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swansont : Can you explain your point.

Well, I did write a reply and somehow it didn't go through gue to my Computer glitch. I will try to write it again here : Though they are called identical twins the point is that no two humans can ever be identical- twins or not. Though the DNAs of both are almost identical - a replication of the same DNA, no replication can ever be exactly Identical. Therefore, nothing separated by Space can ever be IDENTICAL and therefore Everything has to be Unique ! What we call Identical are almost SAME , EQUAL to one another in most aspects and even can not be differentiated at all by testing. Still as much as we can argue about it, when we can recognize two Entities as different from each other they are more than likely to have some Variation in their characteristics. In the case of DNA etc there is always a constant Evolution taking place due to this differences as the Life Organisms CAN NOT REPLICATE IDENTICALLY !! I am slowly getting SOLD into this THOUGHT which I got that EVERYTHING IS UNIQUE !!! >>>>>>> PS : Oh OK ; what I wrote earlier has also appeared. It must be another Comment which went missing

tar : 12 identical sections of the Sphere as you have indicated with 12 Squares drawn on the Spherical surface and if cut off at the 14 Points of intersections [6 intersections having 4 lines meeting and 8 intersections having 3 lines meeting] results in 12 rhombus shapes of the Polyhedron left. This is precisely the Polyhedron which will be created by BOXING THE CUBE as I mentioned elsewhere. That is , planes are attached so as to create a 4 lined ROOFS on each of the 6 Faces of the Cube in a SYMMETRICAL WAY. But alas it will have to retain the eight 3 lined Corners of the parent Cube though with flatter non- 90 Deg Roof Angles lines rotated from the Original Cube. Because of this eight intersections have 3 lines meeting points [just like the cube's corners. Along with these 8 six more newly erected 4 lined corners one on top of each face of the Cube adds up to 14 Corners / Intersections. Because of these 3 line / 4 line corners [each rhombus having 2 four lined corners and 2 three lined corners] we have Rhombus shapes and not Squares on the Polyhedron. I need to confirm what should be their Angles. Therefore, Boxing a Tetrahedron Symmetrically produces a perfect Cube Boxing a Cube Symmetrically produces a 12 faced Polyhedron with equal Rhombus faces. If we bloat up each Polyhedron to Spherical Surfaces we have 4 Triangles drawn on the Sphere for tetrahedron, 6 Squares drawn for Cube and 12 Squares drawn for this 12 faced Rhombus hedron. Splitting each square face of the Cubic bloat-up will produce 24 faced Polyhedron. Strangely, there is no way of producing 8 equal Square faces on the Sphere, Using 2 tetrahedrons in a mirror tilt may produce 8 equidistant points on the surface of the Sphere but connecting them may again result in Triangular shapes and not squares. Regards

Hi, Yes Good Point ! Identical Twins may share the exact DNA at the base of their Origin but each of the Twin is different from the other and in NO WAY IDENTICAL in ALL RESPECTS AND ASPECTS ! Also. as proposed all the Cells and Genes created from this base DNA can and should have a difference from any other Person, Gene or DNA. Albeit minutely paving way to CONSTANT EVOLUTION !!

Yes,Equality is a practical decision ! All Citizens are Equal, All Members are Equal etc. Mathematically Yes !! 1 = 1 Yes that is the Mathematical meaning. But Practically : Which One is Equal to which another One is the Question. Because, No One is IDENTICAL to another One !!!

