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same as some people concider it an injustice to drag non-damaging drug use into the legal system, to the dismay of the drug-user. there are still valid reasons for doing so, however, and less people suffer this way than would the alternative way

yes, concidering how receptive childeren are to 'act --> reward' behavioral enforsment, i would imagin that this would be quite common. so would this mean that they would be coersed, or are the kids just being hookers? or would they have seperate laws about not swaping sex for rewards for childeren as they do for adults. remember what i said about japan recently having to bring in rules to cut down on the number of buisnissmen giving schoolgirls 'gifts' in return for sex.

how would you sujjest the issue be handled?

actually, i was thinking of what my piersist told me, about how surprisingly common it is for people to come in with childeren so young they have to be carried, and ask for their nipples to be piersed. and even a few clittoral/penal piersings requested for the baby... and upon being told that both nipple and penal peirsings are dangerouse if the done before the body has finished maturing, the parents generally walk off with an 'ill find someone else to do it then' attitude

reguardless of anything else, i agree that we should be less hysterical. hysteria achieves nothing.

compare: some people can drop acid on a regular basis and suffer no ill effects, but for most people taking acid runs a seriouse risk of causing psycological damage. also, people have demonstrated, time and time again, an inability to correctly assess the risks and accurately determine wether it would be safe for them to take acid or not. thus, acid is illegal; the rite of the few to enjoy a drug which would do them no harm is sacraficed for the good of the majority, for whom 1/acid would be damaging, and 2/would not be in a position whereby they could correctly* make the desision as to wether or not to take acid. there are many such analogies - whilst a few childeren could have sex without it being a bad thing, many could not, and also could not notice this. the responsibility for correctly making the decision would fall upon the adult, which is much akin to letting the drug dealer decide wether someone is psycologically 'ready' to take acid, ie some will do whats rite, and forgo profit/sex if its in the best interests of the customer/child, but most will not. ------------------------------------------------------------------- * ie, with a high probability of correctly determining wether or not the acid would psycologically harm them

for the good of all childeren, the few cases where concential, non-damaging sex is possible are sacraficed. as i said before, most childeren cannot make the choice correctly, and most adults who engage with sex-with-childeren are disinclined to forgo sex merely because it is damaging to the child - hence, in most cases, it is bad. anyway, its arguable that this 'budding' is a prosess that should come in its own natural time, and not be rushed by an adult.

add english to that list... i still cant stop thinking that canadians live in canadia. seriously, some adults get there baby childeren piersed or tattoed, or dangle them over balconies; when there are people who are this irresponsible with theur babies, should we really even consider giving them the ability to desighn them? and what about munchousens by proxy? if people are capable of poisoning their kids to get attention, then i dont think that an attention-grabbing desighner baby with a double-size flashing neon head is out of the question. some of the things people do to their kids for their own benifit are disgusting enough allready, i dont think we should let people tinker about at the genetic level.

yes, and my consern is that, whilst adults can be quite resillient to coersion, childeren oftern cannot, and also are not always in the best position to make informed desisions about what is good for them - hence, a child who is not ready to have sex could quite easaly make the mistake of having sex, and so should be protected. harsh.

how about: if you were a parent, how would you feel if your 11 year old son told you that hed been having sex with a 34 year old man, and that hed desided that he didnt want to any more and was upset that hed done it atall, and he only did it in the first plase because he the man said it was a good thing to do etc - would you not be annoyed that the man had taken advantage of your son?

well basically some kids mature faster than others. i matured very early, hence why i think it would have been ok had my female teacher had sex with me when i was 11. other kids mature much slower. and remember, reguardless of what your first lover was like, there are many ass-holes who dont care what effect they have on the person that they sleep with. if everyone was going to be careful, and ensure that the person that they were sleeping with was going to be ok (and if not, not sleep with them), then we would have no need for the age of consent and im sure a few men would openly sleep with a few boys, and it would be acepted. but as i said, there are many ass-holes in this world

immajine all of the people who call their child things like 'trixybell la-la de'murr', people like jako and maddona. now imajine how theyd desighn their baby. "omg, wouldnt it be cool if he glowed in the dark and had a tail and 5 ears". and these people have the money to argue that that should be allowed, if desighner babys were allowed atall (actually, a tail would be quite cool)

thats such an apt emoticon! ok, so if you dont concider it wrong, why dont you have sex with boys. thats a personal question, so if youd rather decline to answre then go ahead.

