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I don’t know either way. Sometimes we base things on sort of myths we piece together. Musk’s perceived personality is conflicting accounts. I think he did make important contributions to SpaceX, Tesla. I think he is a genius. But genius doesn’t equal personality. He is following the standard book of a mad scientist in that he wants control. So he decides who has a job. Again this proves he is a genius. He convinced everyone this saves money and prosperity. He claims it will improve the economy and lower the deficit. But it makes perfect sense to have a genius in charge of the economy, government, and people’s lives. What could go wrong?

He is just a man. But what is it you like or dislike about him? Whatever your opinion, give the example of what he did.

Well again I was agreeing with you. I was just was stating what the podcast said. It takes at least 3 months to complete the study. I am unfamiliar in these processes. But I think it had something to do with the window to reach Mars. But remember anything to do with space is inherently dangerous. The day Challenger launched it had 6ft ice sickles on it. Red tape is real. If you ever dealt with it, as you probably have. But you don’t destroy the entire agency. Many times I waited for months as my file sat on a desk. It needed a signature that would take 5 minutes only to sit on another desk for another 5 minute signature. It was like the government agency did this on purpose. So I understand why deregulation is backed. But you don’t destroy the entire agency. I mean you don’t cancel aid to starving kids to get revenge on the regulations we are all subject to.

You’re right he is just testing the waters. It will lead to the agency he really doesn’t want. Or even the threat of dismantlement would influence agencies.

Well I still don’t understand his motivation. I don’t know economics but I don’t think cutting funds in the millions could “directly” transfer for his use. You may actually lose more money by creating new problems. Wouldn’t Trump fund his space projects anyway? What are you guys conspiracy theories? What is Elon’s motive? He could have all the funding he wants without “cutting waste.” Why dismantle the government agencies? If the money benefited him I understand. Cutting programs doesn’t solve his legal problems, does it?

I am agreeing with you. I all about stopping waste, but this isn’t the way to do it. These programs took years to establish. No one knows the criteria for identifying waste. When you take out the FDA, you are just paving the way for eliminating the Affordable Care Act. He knows how to put projects together. I don’t think things like Space X would be there without him. But I don’t think he is motivated by money. To me it doesn’t make sense he is dealing in government affairs and saving money. I thought he would be totally focused on Mars. The following is just my figuring but trashing a government program doesn’t save money. It wastes all the effort put in the program. People lose aid. It doesn’t get rid of the need. And you can’t just replace the program. I heard the following on an Elon Musk podcast on Audible. Elon needed to launch at a certain date, but was told he had to complete a 3 month FAA study; something to do with using the air space for launch. Now eliminating such a bureaucratic policy makes sense. That is waste. I like Elon Musk the guy who saved the US space program. I don’t think he should be trashing government programs. i know what people think. “He made rockets for a fraction of the cost of the trillion dollar NASA rockets that are never built, imagine what he could do with the government.“

Well I am joining this topic late after reading the previous posts. But I think science is going to improve in the current administration. The problem is science is going to advance but at what cost. Not of money, because if the science is not profitable it will be trashed. If better means faster spacecraft or more powerful weapons we will be better. I’m impressed by Elon Musk’s accomplishments. He gets things done but not without making the people working for him miserable. I write this description of him based on his biography. I’m not an academic but cutting $37 million from a few thousand researcher and planning a trillion AI doesn’t add up. The question is how long before he cuts a program you use? We will have to see how this plays out. Trump knows we need research. And Elon’s Twitter experiment is still going on. I just wished we knew how it turned out before we used it to eliminate waste in government.

Remember I am not for getting rid of teachers. The ai does not have to teach to ruin higher education. All it has to do is ruin the discipline you teach. I use to write as a hobby. It is hard enough to get things seen in the sea of the internet let alone competing with ai. Then to add insult to injury the machine learns (copies) what you create and now can write if it was you. Prorammers are next. Sure it can help with code compatibility, but if this thing recognizes patterns it is in control of the code. It will be able to see things we don’t. And finally mathematics. It may not design and create math as well as humans, but it will have obscure facts, especially in statistics, about the average time the play clock moved before each team snapped the ball in the Super Bowl. Know matter if it is brilliant or crap 💩 it risks the chance of ruining disciplines. I know it isn’t all bad. The processing could help use find cures or inventions. What I am saying is nothing new. You would better understand my position if you read “The Cyberaid.” The most important thing teachers can supply is in person instruction. Machines can’t do this. But I have had classes where you are left to figure the project from instructions and the instructor input is only to tell you what you did wrong. No resubmission. They just grade it. Couldn’t an ai do the same?

Scientifically we cannot describe “nothing.” But what if nothing described something that didn’t exist yet? Take your own life before your cells existed. A few seconds earlier it wouldn’t be you it would be a different person. So you are nothing because you didn’t exist and under different conditions may not have existed. So before you existed you viewed of the universe was nothing. Would it be the same for the universe?

I don’t know the true capabilities of AI. You could argue it isn’t thinking. But its ability to find patterns (Some that we don’t even understand.) is remarkable. But even if our thoughts are more advanced, more creative it doesn’t matter. Take board games we might perform better on D&D, but anything that has a logical pattern the AI will dominate. Say this thing learns statistics and game theory. Even without it the pattern recognition and speed of processing mimics how we think and is beyond our abilities. I saw a YouTube video with a computer machine learning Super Mario Brothers that did nothing for weeks but little by little played the game. Well I am for education and teachers. However while you could say teachers design curriculum an AI can train on it. I heard somewhere AI was training on Khan Academy. You can’t replace the instruction and feedback of a teacher, but a self study or preparing for a licensing exam would be perfect for AI. Even if you feel like AI can’t do your job, it can still train and spit out junk that works good enough to substitute in your place. Bottom line I don’t like it. It’s not the computer’s fault. Someone is trying to make money ripping (training) on others content. And I think the 500 billion AI initiative would by better spent on space and other projects.