I will give another online game which could be interesting and challenging ! The game is perhaps quite known as we have been playing it in family circles for years. Even children can play it while it will challenge adults as well. I designate a word - a four letter verb - and I being the author is expected to be fair and not manipulate that word at my end once the game starts. The example of such words are : read , like , make etc There should be no repetition of letters allowed so no kill , meet etc - they will not be given as the challenge wprd. Everyone can participate and the first who finds that word is the winner. Generally a Good Player can solve the word in 4 attempts ! The participant sends a PM to the author suggesting a word. The author replies with a message in the format n C , m P where n and m are either 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 like [0 C, 1 P] or [3 C, 0 P] or [0 C, 0 P] etc. [0 C, 1 P] means No letter Common to the Challenge word and suggested word and one letter is Correct and in Position. Example Challenge word WALK and suggested word PELT - one letter L is in Position and Correct no other letter is Common with the Challenge Word. Similarly [3 C, 0 P] is exemplified by WALK and CLAW [0 C, 0 P] is like WALK and SING [ 4 P ] means that the solution has been found exemplified by WALK and suggested word WALK Once the sender gets a reply from author he uses that info to propose his next suggestion taking care not to use the letters supposedly rejected earlier so as to find the challenge word at the least number of attempts ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore the game is started hereby and I have designated a Challenge Word Please send your suggested solutions and let us see who finds that word : With the least number of attempts Best of Luck !! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS : Alternative to sending a PM if someone gives the SUGGESTED WORD here itself the reply will be posted here. Of course this will be available for everyone to work on as a CLUE !

Yes, you are absolutely right !

I will give another online game which could be more interesting : The game is perhaps quite known as we have been playing it in family circles for years. Even children can play it while it will challenge adults as well. I designate a word - a four letter verb - and I being the author is expected to be fair and not manipulate that word at my end once the game starts. The example of such words are : read , like , make etc There should be no repetition of letters allowed so no kill , meet etc - they will not be given as the challenge. Everyone can participate and the first who finds that word is the winner. Generally a Good Player can solve the word in 4 attempts ! The participant sends a PM to the author suggesting a word. The author replies with a message in the format n C , m P where n and m are either 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 like [0 C, 1 P] or [3 C, 0 P] or [0 C, 0 P] etc. [0 C, 1 P] means No letter Common to the Challenge word and suggested word and one letter is Correct and in Position. Example Challenge word WALK and suggested word PELT - one letter L is in Position and Correct no other letter is Common with the Challenge Word. Similarly [3 C, 0 P] is exemplified by WALK and CLAW [0 C, 0 P] is like WALK and SING [ 4 P ] means solution is found exemplified by WALK and suggested word WALK Once the sender gets a reply from author he uses that info to propose his next suggestion taking care not to use the letters supposedly rejected earlier so as to find the challenge word at the least number of attempts ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore the game is started hereby and I have designated a Challenge Word Please send your suggested solutions and let us see who finds that word : With the least number of attempts Best of Luck !!

tar : Thank you for your response which I will study and reply to. In the mean time : What I said : "The size of the above cube may be the same as adding 4 balls to the all touching 4 balls where each of the added ball touches 3 other balls and then connecting all the centers with straight lines. These 8 balls are perhaps the most compactly constructed as possible." I want to admit that after adding these 4 balls and connecting their centers it may not result in a cube but just a figure where four tetrahedrons are mounted on the 4 faces of a central tetrahedron. Otherwise Cube A and B as mentioned above and other points made remain same. Error is regretted. tar : Yes it is an interesting shape you have proposed and I am still to visualize the two semi circular faces , two conic surfaces with opposite conical apex so that while rolling it out the bottom of the cone covers area on the plane while the apex point is stationary and at the end of the first conical section's roll the apex point shifts to the other side and the area is covered on the opposite side. Perhaps you want to end with a shape as below while covering the entire surface area of the proposed solid. If what you have found is possible to carve out the following shapes can occur depending on the starting position of the semi circular face. At this point frankly I can not see or visualize that shape !

