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I am not sure what in your point is? I already went over the whole article for you qoutinng full portions in order. I think that is more than enough. What you have highlighted isn't in full context or point of the article. The article has out lived it's usefulness. My initial point was centered around the Demographical breakdown and I referenced more than just the one article. I honestly don't know what you are attempting to dispute. The way Men, Women, Whites, Blacks, and Latinos voted is nearly indentical. That is indisputable and what I posted the numbers to show. Those broad strokes are incredibly consistent and that is undeniable. While Trump continues to brag about the Senate and some Progressive lament that things didn't go better I think it is working noting that Democratic candidates won more support across board in every type of race Tuesday night be it House, Senate, or Governors mansion.

The following is how the article opens: Then the article covers which exit polls it is analyzing and states how different racial demos voted. It follows by then looking at whether or not younger people turned out in greater numbers as was predicted: The article then asks a few rhetorical questions about the relative value of various predictions vs reality relating to gender education level and etc and concludes: The article then goes into various things could've been different which is the part you quoted. However as quoted above no specific value is given to those numbers. It is ambiguous. Demos within demos and not the larger component groups. It follows up those numbers with: The article concludes stating that it is something to ponder in 2020. The main demographics didn't change which is why the article states "the best preliminary indicator we have of the shape of the 2014 and 2018 electorates, doesn’t show as much change as you might expect." in its opening. Whites, Blacks, Latinos, and Women voted almost identical. Perhaps a specific subgroup like Black female college educated protestants over the age of 65 voted marginally different but how does one quantify the value of that? How would a politician be able to pinpoint such a demo within a demo to target? It is far easier to understand how one is doing Black Females at large and campaign accordingly. *this article is not the be all end all. I only went through it bit by bit because you questioned it I read it. At this point the entire article has been quoted.

The majority of Republicans live in two states as well, TX and FL. I am not implying mob rule but merely more accurate representation in our representative democracy. Different result because 30 million less people voted. Not because any particular demo voted differently. If you are saying you believe various issue influence turnout I agree. If you are saying various issue influence the way one votes assuming they vote I disagree.

Democrats Senators represent 40 million more people than Republican Senators yet Democrat are in the minority. In my opinion that is not how democracy should work nor it it what the Constitution intended.

I do not understand what in the link you are referencing. The link is literally about the fact that it was not different. From the opening of the article: More over the result by group was basically indentical to 2016 yet neither Clinton or Trump were on the ballot and all the political issues have changed appreciably. If you are claiming the "moderate middle" is the key what numbers do you have to support it? By group everyone voted the same as last time. The Edison survey (previously linked) goes into to great detail breaking voters down by age, gender, race, education, religion, martial status, income, and etc. There were no substantial changes or surprises on Tuesday. That is statistically demonstratable. You seem married to an idea and aren't soberly looking at the cold dry numbers. I understand why one would feel differently. All over the media pundits are weighing in with their take on why voters did X, Y, Z. It creates a palpable sense that these matters are considerably more fluid than they actually are. The media is in the ratings business and not the accurate information business. Pundits say what they say for the sake of their audience. They play up on peoples bias's, desires, fears, hopes, and misconceptions.

"The white makeup of the electorate was 75 percent in 2014 and 72 percent this year, though the modest difference is mostly attributable to demographic change rather than some sort of voter mobilization effort. African-Americans formed 11 percent of the electorate in 2014 and 12 percent in 2018, another modest change. Latinos are a rapidly rising share of the population, so it’s not too surprising that they grew from 8 percent to 11 percent (they were only 9 percent, by the way, in the NORC exit polls)" Not only did all the same groups show up in the same numbers but if you look at the Edison exit survey they more or less identical to 2016 overall. White - 16' 57% Trump / 18' 54% Republican Black - 16' 08% Trump / 18' 09% Republican Latino - 16' 28% Trump / 18' 29% Republican Woman - 16' 41% Trump / 18' 40% Republican 2018 Numbers 2016 Numbers Considering that Trump wasn't on the ballot this past Tuesday and voters all over the nation had to make individual decisions about individual candidates which varied locality by locality the outcome was shockingly similar. I already know the stats and expect them yet am always still a little surprise by how identical they are every time. Mueller, Kavanaugh, Migrant family separations, tax cuts, and etc doesn't seems to have impacted anything. People vote party line regardless and the lines were drawn a long time ago.

Another stat I would encourage you to consider is the total number of votes cast for Senate candidates. Democratic Senate Candidates received 44 million votes while Republican candidates received 33 million votes. In the media much is being made of the fact Democrats lost a Senate seat and Republicans are claiming victory but clearly the will of the nation was largely with Democrats. Republicans had a built in systematic advantage which prevented from losing. In total votes for Democratic senate candidate vs Republican Senate candidates Democrat won 57% to 43%. This disparity in national desire vs election outcome is one of the reasons why people like Holder and Booker (the "mob" as you call it) encourage people to be more aggressive. From Trump losing the popular vote in 2016 to Republicans gaining seats on Tuesday despite a deficit in voter support the U.S. is presently ran by people the majority do not support and do not want in office.

Which races specifically are you talking about? Depending on the race just 10,000 can be a fraction of voters or a sizable number of voters. I would need to know which ones you have in mind to render an opinion. Edit - Who voted doesn't appear to have changed and the result was broadly as expected. Consider the follow:

As predicted Trump is claiming victory and the media is debating it. Session was fire today. Dems won the House and Republicans held the Senate. Democrats won at least 4 million more votes and that number is still rising. People will continue to spin this a lot of different ways but ultimately nothing particularly surprising has happened.

The acting AG previously criticized the Mueller investigation in a published OP-ed. Unless he is willing to get indicted for Trump he'd be smart to recuse himself.

Looks like Nelson in FL and Abrams aren't conceding yet. This is excellent news in my opinion and makes me very happy. I am sick and tired of Democrats just rolling over even when Races are still within a rounding errors. Democrats too often appear more concerned with potentially bad optics than they are with fighting to win. If the shoes were on the other foot Republicans absolutely would demand recounts. It sickens me we didn't get real ballot recounts in 2016.

No, now that Democrats have the House they can conduct hearings and launch investigations of their own if Trump moves against the Mueller investigation.

Sessions won't be the last between now and New Years. Nielsen, Mattis, Kelly, Sanders, Rosenstein, and mnuchin are all on the chopping block. I will be surprised if most aren't gone shortly.

Democrats appeared to have had a significant advantage in voter support last night. The lack of wins in key races were a reflection of our system more so than popular support.

I disagree. Democrats were never projected to win the Senate. They picked up House seats and Governor mansions last night. The predictions for all this stuff far predates the Kavanaugh stuff. I think it is an error to assume recent news changed hearts and minds. Two Republicans who has been criminally indicted still won last night. People in the U.S. are extremely partisan and vote party almost no matter what. Because you appear to accept my suggestion that Republicans stole at least 2 senate elections last night (O'Rouke and Nelson). Meaning in terms of vote enthusiasm and turnout Republicans legitimately gain zero Senate seats.

Democrats were never projected to win the Senate. Democrats did pickup an additional 7 Governor's mansions which is good in my opinion. This isn't accurate. They currently have picked up 28 (per FiveThirtyEight) and 16 races have yet to be called with Republicans only favored to win 1 of the remaining races. Democrats will have picked up a number of seats on the mid 30's when all in said and done. So they met the median forecast. They didn't under perform as you appear to be suggesting. We don't have the total numbers yet. I suspect in total votes Democratic candidates got at least 6 million more votes last night. Only time will tell last night. For me the Senate was never in the cards. Democrats had too many seats to protect. Meanwhile I think there is a very real chance Republican stole the seats in TX and FL.

I don't get it either. Democrats don't appear to know how to take a win. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million and ran around bragging what a massive victory his win was back in 2016. Now Republicans have lost control of the House yet Democrats seem prepared to let Trump take a victory lap because Republicans didn't also lose the Senate. It is comical. Democrats should be touting their gains in the House this morning threatening Trump's agenda with progressive proposals to healthcare, immigration, tax reform, and etc while also raising the specter of resolutions t protect the Mueller investigation and so. Democrats don't seems to know how to seize the moment and influence the narrative. They won last night. They need to start acting like it.

Why are you crediting Trump for that were you under the impression Democrats would win the Senate? FiveThirtyEight, which you have cited in the past, have had the chances of Democrats winning the seat in the teens. Democrats did well last night. Democrats have been favored to win the House and Republicans favored to kept the Senate all year. Things went as expected. When all the fail results are in Republicans will have lost over 30 house seats (and control of the house) and lost at least 7 Governor mansions. I personally don't trust the overcomes in Florida,Texas, of GA as I read of too many issues in those states. Florida in particular is always a mess on election day. It is criminal in my opinion. The fact Florida is marred by long lines, overwhelmed polling sites, voter confusion, and machine errors every election with votes often coming down to just a single percentage point or two is inexcusable. Both Nelson and Gullium lost by less than a single percentage point meanwhile voting problems were reported all over the state. In TX and GA Cruz and Kemp similarly have razor thin margins as reports of errors come in. Sadly these things are too be expected in those states.

Things appear to have gone as most analyst projected Democrats won the house and Republicans kept the Senate. No big surprises. There were 33 Senate seats up for election and 23 Dem, 2 Independent, and 8 Republican. Democrats always had a mountain to climb just to avoid heavy Senate losses. In the house Democrats needed to pick up at least 25 seats and as of this morning they have picked up 27 with 16 races yet to have been called. It will be interesting to see the final numbers as they come out in a month or two. Despite failing to win the Senate Democratic candidates for Senate probably got several million more votes.

I down voted you for refusing to summarize your video (a rule violation) and being flippant about the plight of North Koreans.

You may consider snarkiness cute but it is actually disrespectful to people living in North Korea. They suffer under a brutal regime and if one criticizes Kim Jung-un it could result in the death of not only themselves but their families. Because of that fact it is not possible to discern how people in North Korea feel about their govt. You understand this but are still choosing to use their plight sarcastically for a cheap comeback. It is ugly behavior and fails to address the issues raised you are attempting a respond to. I provided real information and you agree Republicans have gerrymandered the system. Point proved. I never stated to what degree. It varies by locality. Ultimately there isn't an acceptable degree so you can stop attempting to frame it in more palatable light. More ugly behavior.

Than I guess the only thing left to debate is why you won't give up watching both.

That specific regard being Political bias?

I take no issue with the idea that CNN is bad from a information, journalistic, or even entertainment perspective. My issue is with an implication that they are in the tank or on side of Democrats akin to the way FoxNews is for Republicans. In that regard there is no comparison. Democrats do not direct their supporters to watch CNN and CNN do not direct their audience to vote for Democrats as Republicans and FoxNews do.