Well I used that example because your job is next. I believe any creative endeavor will as you guys say “change” will be less valuable. Do you think AI can’t teach? It can summarize the notes and provide reading. College is mostly self studying. So if the AI wrote the test from the curriculum not only could it make custom tests, it could add a time limit and proctor the exam. I understand it will change the way students study. That doesn’t worry me. I use art as the example that if you paint a picture then the AI copies it and draws a thousand more variations is your painting still special?

That is exactly how it ruins things. You could say it just does the grunt work, but where do you draw the line. CharonY you might do protein folding. It’s million of steps that you can’t process without a computer anyway. So you input into the computer. But when is your part of the process no longer needed? Read about the poetry machine in the Cyberaid. I know there are benefits, but it’s like you invented the heart health cereal Cheerios then someone makes the generic Toasty Oats for $2 cheaper. Even if Cheerios is better in taste and ingredients, why would you make a product if AI was going to copy it and decrease it’s value? We are a set of old encyclopedias that Wikipedia has just replaced.

That is what they said about manufacturing jobs. It is not just about eliminating repetitive tasks, it ruins the creative process. Today artwork and music, writing essays, writing fiction all ripped off and buried in endless examples. Just as no one can beat the computer at chess, the AI doesn’t need to be advanced to ruin disciplines.

Well then you should post a screenshot of both problems and their answers.

2 arcs of length AJ, if J is the midpoint of AB, equal the length of AB. You don’t have a straight edge so you have to draw an arc of length AB from point B to determine the line. Ask @studiot , is this how you would make these geometric constructions? I thought finding the midpoint of AC was pretty straightforward. But if you are doing this for the first time it is difficult. You could just mark a line of AB from point B and it would give you the distance. However without a straight edge you need a second arc because you cannot just draw a straight line,

You could find the midpoint of A and B by adjusting your compass to any distance slightly lager than half AB. With this distance make an arc from A than B. The intersection of the two arcs is the midpoint. Call this midpoint point J. With the AJ length of the compass from B draw an arc. From any point on this arc draw another arc with length AJ. With compass size AB draw and arc that intersects the last arc you made. This is BC.

It could be a miscommunication on my part, but I worked on the solution to “the tangent circles.” I have shown a way to make infinite tangents between 2 circles of unknown radius. Can you restate the problem? I like geometric constructions. A drawing would help.

It says “center” ; “tangent” ; c1 radius. My lettering is bad but isn’t that what you wanted? The tangent?

I was solving the entire problem: How to draw infinite circles tangent to C1 knowing only C1 radius as the given. I don’t believe you gave Studiot or me exact wording of the problem. I am working on the fact that the radius of C1 is given. If you know the radius you can just use the compass from any point on the circumference to find C1’s center. Well if the radius of C1 is given you can refer to answer to question 1. If you have to find the center of C1 (That is it is unknown.), you would need a straight edge to connect the horizontal and vertical lines that meet in the center. Do you know how to use a compass to divide an arbitrary line by striking an arc from both endpoints of the arbitrary line? Same thing with circle because the straight lines of the diameters of the circle are straight lines revolved around the center. List the exact words of the problem and I will help you solve it.

In my example you do not need a straightedge. Simply make 4 arcs with the compass from each quadrant. Use an arbitrary radius that is slightly bigger than the radius of the given circle. This will give you the center. Proceed with constructing the tangent circles radius. Then from the tangent circle draw a construction circle with the original circle’s radius Draw a circle that encompasses all these circles. (That would be the diameter of the original circle plus the radius of the tangent circle.) Any radius of the tangent circle’s radius when drawn with the compass from any point on the circumference of the construction circle will be tangent. I need you to try this and see if it works. I checked my drafting book and this case is not in it. I will test it. It is also hard to describe in words, so if anything in my description doesn’t make sense let me know.

Yes, I know. But constructions are common in drafting. They use to teach it before using CAD. Not for measuring; only to draw a straight line. If you look up how to find the center of a line you can use the same technique to find the center of the circle. From the center draw a circle of tangent circle’s radius. From any point on this tangent circle draw a circle of the tangent radius. Now every tangent radius of the last circle will be tangent to the original circle. Center of ordinal circle will plus unknown radius. Then unknown tangent circle that is subtracted by original circle. And then the tangent radius that by subtracting gives us the original radius distance to form the tangent. All without measuring.

I would like to see interactive graphs; a graph in real-time. What if a graph was approaching zero and instead of changing axis, scales, and equations by hand there would be a animated roller coaster that road till the maximum x-value?

Are you doing drafting by hand? This construction instructions are often confusing but explain something simple. I will give you some constructions that may help. You know to find the midpoint of a segment with a compass to set the compass slightly larger than half the distance of the segment and at the beginning and end is the segment strike an arc with the unknown radius above and below the segment. Take the straight edge and draw a line connecting the 2 intersections of the arc. This is the midpoint of the segment. This is described complexly but is easy technique. Showing is easier than writing. I need to look this up to verify but if you know the center of the given circle you could take the radius of the target circle, and draw the radius of the target circle from center of the given circle. This new circle and any point on this circle would result in the tangent circle. Finding the center of a circle is the same as the center of a segment. I believe this would be one technique in tangent circles. I will look it up but trying it should prove right or wrong.

We, as in humans Yes. If ever we create a true AI, it would lead us to believe we were created. And it would mean a similarity between us and the AI. If anything the AI would be superior. An AI that could “think” with quantum computing would be able to create more than us if thinking in thoughts per minute. We would claim to be evolved when we just created a very capable life form.