tar : I am struggling to visualize what happens when we cut off the 12 Squares drawn on a Sphere. What kind of polyhedron will be left ? Also using ping pong balls or identical spheres I find : Making 3 balls touch each other and connecting their centers with straight lines results in an equilateral Triangle. Making 4 balls touch each other and joining their centers with straight lines results in a tetrahedron. No more than 4 balls can be made to touch each other in real space. If a tetrahedron is boxed out with plane surfaces on all the four edges it creates a Cube inside. Or in other words if a triangular roof with three 90 Deg Vertices is mounted on each of the 4 faces of the tetrahedron the cube is created, [Cube A] The size of the above cube may be the same as adding 4 balls to the all touching 4 balls where each of the added ball touches 3 other balls and then connecting all the centers with straight lines. These 8 balls are perhaps the most compactly constructed as possible. Another arrangement of just arranging 4 balls on a plane each touching 2 others and their center connected resulting in a square. An exact set of another 4 such balls kept on top of these 4 by which each of the 8 balls touch 3 others and if their centers are connected it results in a cube [say Cube B] which must not be same as the above mentioned cube A. The size of Cube A must be less than that of Cube B [if they are of different sizes] and that is why I say that Cube A is coupled tighter than Cube B. I am trying out some free modeling tools to study these intricacies but have not found one with which I can create any solid shape at will and cut it the way i want and visualize the fall outs ! Regards Thomas PS : I think the size of Cube B is 8 R3 [R being the radius of the ping pong/ sphere] and the volume of Cube A is 2 x 21/2 R3. It all started [these sleepless visualizations] when I was trying to box out Cube A with planes on its edges just like how the tetrahedron was boxed out to produce Cube A. As a four faced roof on a square face can not have 90 Deg angle [has to be less] the boxed out shape should have some diamond shapes. 6 x 4 / 2 = 12 in all Perhaps this will be what we get cutting off the 12 squares drawn on the surface of the sphere.

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Well, the more intriguing part is this Uniqueness among DNAs within the same person supporting inherent evolution etc though the focus now is on particles too. May be we shouldn't expect exact duplicate - in all conceivable aspects !

What is the need to unify gravity with quantum mechanics ? What compulsion ??

But at such a minute scale and quantity of charge etc how can it be asserted that exact replica is proved. Even two $ coins with exact features can be taken as exact duplicates without bothering about the differences in temperature , Forces acting on each and number of particles on their internals and their state of behaviour. Maybe what you have indicated is the best identity we can get.

imatfaal : Thank you. Yes, I see the possibilities now more clearly. Both Square and Pentagon can be used to have 12 identical Sections. 12 Triangles can also be used with identical but not equilateral shapes. This is the only possibility where the sphere is cut into 4 through Cuts ie. One horizontal and three Vertical Cuts every time passing through the center of the sphere splitting it into two. tar : Thank you, yes I agree Janus & tar : Thank you for the good illustrations !

Yes, Satire is a Thrilling form of Human Expression ! A sign on Human Excellence !! When you suppress it you suppress Human Development and Progress !!! Imagine if Hitler was ridiculed and he took it in the Right Spirit perhaps there won't have been a holocaust !!!! From Positive to negative the Expressions may scale down as >>> Absolute Happiness : Fun and Wishing well to All < = > All Governments and People live in Harmony Routine Progress and Growth : Hello World ! < = > All Conflicts reasonably resolved Amicable Resolutions : Books,Plays,SATIRES & Criticism < = > Just like what we should be Right now Religious,Racial & National Fights : Strikes & Obstructions < = > World in a State of Adjustments Wars, Negotiations & Border Conflicts : FB & Twitter Wars < = > The Current State of Affairs ! Unending Violence : Poisoned letters in Content & Substance < = > Worldwide Wars and Genocides Utter Chaos : Swearing at each other < = > Destructive Nuclear Wars !! OUR WHOLE HEARTED EFFORTS MUST BE TO RISE UP THE LADDER and NEVER DESCEND !!!

Hi, Thanks. I have been thinking about alternate Currency for sometime with a view to remove Black Money and Corruption. Imagine doing away with Paper Currency and Coins etc. Other instruments like Credit Cards etc can all be reworked around this new form of Currency with embedded Identity. Of course that will remove the Possibility of hiding transaction and soon all will get used to it The tax structure need not be same to all and what was given was only a sample and also every Nation can have their own. If Currency can be standardized for the whole World it will reap enormous benefits as well with ease of processing. In equalizing People many poor Countries will face huge Numbers , Infrastructure Building and even counting and identifying qualified Citizens. It will be a huge first step.

