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lol Answering his questions on the other thread has pooped me a bit. Might not be able to convince swansont the universe is stirred not shaken till I've slept on it.

I work on clarity every day. Unfortunately I don't get the practice with physics vocabulary this subject requires. I have not regularly referred to a nucleosynthesis model of any complexity greater than that provided in the wiki planck scale BB description. I've focussed on symmetry breaking so I'm not sure what I have strung together would be called a model of nucleosynthesis. It might pass as a basic model of spatial expansion and vacuum regulation. If BB starts with exponential expansion I've assumed the pointlike nature of electron/positrons represents this symmetry breaking. Although this symmetry breaking allows 'space' for proton/anti-proton production, that space being the product of angular momentum means vacuum symmetry is not governed until helium stabilisation provides confinement of centre of momentum. Hydrogen would not have stablised expansion as it's balance of momenta refracts the original symmetries disruption from stable centre of momentum(exponential expansion) to a confinement of angular momentum. The balance of momenta present in helium provides a total internal reflection of the original symmetry. On this basis I would assume the mass of the universe at reionisation would have been largely high mass helium product with pockets of highly charged hydrogen in rapid fusion. Oxygen represents an element that contributes to the strong chemical and electromagnetic properties that the products of hydrogen fusion within the observable universe generate. I assume that DM's space would be dominated by weak and strong force properties. There may be an element that plays a similar role to oxygens relationship to hydrogen for products of primordial high mass helium but the limitations of the strong and weak force should preclude there being an element as dense as carbon to provide any definable FoR in DM's spacetime to develop separation of charge within. It may be that the primordial helium I have assumed as providing DM's mass has an isotopic weight that is not stable at normal matters velocities. This would about summarise the extent to which I have analysed standard theory and observation.

I'll put on a coffee and think of the best way to cover these questions. My vocabulary isn't polished on physics.

You aren't actually pointing out anything. I didn't say photons but I did mean light mass particles .Who do you mean by we? Were you directly involved in first measurIng these things? I would predicted that it would be mostly helium and a small amount of hydrogen but I won't go into that 'speculation' for fear of confronting your limitations with communication.

Velocity passes for mass and time dilation Strange, does it not? Light particles at BB velocities might produce elements we can only infer the presence of. You have not provided any substance to your answers while I have only asked questions and referred to assumptions I have made. I do not understand your hostility?

I have assumed that DM, at rest, is not moving at relatavistic velocities. DM as a field would be without angular momentum pressure. Where did all the BB helium go? I assume it exists at the periphery of the universes EM field as whatever elements might form at a low mass high velocity superfluid-like state. I speculate that the sudden dissipation of mass in a chain reaction without inertia might exert a cavitation on the vacuum that disrupts the DM field in a manner that produces a DM micro-bh that dissipates by gaining angular momentum drawing it into normal matters time dilation. These seem fair enough assumptions to make. If they are definably incorrect against recorded data I would appreciate clarification rather than condescension and ridicule . I never claimed to study this stuff in more than my spare time. I didn't grow up in the country or new zealand so sheep references go over my head.

How is that determined? I assume DM's state resembles that of a superfluid. If DM is sufficiently separated from normal matter by time dilation it would be more likely to be without angular momentum and it's effects than to be devoid of charge as a field.

What do you feel when you bend your knees? Your brain telling you that if you don't exert force you will drop? It is not the best analogy for discussing the sensation of inertia.For the purposes of defining force here it may be better to preclude references to the brains interpretation of sensations. Inertial force is simpler defined by direct physical effects that are more tangible under greater acceleration. A person accelerating from the ground in a plane is pressed into their seat and their blood begins to pool in the direction opposite to acceleration. Gravity has the same effect to a lesser degree. Is this is recognised as inertial compression or as force? If it is recognised as force what is the definition of force here? Is inertial compression not definable as measuring your own length contraction? An elastic force acting over a distance is about how I'd describe DM/DE interaction with normal matter. The distance would be measured in time dilation rather than space. I would assume that it is interacting with normal matter electromagnetically but only on a glaobal scale, ie; DM is not subjected to angular momentum(non-directional), retaining a superfluid state allowing it to retain a high level of charge that displaces it from normal matters time dilation so that DM's electromagnetic forces cannot act on normal matter, other than to maintain the time dilation between either. As a field that is effectivel being pushed ahead of normal matter in time it should exert only weak and strong force effects on normal matter otherwise. This would summarise my assumptions on DM and I would welcome better clarificaiton. The assumption I have made here is that normal matter interacts with DM through acceleration. DM providing normal matter with inertial confinement. As the nature of DM is yet to be revealed perhaps this does belong under speculations. I was attempting to ask whether a massive particle would be separated from normal matter by it's time dilation. It is a simple enough question. What defines a massive particle? Charge? Speed? Chirality? I assumed time dilation would be the primary separation between DM and normal.