i do. if, when i was 11, my female maths teacher (mmmm) had asked if i wanted to have sex with her, i'd had been extatic, and said yes. and, to this day, i wouldnt have regretted it. now, imagine if when i was 11 one of my male teachers asked if i wanted sex with him. id have probably said yes out of curiosity, but i believe i would have regretted it afterwards. as an adult i am sure of my attitude towards sex, and am able to tolerate any mistakes that i make. as a kid, i was much less sure about the whole sex thing, and thus more likely to make a mistake - also, any mistake that i made would have been harder for me to deal with, what with not fully understanding the whole sex thing. that is why we protekt kids by dissalowing adults to sleep with them.

in england, the laws of sexual concent were broat in during victorian times, as many men were praying on young women. sure, i bet a few of these girls enjoyed it and didnt suffer any seriouse repercussions from it, but the majority were taken advantage of and did suffer as a result of it, hence the laws. you had sex with a man when you were 11 and you dont regret it - fair enough. to be honest, i know that i wouldnt have regretted it if id had sex with an adult when i was 11. but most childeren do not sexually mature this fast, and in the majority of cases of adult/child 'love', the adult is taking advantage of the child. in japan, they have only very recently broat in anything even resembling a legal age of concent, vis there is now a minimum age a woman must be before she can have sex in return for gifts. this is because buisnismen were renting schoolgirls. this is from a contry which has, traditionally, not had an age of concent. they rationally thought about it and decided that the adults were, in the majority of cases, taking advantage of the child, and that this was detrimental to the child.

yes, but i trust the people her to be sencible and not just go "yeah, microwave ammonium nitrate - ittl be funny' (dont do it kids, youll die)

i had to do this reasently, and i think i may have done it a long winded way. basically, i had a list of the products of a quadratic exuasion for variouse numbers. what i did, was i terated two of them like a simultaniose equasion, ie 16a+4b+c=20 4a+2b+c=15 then jiggery-pokeried them untill there was only one equasion (times bottom by two; subtract bottom from top) 8a-c=-10 then i did the same with two different quads, to get another xa + yc = z term. then i treated both the terms as simultaniouse equasions, so that i could work out a term, and then substituted them back into the equsions to work out the other terms. it took ages. is there a quicker (simple) way to do this? bare in mind its been quite a while since iv done advanced maths, so if your replys go along the lines of 'capsised M, funny s 7 arrow 2 wibbly line (3 * (square root of a ternip)) times ((wibbley line) arrow with the word 'series o --> drunk 8' on it [pie (mmm, pie) times by the number of letters in the current day]) divided by [greekletterchi]9, then im not likely to know what your talking about.

this ones been talked about recently on this site, but it was quite fun to do so thought id post it here. no cheating from anyone whos seen it in the 'general discussions' thread (only 40 people have, so it should be ok to post this here). (70406535) (6825358770) (23136720258287) (175202) (70406535) (15026273520253570) (40673542535) (26236742535582) (735202582) (447175202535). (7040636787) (36787) (150106175175490) above is a message. the question is, how would azurephoenix wright her name in the above code?

this site might help you once youv gotten some letters, ie once you have some semi-complete words.

just to completely trounce the code, i'll even do the math bit code value:letter:postion in alphabet(x) 735:A:1 682:B:2 582: D :4 535:E:5 490:F:6 406:H:7 367:I:9 262:L:12 202:N:14 175:O:15 150:P:16 106:R:18 87:S:19 70:T:20 42:V:22 ok, so its quadratic: ax^2 + bx + c = y taking A (which should = 1) and B (which should = 2) gives a + b + c = 735 4a + 2b + c = 682 divide second by 2 to get a + b + c = 735 2a + b + 1/2c = 341 take second from first to get 1/2c -a = 394 now take D(which should be 4) and F(which should be 6) to get 16a + 4b + c = 582 36a + 6b + c = 490 times top by 3 and bottom by 2 to get 48a + 12b + 3c = 1746 72a + 12b + 2c = 980 take second from first to get -24a + c = 766 put the two equasions together to get 1/2c -a = 394 c - 24a = 766 times top by 2 to get c -2a = 788 c - 24a = 766 take first from second to get -22a = -22 times by -1 and divide by 22 to get a = 1 so, using the first dedused equasion c -2a = 788 becomes c - 2 = 788 add 2 c = 790 now take A again a + b + c = 735 becomes 1 + b + 790 = 735 subtract 791 b = -56 so, the quadratic is x^2 - 56x + 790 = y where x = letters position in alphabet, and y = number that it is assighned in the code. test: Vs position in alphabet is 22, and its code is 42. x^2 - 56x + 790 = y = 42 22^2 - (56*22) + 790 = y = 42 484 -1232 + 790 = y = 42 42 = y = 42 yeah, suck that code! i beat u