Yes, I agree !

I support entirely the Cause of Bringing Peace to all the troubled and troubling Souls in our Humanity. So Sad we feel for those who were killed and the Freedom of Speech which is being Gagged, Targeted and Murdered. Our Heartfelt Condolences for the Bereaved Families and Prayers for the Souls of the Victims. How can a Human Being [with minimal Civility] ever Kill or Maim a fellow human Being whatever be the Cause, however be the Situation and Feeling and what is the Result ? The Killers degrade themselves and become Non-Humans and their Souls get condemned to Hell as per every Faith. The Victims and Families suffer million deaths and agony. The perpetrators get hunted out and killed like rats [mostly]. IS IT WORTH ? And then we go back to History and start analyzing where it all started and the Pros and Cons without an iota of a Clue as to how to put a Stop to it ! Gandhiji once said " There are many Causes for which I can Die but none for which I will Kill " !! Perhaps this needs serious Acceptance and Implementation by All of us Individuals, All Governments whether Friendly or Enemies and Every Angry Soul Living. We are at such a Pass because our Past Existence has not brought about a State of Stability to our Humanity which shows that our Rulers and Governments have failed and We have Failed to produce TRUE LEADERS capable of GLOBAL LEADERSHIP !!! .... with Followers having enormous weaknesses themselves as well ......

I don't think we can have 12 identical Sections comprising of the entire Solid Sphere with sphere's surface section cut to look like Square or higher polygons. Only identical Spherical Triangles are possible which is quite obvious.

Make sure every Citizen is EQUALLY recognized as a RIGHTFUL SHARE HOLDER to the WEALTH OF THE NATION. Invent a Universal Currency which can only be used by the Citizen's Electronic Device with Bio metric Security. Enable it to be seamlessly used and discard all other Instruments. All Citizen's have a linked National Bank Account Active and online 247. Every Financial transfer or transaction is recorded automatically. Allow even Person to Person money transfer instantly but only through the recorded and linked way. Implement inbuilt Scrutiny and Security. Let any nation have any type of Taxation System and collect taxes. 50% of this collected taxes can be used by various Governments to meet their various Expenses , Projects for Development etc. 50 % of the collected taxes will be shared EQUALLY among all Citizens simultaneously as the tax collection happens seamlessly so that the Nation's Growth Benefits the Weaker Sections Steadily and proportionately as DIRECT TRANSFER. If this is implemented let us see how this will work out : A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I , J are the Citizens of this nation called DEMOCRACY and have current Bank Wealth of 100 , 150, 150, 160 , 160, 300, 700 ,2000, 10000, 100000 Uniques [ the World Currency ] At present this Nation's wealth is 113720 Uniques. The growth is steady and tax collected is say 10000 out of which 5000 is shared. The next tally is 600 . 650, 650, 660, 660, 800, 1200, 10500, 100500 Easily in 10 years the minimum improvement will be : 5100, 5150, 5150, 5160, 5160, 5300, 5700, 7000, 105000 The Disparity has reduced from 1000 times to about 20 times a 5000 % improvement or cut to one fiftieth ! Easier Said than done I agree. But it is the most Christian attitude and value that can be implemented. Of course there will be all the Naysayers, Selfishly Rich, Rulers-Kings-Dictators etc who won't yield Space for easy implementation !!

I don't think we have understood all the Forces that permeate the Cosmos. Gravity is also not fully understood. This modeling for justifying some bending is also not fully explained. If someone is trying to explain that Gravity needs to be produced and does not happen automatically between Massed Bodies then everything goes for a toss. Why does Moon fall towards the Earth ? Why do I fall down when I slip off my Chair [instead of going up] ?? and such Questions need to be revisited. There must be certainly more Forces than what we have explained so far. Also it will be interesting to know why Accumulated Mass after some Limit tends to blow up. And then as proposed in Big Bang if all the masses of the Universe condense together then : How did all the Matter got together without worrying about Star Limit, Galaxy Limit etc ? And then what Causes the Explosion ??