You've got some have you? I have indicated I suspect DM is only limited to gravitational effects with normal matter. Helium and other elements are known as elements with escape velocity in relation to our atmosphere. I have no problem if it is moved. Since I intended a discussion on DM I thought it might be acceptable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray I suspect DM doesn't interact with normal matter electromagnetically because it's time dilation is superimposed on ours so that it is travelling in front of our light cone. I initially considered limiting DM to elements with extreme escape velocities. If DM exists in front of normal matters present moment it might interact with itself electromagnetically creating chemical components.

The wiki description I read regarding cosmic rays described these as 'non-directional'. This would match the state I would expect DM matter to be found in, though DM would exist either in chemical compostions that have decayed from a BB or as relatively shortlived highly charged non-rotating micro-bh's produced in gravitational collapse events.

I guess I'd be proposing another radius that was associated to DM. My understanding of DM is that it is in a highly charged state and non-directional. For the exercise this would provide charged non-rotating micro-bh's that would be stable till the extra charge/time dilation is dissipated. By magnetically contained I did not mean absorbed but reflected and compressed.

I wasn't going to post this as a thread but instead of finding a way to forget the idea I've found one that might be plausible. I would have posted this in the Speculation thread but thought it at least deserved some critical review. The proposal is that nuclear detonation in a gravitational FoR produces a dark-matter micro-bh by transferring charge to mass. Rather than provide speculations regarding kinetic energy, time dilation and charge I would propose the following thought experiment? What would be produced if a falling nuclear detonation were entirely magnetically contained? I take no offense if this is moved to the Speculation thread

Aaah but,,,, might the force you feel be your body attempting to contract in the absence of acceleration? Or, if your body is accelerating by working against the force of gravity your body FoR is contracting already. Is it contraction you feel as symptom of force? Would kinetic energy be classified as an elastic force? It can be absorbed physically and as charge. re: micro-bh production from freefall nuclear detonation, this would propose that the speed of the reaction is multiplied by the velocity of the mass involved. It would not produce a normal matter micro-bh, instead creating a DM micro-BH as the velocity would be absorbed as charge. What I would propose is that in a gravitational FoR the particles at the centre of the chain reaction transfer their mass state to that of DM and stabilise as a micro-BH. Against this it would be assumed that DM's elusive nature would be due to it's time dilation. Would the term 'massive particle' refer to it's time dilation?

Is length contraction the basis of gravitation?

Gave it some thought and I believe the micro-bh from falling nuclear detonation idea was based around foreshortening, so not much to it probably. Interested in any feedback around the subject though. For instance, would the effects of foreshortening reach a point in which a spontaneous fission reaction would occur, given a high enough velocity? Assuming the answer is negative, is the only effect of length contraction that of reducing travel time to a destination? Could this work the other way round as an alternative to warping the space in front of and behind a vehicle, would contracting the length of an object provide kinetic energy to it?

It is not the explosion that would directly contribute. I have assumed that in the gravitational FoR the chain reaction would be confined to global relativity rather than local. ie; in a stationary test the radial velocity of the earth confines the chain reaction locally. While falling the radial velocity of the galaxy confines the reaction. This idea has played around in the back of my head and caused a degree of confusion thus far. Now that I've identified what I was contemplating I am trying to figure out where exactly I got the idea and can only link it to the relativity of vacuum compression between two objects with differing velocity.

Can someone describe what prevents a nuclear detonation in a gravitational FoR from producing a micro-BH?

I had thought this would be easy enough to refute

Yes it was reassuring to discover that vacuum energy was also an acceptable term. I can entirely understand DM/DE being terms that developed out of Cold War thinking however. Which raises a topic that has confused my absorbing the progress of Standard Theory. At some point I was looking for a gravitational FoR experiment that explored the boundaries of inertia. The most obvious was nuclear detonation in freefall. Considering this provided me with the solution that this experiment would produce a micro-BH. My assumption here is that detonation in the gravitational FoR isolates angular momentum as centre of momentum. I suppose my reference to DM being involved with BH stabilisation is a reference to the requirement for two vacuum states that mediate BH stabilisation at critical mass. I believe it is a question regarding what is a preferred FoR and why? This speculation would require that in the gravitational FoR detonation draws directly on the baryocentric potential of the galaxy to isolate the chain reaction. I am not seeking to support this as a hypothesis as it provides alarming results. Understanding where I have overly assumed to draw this conclusion would be benefical though.

Yes I was extending the analogy unnecessarily.

hhmmm,, would the suggestion be that BH's are stabilised as DM?

heh... so DM spacetime is equivocal to star trek sub-space?

Thanks. http://www.wiese.itp.unibe.ch/lectures/universe.pdf sooooo,,, just skimming would it be reasonable to conclude that hypothesis is that DM consists of elements that exist at charge levels that conform to neutrino rather than photon density?