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Thanks .. that makes more sense (to me) .. Does that mean than that: If n number of different wavelengths (for example 100) of light were crossing the same region ... that in that shared region there would also be one net aggregate of all the adding and subtracting of each .. like Electricity and Magnetism do ? - - - - - - Regarding the other .. AFAIK .. In electricity .. the electric field (volts) .. does by itself indicate weather there is an attraction or repulsion .. With additional information (distance, orientation,etc) ... including the power/energy of those electric fields one can calculate the total amount of power/energy of that attraction or repulsion... one way to determine that power/energy is by using the intermediate steps of Amps/Ah (Rate of charges and total number of charges) .. but it can also be calculated based on the total electric power/energy Watts/Wh without using the intermediate step of Amps/Ah. Light doesn't have amps or Ah of charge per se ... but we don't need that intermediate step sense we do know it's Power/Energy other ways without Amps or Ah .. and part of light is isn't electric potential field (volts) waveform .. technically a variable voltage with the waveform , but still a voltage .. Would that than allow us to calculate the (electric based) attraction / repulsion of Photon A to Photon B at any given time of their electric waveforms ? Maybe using methods something like the attraction and repulsion of a roughly equal electric field wave form of the same voltage wavelength frequency etc .. etc. ??

Maybe I'm just not seeing it ?? .. but I don't see the connection between what your describing and what I was asking about ?? If my screen were emitting a magnetic field / or some wavelike flux of that field .. and the room had some other magnetic field / flux .. AFAIK there is only 1 net aggregate Magnetic effect experienced ... No matter how many sources , angles, magnitudes , or how incoherent all those various magnetic sources are , etc , etc .. same goes for electric sources .. etc. AFAIK this same difference still happens .. even if the magnetic or electric is in flux , and all the multiple sources are changing .. still only one net aggregate effect .. it doesn't have to be static at all. The magnetic portion of the electro-magnetic wave doesn't seem to care (significantly) if it's traveling past a magnet .. or near a voltage .. it's magnetic component and electrical component seems to ignore the other magnetic and electrical sources .. something that doesn't happen in other magnetic interactions .. Specifically in my question here the magnetic and electrical aspect of other light waves in close proximity to each other .. Photon 1 and Photon 2 .. to Photon n. Said another way: Why doesn't magnetic component of Photon x effect/interact with magnetic component of Photon y ?.. any other two magnetic effects would .. why don't they for light's ? .. and the same for electrical component... It's like two magnets getting near each other but never having any interaction repulsion or attraction as they get closer and closer... Light's behavior does not seem to be the normal behavior for other magnetism ..same for electrical .. yet it is both.

Other field and waves of either part .. Electric or Magnetic form aggregate or net effects .. while Light doesn't seem to (significantly) share this behavior (AFAIK). Why? - - - A bit more to explain this concept I'm curious about. Put multiple magnetic sources near each other .. they interact and form a net or aggregate single Magnetic effect .. Same thing with multiple electric sources ... the result is a net or aggregate effect. The Electronic and Magnetic fields of the electro-magnetic wave of light seem to (mostly) not exhibit this behavior to any significant degree .. AFAIK... Multiple light waves in the same region don't form a net or aggregate single light wave .. as either electric or magnetic do... as if the magnetic portion of light mostly just ignores other magnetic sources .. and the electric portion of light mostly ignores other electric sources. Any insights and such would be appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for previous responses. Had a few recent thoughts and wanted a 2nd opinion , etc. #1> If the propagation of the event-horizon outward (radius) can only expand at the speed light .. Total Diameter of the entire Black Hole max growth rate of 2C .. (Surface area for mass to enter could increase 4PiR2) .. Sense AFAIK there is not a similar maximum on the rate at which additional mass/energy can enter (to further contribute to the expansion) .. Am I correct to think that it is possible to have a (short term) imbalance as it takes time for the (speed of light moving) event horizon to 'catch up' ? #2> AFAIK even a photon of light has a minimum size (wavelength) .. If an expanding black hole's event horizon catches up with part of but not all of a photon .. does it 'split' the photon ?.. ie the part inside the event horizon can't get out .. the part on the outside can still escape/leave. #3> If 2 , than ... Would the remaining 'piece' of photon that did manage to escape/leave .. when split form a new 'whole photon' and be reduced in wavelength , proportionally to the amount of energy it lost to the part that was taken in by the black hole's expanding event horizon ? Thanks

Link They claim to have experimentally shown the lower bound for the speed of the 'spooky action at a distance' .. to be at least... 1.38x104 C

From our point of view / on the outside / distance away / etc .. How would it look any different to us if there was a transitional zone ? Has there ever been a falsifiable test done (scientific method) , that scientifically demonstrates/rules out , that there is/isn't a transitional zone ? Assuming there is one ... Does anyone have any pointers/links to find that scientific falsifiable test ? My own meager searches have not found it.

Thanks all Wouldn't that mean there would be a 'quantum' or minimum steps of gravity ? Hmm I was always told the exact opposit of that ?? I was always told relativistic mass (not rest mass) did increase as the energy increased. You say increase in energy doesn't do this. Weird claim ?? That also seems to 100% disagree with the possible formation of a Kugelblitz. (Which were always my favorite type of black hole). Sense they are a black whole made of only light energy, which only has relativistic mass of the increasing energy in that region to form the black hole. Because you said there is no direction it can go that gets out of the black hole. It has a way in but not way out. All path or direction it goes in never leads out. Why would that make any difference? There still has to be a path out , or it can't get out. It doesn't matter what it is made of or not made of there is no path out to take to get out. I don't understand why that matters ?? If there is no path of space out there is no path out. Even for the space dependant (distance) effects of gravity. There would be no 'distance' to travel along a path of space from the mass inside to some point outside the event horizon , thus no curvature out at that distance from the mass inside either. That distance between mass inside to mass outside is a 100% path in space dependant thing. - - - There are two other things about this claim of no path that leads out, that seems wierd to me. #1> There was a path that lead out before the formation of the event horizon. For that path to not just be bent, but for the path to now be gone entirely infers the space itself is not just bent , but torn/cut/etc. Than reattached at a different location (the singularity). #2> If no point of the space inside connects to a point of space on the outside. Than there also should be no path to travel in space to get in from the outside either. The inside space is not connected to the outside space along any path. ??Weirds??

Thanks I've been told an object's mass increases as it approaches the speed of light .. it's greater kinetic energy contributing a relativistic mass component .. if true .. does the mass of the black hole itself increase as the objects inside it accelerate toward the center .. even if no new external mass is added ? Does a moving Black Hole create additional new Space-Time in it's wake as it moves forward? What happened to the old Space-Time that entered the front of a moving black hole? How does the gravity of the mass inside get out if there is no path that leads out ? If gravity can be infinately small with no minimum step .. does that allow for gravity to be used to make infinately small measurements ?

I have a few questions: #1> Waste Down If I'm slowly falling into a large Black Hole .. At some point I am waste and bellow is on the inside of black hole event horrizon and waste up is on the outside of the black hole event horrizon .. Can I feel my feet? #2> Event Horizon Transitional Zone Is there a transitional zone where light might not have an escape velocity .. But it can travel some finite distance away from event horizon before being red shifted away , or pulled/bent/etc in a ballistic like trajectory back ? #3> Does gravity have a Minimum or Maximum? If not how far / what are .. the end points so far that have been experimentally tested/verified?