Dak

for the last time, if you actually read my post before hitting quote, youll be able to understand it. for a start, the quotes will be left in so that you will be able to see what my comments are referring to. ignoring most of the blatant shite in your post that has either already been adressed or is inherantly invalid: no, that is precisely why it is not an issue here. "hey guys, no phisical abuse took place -- the non-existant phisical abuse is therefore inportant" my oppinion differs. i think it is dishonest to euphamise, which is what i was avoiding doing. "it was psycological torture, but it was justified for x reason(s)" would be perfectly acceptable to me. "it wasnt psycological torture, it was 'intel given under duress', so thats fine" is not IMO. anyway, thats a purely sematic argument, which are generally pointless in the middle of a debate. again with the assumptions. and again with the innacuracy. im one of the coldest, unemotionaly analytical people i know when im thinking about things (eg, wether the treatment of the detainees is justified or not), so the assumption that id even bring emotion into the equasion, as something to base my oppinions on or as an appeal to emotion, is wrong. but hey, it seems fun. i think ill give the wild and unsuported accusations malarkay a go. you took my quote wildly out of context -- again! bad revperz. NAUGHTY REVPREZ!!! stop it. it wasnt nessesary to, given the nature of that conjecture. did you notice the clauses? 'if it is true' springs to mind.

nice workaround.

maybe the teacher is genuinely booring. in that case, give him drugs: that should make the lessons more interesting. Or maybe, like me, you find english lessons terminally booring, in which case i always found that alcohol helped (although admittedly not with paying attention). why do you feel so strongly that drugs are the answre. dig your heels in, forse yourself to take notes, and study after school. theres no majic drug which will make the info soak into your brain and stay there on the first attempt, and as far as i know, whilst there are a great many drugs which will make even english lessons interesting, none of them are legal, or particulaly good for you in the long term. sorry.

but, with no cash incentive, will they bother. rape and violence are non-cash motivated, and so would still exist in a technocracy. i suspect that the above account for a significant amount of crime, so police would still be needed (although i admit that the economic tinkering could possibly lower crime rates).

i believe that i said that your arguments were bad reasoning... and as phil said, science is testable. the offer is still there to discuss your ideas in more depth, or any aspects/assumptions of evolutionary theory if youd like, but i sujjest that we take it one or two ideas at a time, so that we can properly disect and discuss them.

that'd be groovy! i previously spent ages looking for a work-around along the lines of atm's idea, but it seems that you have all common words covered, so you cant, for example, search for all posts from today and yesterday which contain a full stop or the word 'post' etc. just out of sheer curiosity, why are common words and empty search-fields disallowed? is it to stop search-spamming/search-flooding? [edit] hang on, i was playing about with google, along the lines of "today|yesterday inurl:showthread site:www.scienceforums.net", and i found this result http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:ku7ysEdRapUJ:www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php%3Fgoto%3Dlastpost%26t%3D11922+today%7Cyesterday+inurl:showthread+site:www.scienceforums.net&hl=en&client=firefox-a whats up with that? it has a 'todays post' link up the top, which seems to work? [/edit]

thats cool, i can hardly complain considering how oftern i do it. tbh, i thought it was a subtle jibe at the fact that iv been misspelling guantamolano throughought this thread. for atleast the initial part of their detention, the detainees were not considered criminals by the us govournment 1 exept for the psycological torture. actually, i asked for clarification of the legal aspects, which you and atm provided. my first actual argument started off with a dismissal of the relevance of the legal issues2.

ahh, but you forget that if you can access an administrator account, then you can give your own account administrator privelages

There is already a thread on the subject of a SFN tutorial thingumy: pluggety plug-plug, McPlug plugey plug.

it wasnt intended as an attempt to bring patriotism into the mix... it was intended as 'please make sure that your not just thinking "aah, its ok: they're only terrorists" ' (not aimed at anyone in particular) do you know of any specific cases where americans/british have been treated in the same manner in which the 'bay detainees were treated?

dunno... the reg entry, if it exists, might just be an indicator, or there might be systems in place on an XP machine to stop the reg entry being changed from 'user' to 'admin'... and dont forget that were talking of a system were you can bypass someone elses password by loging on as another user, turning on show... well, im sure you know how to do it and im not going to give detailed instructions just in case anyone reading this hasnt figured it out, but it really wouldnt surprise me if it was just a reg entry. (theres another, easy way to upgrade yourself to an admin account using the F8 key, so XP, as shipped, isnt that secure against people with phisical access to the machine anyway) all of which is a cows oppinion. either the reg key doesnt exist, or we dont know what it is. either way, my plan is redused to poopness.

phisical abuse is not the issue here. psycological abuse is. it does the US credit that they attempted to forse the info out of the detainees without resorting to phisical torture' date=' but there is still the possibility that the psycological duress under which they put the detainees is unnaceptable. well, i get the feeling that others would be less inclined to refrain from hypocracy than you are, and would start screeming about how inhumanely the terrorists treated our soldures were they to do this. put it down to my cynacysm in the human race if you disagree. [/edit]

me either... and trying to google "reg key administrator privellage" just brings up about a squillion results to do with non-related reg keys on sites that happen to remind you that you need administrator privellages to access regedit. yes, but were not talking about an XP user, were talking about an ME user: its unlikely that ME will attempt to stop him adding a reg entry that has absolutely no relevence to the ME OS (except possibly allowing him to install the game). the fact that the install program referenses administrator privellages makes me think that its coded to check for user status (the ME OS wouldnt mention the admin privvelages, what with ME not being aware of them)... it should be relatively simple to trick the install exe (if we knew how). although id reccomend setting up a restore point and backing up the reg before trying any cunning jiggery-pokery. Like i said, if this prog isnt desighned for ME it might break it (ME)

how does it check if the system has admin status? could you trick it into installing by adding a reg entry (summit like HKCU/blah/blah/blah/UserAccountType=administrator). of course, this could possibly bugger your system up a bit, and/or the game may not work at all on ME even if you get it to install.

