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Background Radiation is not how the age of the universe is messured. http://www.space.com/24054-how-old-is-the-universe.html We know the universe as we know it did start between 13.7-13.9 billion years ago. When that was from the end of some other universe or an explosion in parallel dimension, or whatever is not known. Your question/thought seems to both challange the whether the big bang accorded at all and explore what came before it. For me is a lot easier to at each issue individually. Was there a big bang? Once the answer to that question is comfortably understood the next question of what cam before can be addressed.

What is the Harm? For starters In my opinion God is a divisive figure. Culturally all Gods are different. As a result we have varying levels of regional hatred and international bias. Another harmful thing about God is that the overwhelming majority of gods come with a religious structure. Religions often encourage social structures in society that are detrimental. Lastly it trains people to accept all encompassing concepts that impact every area of human life without any evidence or logical thought. It teaches people that a fussy feeling is something in and of itself.

God will never answer any of the questions you raised. God doesn't answer questions. God can be believed in but not interacted with. In my opinion the sooner humans acknowledge that we are on our own and that there isn't a heaven, a god to replenish the earth, and this life is all we have the better. Once we acknowledge those things we as a society can set about answering questions about the way we want to live.

I assume this post is sarcasm? In that case it is brilliant and clearly I should stop posting while I am behind. No use in putting a fuse on something small of a single 9v battery. You are right. At the off chance it is not sarcasm .........this form of protection is for AC motors operating at much high power factors than a 9v DC motor. As perviously stated, perhaps that is your point.

It is good to have faith in God? I suppose God can be a unifying meme. Provide people with a sense of belonging and closeness to others. If I were a coach, politician, CEO, or anyone that needed to motive a mass of people I would probably embrace God as a call to action. On the other hand belief in God has cause a tremendous amount of chaos throughout history. Just as other relics of our past that divided us like racism, s3xism, empires, monopolies and so on have been phased out and universally acknowledged of bad so should God. How many have died in the name of one God and or the other? How many suffer today in God's name? I don't believe in modern society any human should put an intangible belief, based primarily on cultural bias, above their own lives.

Fuses come in various time delays which covers starting current. I agree that a 9v system (assuming it is just a single battery) doesn't need current protection. It just seems like the question as asked is about how to protect the circuit. Circuit protection for a motor is current protection.

As I admitted I messed up the math in my initial post. However a fuse is the way to protect the motor and the way to make sure you are using the right size fuse is to check the current rating of the motor. Wattage (work) is equal to the product of Voltage and amperage. In this case Voltage is constant so amperage will increase when the motor works harder. So a fuse will protect it. http://www.atlantechsolar.com/calculate_volts_amps_watts_conversion.html

Ohm's law states that voltage is equal to current times resistance. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/circuits/Lesson-3/Ohm-s-Law I made the mistake in my origanal post of multiplying rather than dividing. My finally advice was correct however. Motors have amperage ratings. It he or she is looking to protect the circuit a fuse will do it. Fuses blow on amperage not voltage. They are for over current protection which is what it seems like is needed in this case.

Resistors in series simply add resistance to a circuit. The more resistance you have the more current required. So if your concern is about providing to much power to the motor a resistor in series won't improve your situation. Placing resistors in parrallel decrease total resistance http://physics.bu.edu/py106/notes/Circuits.html It seems like to me that you merely want protection? Figure out the what current (amps) your motor is rated for and put a fuse inline with it. That will prevent the motor from overheating because as the temp increases resistance increase which draws more current (amps) and blows the fuse.

The great thing about God is that he/she/it sets the standard for all things in the natural world. God cant be wrong about anything. To imply so just triggers the argument that the human mind just cant see the whole picture the way god does. As a fictional character God has no limit and can not be tied down to anything logical or real.

Highly intelligent by human standards or highly intelligent because I am human? Either way I think I will take that as a compliment. Thank you I don't think anything you are saying is wrong. I wonder if future generations will but that is a far less tangible thing than the pros and cons of various agriculture. I myself am conflicted by what I believe is currently achievable, what is the most sustainable, the most cost effective, and how feel about it all ethically. I suppose religion was dreamt up in part to deal with such internal debates.

I understand what you are saying. You are right. I am trying to have it both ways. I do undertsand the ethical argument and I do feel compelled by it however I don't believe it will ever be a cause for action. The majority isn't moved by it. So I try to avoid allowing it to inform my decision making. Cold hard economics is the only thing that will cause action on change. Ethics won't. So I am dispassionate about it. At some point as our population grows and our resources become further constrained I think there will be a shift. To get from A to B society often lingers in a contradictory state. Before homos3xuals were allowed openly in the military we had the contradictory don't ask don't tell. After we ended slavery we continued to allow Jim Crow in the south. I suppose I am currently in one of those states right now. I see value in being a vegetarian both ethically and enviromentally yet I am not one. I don't eat red meat and limit how much chicken and fish I eat to once a day. That is far as I can go for now. I am still the son of my father. Which is to say a product of my environment.

