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I don't think there's anything wrong with your syntax... You could try variatons of http://www.dievo.org or http://www.dievo.org (that's what worked for me) or dievo.org - just make sure your "host" field matches later on (you'll get there eventually, that's actually a hint if you think about it). I use the telnet program CRT. I too have XP, so it should work with your computer as well, but I don't have a link. It's free, though - google for CRT telnet download or some such thing and it should appear. Are you logged in as admin? That might also affect the telnet'ing. You're going about this the right way, just play with it until it works.

I tried this twice and had it. If you think about it, 1 and 8 only have to worry about being next to 1 nuber each, so put them in the middle. All the rest, just put somewhere, going down starting with 7 and up starting with 2 (at the same time), making sure none touch. Or at least, that's how I did it. This gave me [u] | |[/u][u]4|6| |[/u][u] |7|1|8|2| | |3|5| |[/u]

How big is the chipset for the XBOX, excluding the accesories (heatsinc/fan, DVD drive, etx - but video card included)?

Well then, that answers my question - I was considering experimenting with one, and was wondering if this would kill things. Apparently not. Thanks for the help.

I was referring to LOGIC in order to help him with level nine, but... thanks for the information? For those of you who have completed level nine, can't you see the irony/humor in that statement?

First, does a computer chip require an atmosphere to run? In other words, it can run in a vacuum, right? Second, I know there is an upper limit to acceptable temperatures for chips to run correctly in (hence heatsincs and fans in computers), but is there a lower limit?

What's your OS?

I read it a lot closer to Demosthenes' way then yours, Rhedd, but it was a little of both. Then again, I haven't read that part of the series in like 5 or 6 years, which is a long time when you're still in high school.

GRRRAH. I finally got level 9 on apprentice. I was doing the right thing the whole time, I was just having random syntax errors and not using telnet correctly. stupid minor details :-D

At first, it's just plug and chug. But as soon as the "betweenthem" part made itself clear (thanks to Phi), you could see "iei" (coded) next to "teen" (uncoded). The only word in the english language (at least to the best of my knowledge) that goes letter1,letter2,letter1,t,e,e,n, is "fifteen." Make sense?

FD9, check out the link I gave you. Try a few. It gives you word spaces, but the basic concept is the same - if you have no idea whatsoever, look at how often words come up and try letters.

There's a new book out (or soon to be) in the sister series about Bean. I think it's called Shadow Games. Go to Card's website for more info. That is, unless I'm hallucinating.

Well, liquid nitrogen is normally in flasks, filled to the brim with LN2 such that there is no way for it to become a gas in the flask - there's no room for the liquid to expand into a gas. If you let it out into an open environment through an expansion valve at atmospheric pressure, it will boil. But it will stay at it's atmospheric boiling point (about 77K, I believe) until it boils - meaning that the liquid is at 77k as soon as you let it out of the tank. I think that's how it works, at least. In other words, I think it stays at that temperature pretty much indefinitely, until it boils. http://home.howstuffworks.com/refrigerator.htm has a pretty good description of the refrigeration process. I assume they fill the flasks (tanks) with nitrogen at cryrogenic temps at atmospheric pressure.

Minds work pretty well . If you have flash and want to try some true cryptograms (I spose it helps to know the definition of one, you should figure it out quick just looking at the puzzles) go to http://teppo.tv/cryptogram/ . The only difference is they use numbers instead of letters.

I had no idea any of this was so cheap! Awesome.

Well yes, but I had heard of someone doing it, which was why I was wondering. Which brings me back to my original problem - being stuck.

I noticed that too, and calculate was misspelled as well. It was driving me nuts. I got it to "A b o s i t i g e f i g e c o m n o m b c h a r s i s f i g e centimeters from a n e s t i g e fifteen c o m n o m b c h a r s e c a n c t n a t e t h e force of a t t r t ction between them" and was starting to go nuts with the "a t t r t ction " thing. Perhaps those spaces really were supposed to be there? There were at least 2, and I thought I might have counted 3. Just a thought. Good job, Phi!

Wouldn't happen to have any other letters? I think "fifteen" is in there. If you replace letters so that you get between them at the end, then you are left with a spot with "teen" (translated/transposed) and "iei" unchanged. That would mean i=f and e=i, but that seems to screw up other things. Also, it might be inbetween them.

Nevermind, I think we're both misunderstanding each other, and it's a moot point, because it works without that entire idea.

No, I mean perhaps one of the letters they used stands for a space. As in, every Z means a space, just like every A could be a Z. q and u, perhaps?

Maybe one of the characters is a space.

so as soon as you get to a repeat letter, it screws up the progression, right? I think i know what you mean now, I know what substitution is, but I'm a bit of a visual learner, or a do-it-myself-but-can't-explain-to-others kinda person, so I just didn't... see.

I'm not sure I quite know what you mean...

Note also that there are no L's in the entire thing.

I'm assuming he means the thread starter. If you look at the beginning part, it goes like this: abcdefeghijghkcmncopkqars This immediately caught my eye. The underlined part is the english alphabet, in the correct order, with the exception of the letter L. How much of a coincidence could it be that it starts with a,b,c,d,e,f,...,g,h,i,j,...,k,C,m,n,...,o,p,...,q,...,r,s... That's about where it stops, but just the progression of letters caught my eye. That would make me think C is L.