my point was thus: Imagine the terrorists captured some us/uk troops. imagine that they attempted to extract intelligence from them BUT that they said "we respect the human rights of the soldures. we will, therefore, treat them in a way which is an acceptable compromise between our need for intel and there human rights" and then used the same techniques that america used in guantanomalo. What options would that leave us in the us/uk? I feel that, by our actions, we have condoned this course of action and would therefore have no option but to acknowledge that it would be acceptable for the terrorists to do this to our soldures in time of war -- and if it were done, then we could not say anything other than the terrorists respect for the human rights of their captives does them credit (we certainly could not condone their cruel treatment of our soldures). Put simply: if they do this to us, then our preceedent will mean that they are unquestionably (from a political POV) acting humanitarianly towards their captives. I just wonder, were the terrorists to capture our troops and treat them in this manner, wether all of the people who are currently supporting the prisoners treatment in guantamolano would be willing to quietly acknowledge the terrorists humanitarian treatment of our troops, and perhaps give a respectful nod of thanks in their direction for there willingness to respect human rights in a time of war? If anyone answers no to the above, then i think that they should seriously rethink their stance untill they descide either that its acceptable to treat soldures (both ours and their's) in this manner, or that its not acceptable to treat soldures (both ours and theres) in this manner. Personally i think no. by sighning the geneva convention, the us has acknowledged the truth of the spirit of the geneva convention -- the relevant bit in this case being the bit that says that soldures should not be subjected to torture in order to extricate intelligence. the us has contravened the spirit of the geneva convention by acting the way that it did; although, to its credit, the nature of the torture was an attempt to torture without violating human rights and being too nasty (an attempt which i feel has failed).

In my experience, the fancy bits on fantacy swords (spikes, protrusions, decor etc) pretty much ruin the function. they catch on things, ruin the weight balance, throw the blade wildly about if you use it to block, and would jam the blade if you ever used it against someone (ie, sword would go in but not come out; sword would snag whilst cutting etc). if you want an interesting sword, the chinese hook/eagle/claw swords can look pretty cool and wierd and also actually work. although personally, nothing is as orgasm-indusing as a simple katana-style blade (or a bokken for that matter -- im getting a mahogany one soon )

i used to go out with someone who had sever panic attacks (which is what this sounds like), and am still friends with her. she's great, and very happy in life, and arguably one of the most overall mentally balanced people i know. I also know a few other people with mental problems who do fine in life. basically, what im trying to say is that things like this can have a severe impact on ones life, but that doesnt nessesaraly mean that you cant have a very happy and sucsessful life, which are the most inportant things. Id echo phi and atm's advice -- see a psycologist for psycological help, or go to one of the support groups to seek others like you who can help with advice -- but remember that emotional support comes primeraly from friends and family. and remember that coping with ocd is something that you have to do yourself -- others can help, but ultimately its you who will be coping with it.

apparently, theres one which can effectively screw your CMOS (not bios, the actual CMOS itself) and can sometimes take the mobo with it1

From Basic concepts of molecular evolution, by Anne-Mieke Vandamme (pdf) Basically, the frame-shift caused by indels is so profound that the gene product is completely changed; if the gene was a vital one, then its function will be lost and the cell will be non-viable (ie it will die). Thats how the body keeps its number of indels in functioning regions of dna low. redundancy would probably allow a gene product to survive an indel event. In addition, there are a variety of ways in which the genome can be repaired if an indel event occoures during DNA replication. presumably by the exsicion-repair mechanism would recognise the indel in the new strand, as the indel would likely cause a warping in the double helix (as one strand would have an extra nucleotide): more about dna proof-reading is here (scroll down to the highlighted bits) If an indel event occours in a coding region outside of DNA synthesys -- which is relatively unlikely -- i think its just a case of whats called masterly inaction*: 'if the cell can survive the indel, then it will, and its not a problem: else, it will die, and the problem will have gone away'. Although it appears that this approach is not 100% effective, and can cause genetic defects1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *masterly inaction: the act of cunningly desciding to solve a problem by doing absolutely nothing at all about it. not to be confused with lazyness, which is superficially similar but rarely actually solves the problem, whereas masterly inaction does.

Only with firefox: well, actually with many programs but only when firefox is also running. I assumed it was because firefox is the meatiest program that i run. Another thing that i noticed is that, if i look at firefox.exe in the taskmanager, its memory usage keeps climbing higher and higher: is that a memory leak? Its been getting much worse later by-the-way. Iv uninstalled the gmail notifyer (which i couldnt get to work) and k-melion, which i installed around-about the time that the problems started, so that may help...

legal or not, is it acceptable on moral grounds? mental torture is still pretty nasty to have to endure, and theres always the possiblity that the detainees are not forthcoming with information for the simple reason that they have none (or even that they werent terrorists in the first plase) Is there any way in which an american (or british) soldure could be captured and treated in the same manner as the guantanamo detainees, with the captees justifying it in the same way america (or britain) has? I wonder wether that would be viewed as fair?