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You are right that every person of a particular age to a person can't be lumped together but I think you are overstating the point. There is a lot of correlation between age and the way political news is consumed and understood. When we look at the way Cambridge Analytica focused fake news age was key factor along with gender, race, geographic location, and etc. Foxnews, drudge report, breitbart, info wars, and etc market themselves towards audiences based things like age. There is an average age for every audience. Tv and radio ratings are broken down by age groups. Millennials (born 81'-96) are 60% Democrat to just 30% Republican. Gen X (65'-80' my generation') is closer to 50/50, and it moves to right from their through baby boomer and the silent generation. Trump's base isn't young. When Trump attacks Google he isn't speaking to young people. Trumps claim against Google came from a headline ran by the Drudge Report here . Trump and Alex Jones are speaking to a specific audience when they attack the internet as politically bias. That targeted audience isn't a young one.

I think part of the problem is that many people go into law enforcement specifically for excitement. Tv shows and movies show the lifestyle as high speed. Various apparel brands market themselves as tactical and that image has a following. Some people are drawn to that image and imagine themselves as inside an episode of a Police drama. Of course the reality is that police spend most their day writing reports and sitting in court. I think police shootings in the U.S. are self fulfilling prophecies. That a lot of police officers became police officers with the belief they would eventually shoot someone and re-enforce the idea as part of a daily mantra. If you leave the house everyday thinking "today might be the day I have to kill or be killed" it takes a toll. Being a police officer can be dangerous but there is a fine line between caution and obsession and I think too many police officers have crossed it.

Ben Carson would test better on a biology exam than either of us, so what. People can know lots of facts yet still have beliefs and behaviors contrary to those facts. The way one interacts with, preceives, and emotionally responds to online information isn't necessarily driven by their knowledge. I went with 45 because the internet wasn't publicly accessable till 94'. So if one graduated high school prior to 94' they grew up, through to adulthood, without the internet. I bought my first computer, as an adult, in 1997. I didn't have internet in my home until about 03' give or take a year. I held out getting internet because I viewed it as an expensive luxury, lol. My wife is a several years younger than I am. She had the internet through high school and in home her whole adult life. Early in our relationship following a move and job change I once suggested not getting the internet in home to save money and she basically laughed in face.

The doesn't read as being anymore something you can substantiate than what I posted.

Washington lobbyist W. Samuel Patten pleaded guilty Friday to acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist, and admitted to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and funneling a Ukrainian oligarch's money to Donald Trump's Presidential Inaugural Committee. Patten's plea and cooperation agreementis connected to special counsel Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the election and coordination with the Trump campaign -- even apparently reaching into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's inner circle in Ukraine. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/w-samuel-patten-plea-russia-ukraine/index.html

Is there still any question regarding whether or not Trump has broken the law? Obstruction of Justice is already a slam dunk just based on what Trump has already admitted in interviews and pronounced in tweets.

I don't recall any demands for silence prior months prior to the 2016 election when it was Clinton under investigation....hahaha The irony that Republicans are complaining that an investigation into the swaying of an election might sway an election is thick. People from Trump's campaign have already be found or pled guilt. It is a FACT at this point that Trump's campaign broke the law. In what perverse universe should prosecutor be worried about protecting the image of guilt people?

It is strange to me the way Conservative voters laud independence and individual determination yet are a party led by a bunch of legacy rich kids. Trump and Romney sell themselves as self made and treat the elitist levels wealth they were born into as a coincidence. They pulled themselves up by their own boot straps. Bush was a daddies boy who attended boarding school in Massachusetts and got into Yale with sub par grades yet sold himself off as a salt of the earth Texan rancher. They are all the opposite of self made. Meanwhile both Obama and Clinton grew up without fathers in small humble households, excelled academically, and went on to become extremely successful. They are literally self made yet Conservatives hate their guts.

Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace, Richard Nixon, Dick Cheney, David Duke, and so on are considered pariahs by history. Yet all held elected office at one time and were given all due respect of their office. I think the McCain family understand that Trump and Palin will be viewed by history as pariahs. Best to keep them away. John McCain comes from what is widely viewed as one of the U.S.'s greatest families. In the U.S. we do not have royalty as does the U.K., Spain, and others but we do have specific families which maintain high status over generations like the The Kennedy's and Rockefeller's. Both McCain's Father and Grandfather were 4 star Admirals and led major U.S. war campaigns and were responsible for strategies in WW1, WW2, and Vietnam. They are among the most highly decorated Naval officer ever with numerous dedications (street names, building names, policy references, etc) throughout the Navy. Both his father and Grandfather were named John McCain (Sr. & Jr). So the family has a legacy they are extremely proud of and a strong sense of history. So I completely understand why the McCain family doesn't want an ugly blight on history like Trump at the funeral.

McCain wasn't true to his beliefs on Torture, Immigration, Afghanistan, Syria, Spending, and etc. McCain was better than most Republicans, perhaps all current Republicans, when it came to being honest but Republicans has set a very low bar. Had McCain truly stuck to his beliefs he wouldn't have let far right conservatives push Palin on him, campaigned for Bush in 2004 despite acknowledging the swift boating of fellow war hero John Kerry was terrible, campaigned for Bush as Superpac money flooded the scene in direct contrast to his campaign finance positions, he wouldn't have gone silent on Assad after spending years publicly criticizing Obama for not doing more to remove him, and on and on. Graded on a curve against other members of his party McCain A+. Graded against politicians overall he was a C+ about being true to his beliefs and compromise. C+ is really good for the current state of the Republican party which is one of the reason McCain is being so thoroughly celebrated.

This was sort of what I referred to in my initial post. He was too loyal a soldier and didn't catch on he was fighting for the wrong side. Today as people like Joe Biden provide the most heartfelt goodbyes rather than from those McCain campaigned and vited with I suspect much would be different if he could do it all again. Hey, that's life though. I would do a lot of things different if I could go back.

Not King alone. King is popluar culturals preffered face of Civil rights because his message was the most passive. It would be difficult for a grad teacher in Nebraska or Idaho to explain the positions of people like Malcom X, Marcus Garvey, Huey Newton, Elijah Muhammad, etc to grade schoolers. Martin Luther King was a great man but the Civil Rights movement did not have a singular Messiah or singular voice. It is just taught that way. Harmonious for the majority fits in my personal experience. Yes there are still bigots but even in countries with zero diversity people find excuses for hate. In my opinion the overwhelming major of white and blacks in the U.S. get along. People love them some Kendrick Lamar and they love them some Adel. You don't think there is mutal benefit in Israel and the Palistinians getting along?

No, this isn't that. You have been provided very real world examples. Despite slavery & segregation Blacks have broadly forgave Whites and the overwhelming majority of both (Blacks and Whites) live harmoniously together in the U.S.. Likewise the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we (USA) bomb 2 atomic bombs on them yet today U.S. and Japan are strong allies. Nations and people can forgive and move forward. It has happened throughout history all over the world.

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Mississippi is a State and it's laws and people killed a lot of Black people in the past. Civil rights movement found a way to move past it. Even with some factions promoting violence.

If my mother had been murdered and her murderer was dead I certainly wouldn't continue on hating the murderers extended family members a decade on. Israel as a nation is fairly secular like most other Western Democratic nations. I don't think thier religion (Jewish/Muslim) alone is the problem. Lots of external forces with their on concepts of history and indentity put pressure on the situation. I think a big step forward in the peace procress would be for Christians to butt out, for example.

Right, nearly 50% of the people in Afghanistan are under 15yrs and the median age of the whole country is just 18yrs of age yet 9/11 is still mentioned regular by Politicians when discussing Afghanistan and we (USA) still hve tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan. Meanwhile the majority of the the entire population of the Afghanistan wasn't even alive when 9/11 happen. At some point people have to stop living in the past. If the world can forgive Germany and both the U.S. and Japan can forgive each other I see no reason why Israel and the Palestinians can't as well.

Right, power and responsibility should have some relationship.