the sex drive is the most powerful drive a human can experience, i believe. imagine how hard you would find it if someone could convince you that having sex with fully grown men/women was immoral, and so you had to ignore your sexual desires. i think we should lower a convicted paedophiles sex drive, using drugs or removal of the testicles, so that they have more chance of ignoring their sex drive. and maybe promote the idea that being sexually attrakted to kids is ok, but actually having sex with them is not. that way, a paedophile could come forward for help before he has commited a crime. whereas now, paedophilic tendancys would be treated the same as actually having commited the crime by most. if we could promote the attitude "oh, your attracted to kids - harsh. that must suck for you. well, good man to risist your urges" then maybe more people would get help and thus less people would offend.

how about, "here, have this jay. now, if you concentrate ill give you this packet of wotzits" theres your motivation

im well with you, callapogouse, on the 'school should not encroach on your private life' stance. when i was at school, i hated the fact that they had regulations on what kind of hair cuts we could have. school uniform, fair enough, that can be taken off when you get home - but by dictating my hair cut, they were dictating how my hair should be both in and out of school, which i thought suked. but homework is, unfortunately, nessesary. to effefctively teach most. if your smart enough to not need to do homework, then you should be smart enough to figure how to avoid getting into trouble for not doing your homework - so even if, say, your bio homework doesnt teach you any biology, it will still teach you useful skills, ie lying, on-the-spot excuse generation, forgery, analysis and circumvention of systems all skils which i learnt in school, and have served me well.

THIS WAS FUN TO BREAK, SO IV REPOSTED THE CODE IN THE BRAINTEASERS FORUM. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SOLVE IT FOR THEMSELVES SHOULD NOT READ THIS POST OR THE NEXT ONE lol, i always wanted to be a spy when i was a kid, so i recon i could give this code breaking malakay a go. i hope, by your mentioning of the word 'quadratic' and 'maths teacher', your not expecting me to use maths tho. im gonna rite everystep so i can cum bak and change it if its wrong and so u can see how it was done, just skip to the end for the answre if thats all your after. (70406535) (6825358770) (23136720258287) (175202) (70406535) (15026273520253570) (40673542535) (26236742535582) (735202582) (447175202535). (7040636787) (36787) (150106175175490). -------------------------------------------------------------------- look for common repititions and seperate them out. eg, 202 occour alot and 02 and/or 20 dont occour atall outside of 202, so assume that 202 is one letter. this gives (70406535) (6825358770) (231367 202 58287) (175 202) (70406535) (150262735 202 53570) (40673542535) (26236742535582) (735 202 582) (447175 202 535). (7040636787) (36787) (150106175175490). letters:202 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- note word four has been split into 175 202. a chek reveals that there are no 17s or 75s outside 175, so assume that 175 is a letter to get (70406535) (6825358770) (231367 202 58287) (175 202) (70406535) (150262735 202 53570) (40673542535) (26236742535582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (7040636787) (36787) (150106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- this now isolates two interesting triplets: 535 and 735. note that every time 35 occours, it is preceded by either 5 or 7 (note that it is not correct to assume that all numbers are represented as triplets, as not all words contain a number of numbers that is divisible by three). so treating 535 and 735 as letters gives (70406 535) (682 535 8770) (231367 202 58287) (175 202) (70406 535) (150262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (26236742 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (7040636787) (36787) (150106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 --------------------------------------------------------------------- hmm. words one and five start with 70406 and end with 535. word 11 starts with 70406, and ends with 36787 -- which is what word 12 is. this makes 70406 a likely candidate for TH, 535 a likely candidate for E, and 36787 a likely candidate for IS (the only 2-letter word i can think of that can be put on the end of TH to make a word), so: (70406 535) (682 535 8770) (231367 202 58287) (175 202) (70406 535) (150262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (26236742 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (70406 36787) (36787) (150106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 (E?) 70406 (TH?) 36787 (IS?) ------------------------------------------------------------------- if 70406 is two letters (which seems likely, as its probably TH, plus its alot longer than the other codes), a reasanoble split would be 70 406, as 70 has already been isolated on the end of word six, and 406 at the beginning of word seven (70 406 535) (682 535 87 70) (231367 202 58287) (175 202) (70 406 535) (150262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (26236742 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (70 406 36787) (36787) (150106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 (E?) 70 (T?) 406 (H?) 36787 (IS?) --------------------------------------------------------------------- 150, 262, 367 and 87 can also be isolated (70 406 535) (682 535 87 70) (231 367 202 582 87) (175 202) (70 406 535) (150 262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (262 36742 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (70 406 367 87) (367 87) (150 106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 (E?) 70 (T?) 406 (H?) 367 (I?) 87 (S?) 150 262 -------------------------------------------------------------------- this leaves us with the following terms, in bold, which we are not sure about (70 406 535) (682 535 87 70) (231 367 202 582 87) (175 202) (70 406 535) (150 262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (262 367 42 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (70 406 367 87) (367 87) (150 106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 (E?) 70 (T?) 406 (H?) 367 (I?) 87 (S?) 150 262 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ well, 582 and 682 both end the same, so we dont know wether its 682 and 582, or 6 5 and 82, so we will use a cryptographical technique known as 'ignoring them'. likewize, 447 and 490 get ignored for now as, with only one occourance of each, it is inposible to know wether they are one, two or three words. we canot tell where the split in 231367 comes, so sod it for now. (70 406 535) (682 535 87 70) (231 367 202 582 87) (175 202) (70 406 535) (150 262 735 202 535 70) (406 735 42 535) (262 367 42 535 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 535). (70 406 367 87) (367 87) (150 106 175 175 490). letters: 202 175 735 535 (E?) 70 (T?) 406 (H?) 367 (I?) 87 (S?) 150 262 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ok, onto stage two - working out what the actual numbers mean. count up the occourances of the letters in the code to get their frequencies, useful cos most frequent usually = E. also note double-letters, and if any letter usually follows another, as these can be useful.. also note that a two letter word is formed by 175 and 202, thus one of them must be a vowel; same with 367-87 letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5.........................(vowel?) 175:..............4..................(double letter)(vowel?) 735:.............3 535:..............7(E?)(most common)(follows 70 406 alot)(never starts a word) 70:................5...................(T?)(followed by 406 alot) 406:..............4.................(H?)(preceded by 70 lot) 367:..............4.................(I?)(forms 2 letter word with 87, thus 87:................4................(S?)either 367 or 87 = vowel)(3/4 end a word) 150:.............2...................(both start words) 262:.............2 either 202 or 175 = vowel either 367 or 87 = vowel lets go ahead and assume that 535 = E, as there seems to be a lot of indicators that this is the case (bold still = undecided numbers) (70 406 e) (682 e 87 70) (231 367 202 582 87) (175 202) (70 406 e) (150 262 735 202 e 70) (406 735 42 e) (262 367 42 e 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 e). (70 406 367 87) (367 87) (150 106 175 175 490). ---------------------------------------------------------------- cleaning up our table of info gives letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5........................(vowel?) 175:.............4.............(double letter)(vowel?) 735:.............3 535:.............7..........................E 70:.............5.............(T?)(followed by 406 alot) 406:.............4.............(H?)(preceded by 70 lot) 367:.............4.............(I?)(forms 2 letter word with 87, thus 87:.............4.............(S?)either 367 or 87 = vowel)(3/4 end a word) 150:.............2.............(both start words) 262:.............2 either 202 or 175 = vowel either 367 or 87 = vowel now lets assume, du to the fact that they start off a three letter word that ends with e twice and are found together 3/4 times that 406 occours, that 70 = t and 406 = h (t h e) (682 e 87 t) (231 367 202 582 87) (175 202) (t h e) (150 262 735 202 e t) (h 735 42 e) (262 367 42 e 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 e). (t h 367 87) (367 87) (150 106 175 175 490). --------------------------------------------------------------------- letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5..........................(vowel?) 175:.............4.............(double letter)(vowel?) 735:.............3 535:.............7...............................E 70:..............5.............................T 406:.............4.............................H 367:.............4....................(I?)(forms 2 letter word with 87, thus 87:.............4......................(S?)either 367 or 87 = vowel)(3/4 end a word) 150:.............2.................(both start words) 262:.............2 either 202 or 175 = vowel either 367 or 87 = vowel checking this list of two letter words confirms that 'is' is the only two letter word that can complete the word T H x y, so accept that 367 = i and 87 = s (t h e) (682 e s t) (231 i 202 582 s) (175 202) (t h e) (150 262 735 202 e t) (h 735 42 e) (262 i 42 e 582) (735 202 582) (447 175 202 e). (t h i s) (i s) (150 106 175 175 490). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- checking the last reference again, and ignoring two letter words that contain t,h,e,i or s (as we already have assighned them), and all the two letter words that mean egyptian god etc and the ones that dont make sence followed by 'the', then 175 202 can = go, of, on, or, up letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5.............(vowel?)(o,f,n,r or p) 175:.............4.......(double letter)(vowel?)(g,o or u) 735:.............3 535:.............7................................E 70:...............5..............................T 406:.............4..............................H 367:.............4...............................I 87:...............4..............................S 150:.............2.................(both start words) 262:.............2 either 202 or 175 = vowel 175 202 can = go, of, on, or, up note that 175 = g, o or u, and also that it exists as a double letter. as gg and uu are very uncommon, we can tell that 175 = o (told you that noting repititions would come in useful ) letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5..........................(f,n or r) 175:.............4..............................O 735:.............3 535:.............7...............................E 70:...............5..............................T 406:.............4.............................H 367:.............4.............................I 87:.............4..............................S 150:.............2.............(both start words) 262:.............2 175 202 can = of, on, or (t h e) (682 e s t) (231 i 202 582 s) (o 202) (t h e) (150 262 735 202 e t) (h 735 42 e) (262 i 42 e 582) (735 202 582) (447 o 202 e). (t h i s) (i s) (150 106 o o 490). -------------------------------------------------------------------- letters: occourances: notes: 202:.............5..........................(f,n or r) 175:.............4..............................O 735:.............3 535:.............7...............................E 70:...............5..............................T 406:.............4.............................H 367:.............4.............................I 87:.............4..............................S 150:.............2.............(both start words) 262:.............2 175 202 can = of, on, or now examine word ten, "447 o 202 e". we know that 202 = f, n or r, so word ten = -ofe, -one, or -ore. by asessing their suitibility simply by going "aofe: no, bofe:no cone:yes etc), we get the following possibilities for word ten:cofe, bone, cone, done, gone, hone, lone, zone, bore, core, gore, lore, more, pore; which is absolutely no use at the moment but could be useful later. also, word 7 has an h. hs are always followed by a vowel other than y, and as we have used up e,i and o, 735 = a or u. now i admit that this is branching off a little into non-standard-cryptography, but using this site we can assume for the moment that a logical completion to the phrase "this is **oo*", is "this is proof", and "h**e" is have. this turns "150 262 735 202 e t" into "p 262 a 202 e t" which, using the same site, gives either planet or placet. ill chose planet. this gives (t h e) (682 e s t) (231 i 202 582 s) (o 202) (t h e) (p l a n e t) (h a v e) (262 i 42 e 582) (735 202 582) (447 o 202 e). (t h i s) (i s) (p r o o f). i know that step was a bit dodgy, but it seems to make sence so far --------------------------------------------------------------------- now our table reads 202: N 175: O 735: A 535: E 70: T 406: H 367: I 87: S 150: P 262: L 42: V 106: R 490: F now to sub newly defined numbers in: (t h e) (682 e s t) (231 i n 582 s) (o n) (t h e) (p l a n e t) (h a v e) (l i v e 582) (a n 582) (447 o n e). (t h i s) (i s) (p r o o f). horray! tho i non-cryptographically 'solved' words 6, 7 and 13, the results of substituting letters --> numbers in the other words seems to make sence. huzza! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- note that words 8 and 9 are almost complete, bar the last letter, and also that this last letter is the same. using the crossword completer, the only viable single word that will complete both live- and an- is, rather obviously (but its worth checking), 'd' so 582 = d. 202: N 175: O 735: A 535: E 70: T 406: H 367: I 87: S 150: P 262: L 42: V 106: R 490: F 582: D now to sub newly defined number in: (t h e) (682 e s t) (231 i n d s) (o n) (t h e) (p l a n e t) (h a v e) (l i v e d) (a n d) (447 o n e). (t h i s) (i s) (p r o o f). the remaining numbers are all different, and so the letters must be too. so the phrase reads The best minds on our planet have lived and gone. This is proof. dont savvy why thats proof, but there u go. PHEW! yay! i did it eat your heart out MI6, it took me f***ing ages, but i finally did it alri-ight, alri-ight, wahoo! IN YOUR FACE CODE, I BROKE YOU MWAHAHA, do do, do do, do - HEY, adodo do do, do - HAY yay

having said that, of all the drugs that i have observed cause problems, cannabis is aruably the one with the least associated problems, if you ignore lung-cancer (which inhaled THC and/or cannibinols(CBNs) and cannibinoids (CBDs) would) i still think that any psycological disorders shout be treated wuthout resorting to drugs if possible. i think the govorments mantra of "drugs are bad - say NO to drugs" is most correct when applied to clinical psycaiatrists/psycologists