As humans we are unique in how bloodthirsty we are. No other species on earth kills just for the sake of killing. Other animals kill out of neccessity. I think our ability to kill without any risk factors has desensitized us. Killing out of neccessity is different than people killing just because they rather eat chicken wings at the bar on friday night that nachos with beans and salsa. Even apex predators have specific diets that don't over exploit their prey. We use animal products for a lot more than just food. Dead chickens won't go to waste Growing crops was a huge part of what got us to where we are too. I would also argue that early civilizations didn't eat as much meat as we eat today. They had livestock but not enough of it to afford meat being the center piece of every meal. They used livestock for dairy and to help with their crops. Killing and eating the animal out right was more of something done for special occasions or as animals required being put down. I am not trying to refocus the discussion to beef. It was just a suggestion that steering away from beef might be a place to start. Hopefully other posters will come up with some more suggestions. Someone early mentioned insects. That is an interesting idea. For the record I do not believe we, the U.S., will be vegetarian in my lifetime.

Our system has a lot of problems. Most of our representation is poor. That can be changed though. One of our biggest problems in politics is that people only pay attention to the whitehouse. Many of the same people who lament about D.C. have no idea who their congressman is, Governor is, Mayor is, and so on. There is a whole lot of govt impacting our lives between my kitchen table and the President of the United States. All of these govt officials that we aren't paying attention to like District Judges, state election officers, state Treasury, and etc greatly influence or system. So rather than staying home and not voting I think people need to do the opposite. People need to get more involved especially in local races. Local races is where it is more likely third party candidates can win. Small local races are not as manipulated by outside money.

Ethically it wouldn't change anything. We would still be killing. In term of efficiency and sustainability it would be positive. Other red meats like Goat meat is actually more sustainable. They are browsers not grazers and more of them can be raised per acre than beef. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/goat-meat-the-final-frontier/2011/03/28/AF0p2OjC_story.html I just don't know how we get from where we are in the united states to vegetarian in one adult step. All I can imagine right now are a multitude of baby steps. That is why are brought up steering us away from beef. I believe it would be an improvement. IMO one of societies biggest problems is that we ignore the unsustainable course we are on. We do it with energy, banking, urban sprawl, our diets, with everything. As demand surpasses what crude oil can satisfy we just turn to shale oil and keep on truckin'. As the average amount of indebtedness grows we just change interest rates and brankruptcy laws and keep truckin'. As we fertile land runs out we just build communities in deserts and keep truckin'.I don't think Vegetarianism is the cure to all of humanities problems. I do think it would help. We, society, needs to start thinking about doing things more efficiently rather than always working to finding ways to get more. it is time to start thinking about how we can get by with less.

That is the question. I was hoping you'd guys have the answers. Seriously though is isn't simple. I think the first step is moving people away from eating so much beef. As was pointed out earlier the dairy industry is supplemented by the beef industry. So dairy industries from other sources like Goat, Sheep, Horse, Buffalo, and even Camel would need to grow.

Eugentics has 3 major flaws IMHO: 1 - Bias of the group with the power/ability to implement it. Throughout history we have persecuted various types of people. Being Gay, black, Jewish, Irish, and etc are all things previous generations would've bias against. Implementation would always be a matter of the prevailing zeitgeist. Only in reflections from future generations is it ever known which zeitgeists endured and have value. 2 - How is intelligence tested? Studies have shown IQ tests are limited. A more thoroughly educated person is more familiar with the format and normally performs better. How do you test a persons capacity to learn though? How do you test someone's ability to invent or think of something new? If the goal is to improve the human mind shouldn't potential be more important than displays of cultivated knowledge? I just don't see how we'd messure the difference. 3 - evolution needs randomness. Survival of the fitness isn't intelligence or advances adaptaition. It is about environment. Many successful species have gone extinct. Whether it was a new disease none of them were lucky enough to have a mutation to be immune to or a volcano erupting and devastating an ecosystem they relied on. Diversity is a key to long term survival. We can't predict which mutations will be best when something unplanned for happens. Which also can't predict whose offspring will have a new useful mutation.

Interesting link. I give my spent grain to a co-worker who has chickens. Haven't read up on any specific figures but I imagine the growing taste for craft beer is greatly increasing demand for malted grain which also increases the amount of spent grains to be disposed of.