Quality of information has always been an issue. I don't think there was really ever a time when information was presented truest as it could be. Books are full of as much propaganda and inaccuracies as are things on the internet today. Over the years I have come to realize that everything I think I know about history is just a loose timeline of events and little else. Unfortunately society is moved by popular understandings and not facts. So while it is important to strive to know the truth it is also useful to know what everyone else is thinking. So thing like op-eds can be useful. Like you said though there must be an investment. Google, YouTube, Twitter, and etc algorithms does its best to push what people will click on. The algorithms aren't passing judgement the on quality of the source. As Alex Jones has been taken to court for his lies YouTube and Twitter have banned him to shield themselves from liability. Alex Jones can still be found on the internet by those who want to hear what he is saying. I see no freedom of speech issue there. As for Google and Facebook one only needs to look at what has gone on with Russia. Facebook in particular has had a rough year as the value of the company has swung up and down by tens of billions of dollars over data and privacy concerns. Companies have no choice but to start doing a better job discerning between whats real and whats fake if they are to continue to be success. This will seem ageist but I think part of the problem is that people above the age of 45 don't understand how the internet works. They grew up with well regulated media, TV and Radio, where one couldn't knowingly make false claims without being fined or sued. I get the impression older people think many of the same regulations apply to the internet. That if they see a video online of someone claiming something that on some level the claim must be true or else to poster of the video could be sued. Of course that isn't the case. The poster of a video could be anonymous and the content pure B.S. made to get as many views as possible. Views and clicks being the end goal is another concept I think older people struggle with. They grew up thinking of TV marketing in simple terms. They saw ratings and commercials as one for one exchange. They weren't considering the manner in which data collected on which gender and age group watched what was being used and struggle to understand how data is used online. They view commercials as advertising and content as real rather than knowing that everything (the content and ads) is advertisement. In my opinion it is why the Russia interference in 2016 isn't a bigger deal. People simply don't understand it. They is an apathetic view that the ads targeted to individuals don't matter because most people ignore ads. They don't understand that it was the news articles and content itself they were consuming that was created by Russia. Not just ads. That what they were being told, Clinton has slaves in a Pizza shop, was not true.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the inconvenience of retyping usernames and passwords . It is its natural manure,” - Thomas Jefferson

The U.S. has done more good around the world than has Mexico but that doesn't mean much to a specific discussion about U.S. Mexico relations and immigration. In my opinion it is out of respect for Israel that many of us in this discussion expect better from them. Just as my fellow countrymen here in the States are better than a stupid wall on the southern boarder and separating families so too are Israelis better than expanded settlements. Simply picking favorites between Israel and Palestinians or identifying one as better than the other accomplishes very little. The U.S. is a safer, more tolerant, and generous country than is Mexico but that doesn't mean we get to treat Mexicans like trash.

Alex Jones has his own website, radio show, is a published author, and etc. He is being allowed to say what he wants. YouTube, Twitter, and etc are merely platforms Alex Jones was using (monetizing) in additions to the others he still has. Alex Jones is upset because he he is losing the revenue streams. His freedom of speech is totally intact. Another step is to use the filters provided and search via key words for the specific things one wants rather than just follow what's trending or viewing what's recommended. For example don't stay synced to all your accounts. If your logged in to Chrome and it is synced to your Youtube and Facebook accounts it tracks your activity which influences what ads you see and what content is recommended to you. Just sign out of everything you aren't using and don't need to be signed in for is one small step. Also one should regularly clean their disc of cookies and clear out history.

@Phi for All I agree with your point but don't feel what has happened with Alex Jones is analogous to journalism and equal time. YouTube, Twitter, Tumbrl, and etc are not news networks or edited journalism of any kind. Their "airtime" is limitless and their audience views it totally al la carte applying the filters of their own choosing. Alex Jones was taken off due to legal concerns and not as a judgement on his political positions.

@rangerxI don't even see it as a free speech issue. Jones has his own website, radio show, had published a couple books, and etc. I find the notion that Alex Jones is being denied free speech ridiculous. Not being allowed carte blanche access on every platform of choice one wants is an assault on freedom to speech.

I agree but was a bit dismayed, not surprised, that Bill Maher took the position that Alex Jones was being denied his right to speech. So it isn't purely "rightwingers" saying it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqVYjxUh24