sculptor

did you view the graphs as instructed?

OK I may have inadvertently "declared a trend" by parroting the trends declared by the noaa and ncdc So, I'll grant that I declared a 10 year trend for land and ocean and a 7 year trend for land alone. period full stop This is a curious subject in that people's normal tendencies to see more than what is posted seems more eccentric and/or extreme in discussions of the material.

I declared no trend. Just a simple statement that the world was cooling. Which, as re the noaa and the ncdc it is. If you like trends, you can change them in myriad ways on the noaa site. As/re the chart posted for land and ocean, their trend claims -.o3 degrees per decade, and for the chart linked (you may have to reset the trend lines to 2007-2013 ---the link often goes to a default) for land only the trend per century reads -7.24 degrees C per century----or set the trend to decade, and it reads -.72 degrees per decade-------- Ok, it is silly to take a few years and extend the trend out over a decade or a century-----------take it as entertainment. Is/was it any less silly to take 3 decades where CO2 and temperature were rising simultaneously, declare causality, and extend that trend out over a century to 2100? Even cooling you will note that we are still above the 20th century average. IF the land trend over the past 7 years continues out for a decade, we will most likely be back to 20th century average within 3-4 years. Have you considered the effects of the quieting sun?

swansont All I actually posted about this chart: was that it brought me here. Was referencing materials and data not shown. I read the chart quite well, thank you for your concern. here's one from noaa: and a link: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/globe/land/ytd/3/2005-2013?trend=true&trend_base=10&firsttrendyear=2007&lasttrendyear=2013 did you want a CO2 graph as well?

ain't my charts see noaa site and, if you do find the error margins specific to the charts shown and linked please share maybe try the ncdc also? I found "examples" but nothing specific to any one month.

Here's a fun chart showing global cooling: Here's a link to the parent site. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global Fun with charts...change time scale dates and trend line dates. Global land lagged global oceans in beginning to cool by a couple years, but has been accelerating in the past few years, eg: 2007-2013 which exceeds global ocean cooling by orders of magnitude.

Michael#s Crying is good if it relaxes you(rather expected). It seems likely that you are on the road to ridding yourself of the pain you're suffering. For the body, an exercise which moves more muscle groups, like running, walking a rail, walking barefoot over river pebbles, climbing, etc... anything which exercises the balance muscles. this is old stuff, hearkening back to TAOist wei-wu-wei---doing by not doing---roughly work on the muscles, and it calms the mind in the process. (Probably don't work for everybody) I wish you well

Hi guys: Call me sculptor, or call me rod The last chart in post 14 brought me here. The world is getting colder, while CO2 levels continue to rise. ......... Ok It seems that I have 11 more pages to read to get up to speed here. Has mis11 or mis31 from the lake el'gygytgyn data been discussed? Have the latest noaa charts been discussed? It seems that global cooling over the land masses has been accelerating by comparing the charts and trends of 2005-2013 and 2007-2013(year to date) http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global (the links often default to different trend dates--so may need some treaking) Ok Hi again, and I'm off to read the foregoing