I live in Southern California and there are craft breweries all over here too. I also homebrew. I went through a long IPA stage but currently find myself drinking a lot of Triple Belgian ale. Thank god you didn't counter, for argument sake, that Bud, PBR, Miller, etc were great beers, lol. I am not sure I would've been able to constrain my response.

You continue to mix vegetarians with vegans in an attempt to make your b12 argument stick. This thread asks about vegetarians not vegans. So your "why vegans sucks" link does not counter any of my points. As I already posted, with links, the most common types of vegetarians do consume dairy products and eggs. So b12 is not an issue. As for saying 500 million people in India and 50 million people China proves a vegetarian diet can be safe.......I have no idea what you consider inaccurate about that? I did not say it proves a vegetarian diet is superior. No degree was given. I believe "safe" is the oppropriate word. Perhaps our definition of the safe within the context used is different? You said "I agree that the factual parts of the report are evidence that current meat production, particularly beef, is on shaky ground as far as sustainability and environmental degradation." well that is the crux of this thread IMO. The rest is just what to do about it and that is entirely a matter of opinion regardless of which facts either side provides. So we basically agree on what the current state of affairs are and disagree about how society should handle it moving forward. Bringing up my beer reference made me chuckle. I like that. Like I said before you latch on to every comment whether it is to the point being discussed or not. That isn't a bad thing. "Standard American lagers are knows as “American Adjunct Lagers”. This means these are lagers that are brewed with adjuncts. Adjuncts are any non-malted grain, like rice or corn. This means that rather than using 100% malt, large breweries will cut the malt with corn or rice (or both). This will dull the flavour, lighten the colour, and barely affect the alcohol level. Thus, the large breweries can still brew a 5% alc./vol. beer, but at a lower cost. Corn and rice are less expensive than malt, so it’s an attractive cost-cutter for breweries. In addition, the beer will now appeal to the masses — if drank cold enough, the beer will lose almost all of its flavour, and go down like water." http://thehoppyending.wordpress.com/the-craft-beer-difference/

Other than calling the third largest agricultural state the second largest what "claims" have I made that isn't true? There are facts a person uses to highlight a truth and then there are board general statements meant to help frame perspective. I have provided links for everthing I have posted that highlighted a truth. You have latched on to general statements meant to frame perspective or provide context in an attempt to delegitimize ideas you do not agree with. The big picture here isn't whether or not Texas is the second or third largest agricultural states. Thus far it seems the most you have contributed to this discussion is to give a review of what others have posted. I don't see how that is useful. If your complaints culminated is an alternative there would definately be value in that.

Desalinization is another thing I think with be considerably more common in the future. It comes with a higher price tag though because of the energy required which will impact the agricultural industry. It will also impact the energy industry as a whole because desalinization will become yet another market requiring huge amounts of energy.You are right that people don't starve because there isn't enough food. IMO people starving is absolutely an economic issue. Hydrophobic gardening I'll hopefully become more prevalent and allow for my food to be grown locally and help reduce the transportation cost of shipping food.

I don't believe there is a linear connection between ability and opportunity. Lots of smart people working as unskilled labor. Just because a person has a talent doesn't mean the environment they are born into will allow for them to excell with that talent. My guess is that there are great musicians working in construction and great mathematicians cleaning toilets.

you referred to the water issue as a strawman. I posted that bit about Texas to show that water is impacting cattle production in the states I referenced. Far as refferring to Texas as the second largest agricultural state.....you got me. Texas is not #2, it is #3. I don't see how that changes my point about water though.

Safe and healthy are not the same thing. It was a broad remark. I just feel too much is being made of b12. There are ways to get b12 without the status qou. The united states consumes 3 times more meat than the global average. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3045642/Humans are omnivores. However many of the meats we consume would make us sick if we tried to eat them uncooked. I think consuming eggs, fish, and insects along with plants better reflects the type of foods humans actually evolved eating than does pork chops or buffalo wings. And cars aren't the only things that use fuel so I guess cafe standards are a strawman too? There are no silver bullets that can fix our issues of sustainability. "Ongoing drought conditions have also reduced the supply of cattle in Texas, the nation's largest state for beef production, contributing 6.3 billion pounds in 2012, 15 percent of the national total, Texas Department of Agriculture Spokesman Bryan Black said. Some cattlemen have begun to rebuild their herd, primarily in East Texas, where drought conditions have subsided "Since January 2011, the total number of cattle and calves in Texas has declined by 2.4 million head to 10.9 million head," Black said. Beef cow numbers have dropped by 20 percent over the same period to 4.35 million head." http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/cattle-ranchers-forced-to-cull/26595624