Scary Truth

It would be easy enough to verify that the stars in the night-time sky, as viewed from the southern hemisphere, rotate clockwise around a fixed point. Viewed from the northern hemisphere, the stars rotate counter-clockwise around a fixed point, (Polaris). With only basic logic, with no geometry required, this is indisputable proof of a spherical Earth -- rotating on its axis. There is no other possible explanation. None.

A perfectly vertical object must be 69.17 miles distant to exhibit a 1 degree tilt away from the observer. Earth's circumference -- 24,901 miles Degrees in a circle -- 360 24,901 divided by 360 = 69.17. However, an object at 69 miles distant from an observer will be over 3,000 feet below the observer's horizon. Distance in miles squared x 8 divided by 12 = feet of drop. (69 x 69 x 8 divided by 12 = 3,174) This is the formula for determining arc/distance/drop over Earth's surface curvature. Most people cannot detect a tilt in a structure, even when it's more than 1 degree to either side. The Union Building in Charleston, WV for example -- it's the building on the river bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Charleston,_West_Virginia#/media/File:Charleston_Kanawha_River.jpg Finally, no conversation on such matters would be complete until matters of light refraction are addressed. Over distances and especially over water, light waves tend to deflect downward. Objects that are situated below and past the horizon can remain visible at longer distances, depending on a wide variety of atmospheric conditions.

America has become completely infected with an invisible, shadow government. An ultra-elite collection of the most powerful, well-connected persons that are unaccountable, unelected, and that pursue well-disguised agendas that are contrary to the public interest. These people fully understand the way power, real power at the highest political and institutional levels actually works -- and cooperative persons are maneuvered into key positions to do their bidding. Politicians at the highest levels including throughout both houses of congress and the president are bought and paid for -- beholdened to their puppet-masters -- and they dutifully follow orders. Reputations and careers are on the line. JFK pissed off the wrong people, as did MLK and RFK -- and the ruling elite demonstrated their true power -- to those that would think to defy them. They further demonstrated their power through elaborate cover-ups, injecting half-baked, over-simplistic fairy tales to explain the murders. The Oklahoma City bombing, the 911 attacks and the Sandy Hook massacre are other examples of massive information control. The visible, public political system is essentially a ruse. A massive hoax. The grandest, most elaborate stage-show in human history -- complete with producers, writers, directors, set designers and actors -- with a cast of 320 million extras. It's the ultimate good-ole-boys club, and you and I aren't in it. The vast mainstream media, once the watchdog of and for the general public, has been fully integrated into this immense network. Public perceptions are carefully controlled while the "bewildered herd" is managed, distracted and entertained. Tattoos, the coolest new handheld, Dancing with the Stars, hero worship movies are all the vogue -- don't miss the 'big game' (that affects your life in the least), and for God's sake, don't forget to bring the beer. America is being dis-assembled -- piece by piece. A child born in America today is saddled with over $70,000 in life-time debt -- and it's getting worse. One in six Americans rely on monthly food stamps. One in four American children live below the poverty line. The rich get richer, the poor, poorer -- and the income gap is getting wider. Wars and invasions are waged on false pretenses, resulting in over a million civilian deaths in Iraq alone -- three million during the Vietnam war. America has become the most distrusted and hated nation on Earth. There's no end in sight.

Not sure how anyone could view this video and not see the obvious is beyond me. With the observer's eye-level around 10, (or more), feet above the water-line, the distant shore line is clearly obscured by the convex surface of the water. In fact, at around 11:10 of the video, distant boats on the water are far above the bases of the buildings even more distant. Then -- with conclusive proof to the contrary, the videographer proclaims that "the Earth is flat, Jack". Remarkable. The actual, visible curvature in the Earth is a function of distance and the observer's height of eye level. At 24,901 miles circumference at Earth's equator, any object would have to be 69 miles distant to demonstrate a 1 degree tilt away from the observer's eyes at 6 ft above the water's surface -- however -- at that distance, the object would be over 3,000 feet below the observer's horizon. (360 degrees into 24,901 = 69.17 miles). Then: 69 X 69 X 8 divided by 12 = 3174 feet. In addition, light, especially over great distance and over water, tends to refract downward, skewing, (sometimes profoundly), visual results depending on a variety of atmospheric conditions. The "tilt" of an object away from the observer will never be observable, even with an observation point of great height -- from an airliner, for instance. Discerning a 1 degree tilt/slant at 69 miles distance is impossible for obvious reasons. Considering matters of refraction that can vary quite a bit, I believe the best way to observe and clearly demonstrate the Earth's curvature is to observe a large ship headed for open ocean, on a clear day. Viewing from a multi-storied structure with an unobstructed view of the ship's path is ideal. A decent telescope with tripod is very helpful. From the ground floor, wait to observe the departing ship to reach the horizon. The ship will eventually begin to go past and behind the visible horizon and seem to slowly "sink" as the hull is more and more blocked from view. As the ship's distance grows, only the uppermost parts of the ship will be visible -- and eventually the entire ship will descend completely from view. Move to the upper floors of the structure, (the higher, the better), and refocus the telescope. Even with the expected atmospheric distortion at a great distance, the ship's upper portions will be back in view. A ten story, (or more), structure is ideal, as an observation at ground level, the fifth story and finally from the tenth story would offer dramatic and unmistakable results.

I'd have to say that both videos I posted clearly demonstrate a pronounced convex curvature in the surface of large bodies of water over sufficient distance. In fact, I don't see how it could be misconstrued. The Earth has a circumference of 24,901 miles. Divided by 360 (degrees) is about 69 miles. A locally vertical structure would have to be at 69 miles distant to display a 1 degree tilt away from the observer. Most people cannot detect a 1 degree tilt in a structure at moderate distance and even when the tilt is sideways. http://urbanup.net/cities/west-virginia/charleston-west-virginia/downtown/union-building/ Also, at 69 miles distance, (terrain matters aside), the 1 degree tilted structure would be about 3,200 feet below the observer's horizon. Finally, I cannot fathom how any person could view this video and come away with a strand of flat-Earth zaniness remaining.

Clear demonstration of Earth's curvature on the Thames River, (skip to 5:00 to get to the beef): Large schooner disappears behind the horizon -- from the hull upward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=35&v=dV0h68YU0iQ