only need 28. The water-soluble inorganic compounds we use to grow food, whether in land farms, water farms, or hydroponic farms, are not often restricted to those containing only these 28 elements. The biochemical challenge for water farms cultivating microorganisms is separating the types of nutrients effectively and inexpensively. Some species have coverings that are indigestible. Some have a high ratio of DNA to protein. It would be nice to find a chemical, electrochemical, or other process that separates the seven categories of nutrients in a continuous process. These are my central concerns. I have written a bit more about it here: http://www.futurebeacon.org/nutrients.htm I am new to the forum. Your comments on what is of interest and what the contraints should be are very welcome. Thank you for your help. Jim Adrian contact information removed