Raider5678

I like articulate planning, which is one of the reasons I'd be willing to take the risk of dropping out of high school. Even to me the idea sounds risky, and I understand full and well that for a period of time, a GED is going to seem worse then a high school diploma. That being said, I know what online college I'd attend, I know which credits I'd go for, I know exactly how much they cost and I also know that with the money I've been saving up for years, I could afford it as well. The in between step is figuring out if the better option is waiting 1.5 years for high school to end, or getting my GED and going ahead to do it now. I don't see high school as work. I've never struggled with school that I can remember. I don't remember spending hours studying, I remember doing brief reviews of things I already knew. It's not that I'm not willing to do the "god damned work" to get that piece of paper, it's deciding if waiting patiently is the better option. The option to get a GED wasn't available until I turned 16 and my school counselor suggested the option. That was in October. I've thought for quite a while about what my motives are, and it's not to avoid work. I have a plan, I've done my research, and now it's weighing the pros and cons of either option. As of now, the major cons to doing this are more then the pro's, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll outweigh each other. Specifically, focusing on me dropping out. I don't think even you think I would have made a bad decision if I drop out, get my GED, and then get my college degree. Your concern is that I won't follow through. So, building off of that. If I drop out to get my GED, several consequences would be: I wouldn't get to experience as much of a youth "social life." (Migl) It doesn't look as good on my resume until I get a college degree.(Basically everyone) There is a chance I'll get caught up in work or something and not get my GED.(iNow) There is a chance I won't pursue a college education for various reasons, even if I do get my GED.(iNow) I won't get to experience as many options in terms of careers.(OldChem) There are very few benefits to getting a GED instead of a Diploma. Several benefits if I successfully get my GED would be: I would save 1.5 years of my life that I don't feel like I wasted sitting through classes for 8 hours a day that I don't learn from. I could save basically an entire year and a half of income from my full time job because I no longer have to go to school. Significant amount of money to start with. And a benefit if I get my college degree in the time frame as well would be: I get a college degree much sooner then my peers, when they all start graduating high school. 'm already slated to graduate a year early, this would essentially increase that gap by 1.5 years, meaning I have a 2.5 year advantage on my peers. So, assuming I kept with the time frame, I could have a college degree by the time they have a high school diploma, giving me a competitive edge in terms of getting a job.

And this is the major type of anti dropping out argument I'd like to explore. Is the stigma against a GED worth taking on in exchange for an additional 1.5 years of going to college early and having a full time job? Obviously, I'm assuming your answer is no.

I've spent hours probably amounting to months of time simple researching things, studying them, and learning. Space, Engineering, Physics, Math, History, Politics, Psychology, and more. I can't help but think back to the people who told me I should spend less time doing that and spend more time making friends, experiencing and enjoying life, and doing fun things. All that studying though allowed me to have opportunities that were unheard of in my small town. It allowed me to travel the country, to speak Nasa engineers, to get high paying jobs outside of the typical job that people in my area get, and more. I make more part time (about 16 hours a week) then most people in my valley make working full time, and I can attribute almost all of that to, in other people's words, "Throwing away my child hood" spending it on stupid things such as learning how to computer program, not in just one language, but 4 of them. I ignored that advice at the time and I'm extremely pleased with the position I'm in now and the people who told me I was wasting my time are pushing their kids to do what I did in the hopes that maybe their kids won't be stuck with the same types of jobs they're stuck with 40 years down the line. I'm lucky enough to have been able to pick which job offer I wanted. I love my job, and most of the people in my valley live for the weekends. I can't help envision a similar scenario here. I'm not saying you made bad choices when you were young, but I am saying that I don't think we'd enjoy the same experiences. Additionally, everything I've learned has helped shape me into who I am today, and I truly believe that differing experiences don't automatically yield better or worse outcomes. Maybe your social life experiences yielded good outcomes. But my anti-social life experiences have yielded good outcomes in my opinion as well.

Frankly, I can't argue against that. That being said, I've enjoyed working more then I've enjoyed high school. Correct. Maybe I should have put a poll.

Most of your post is positioned around this statement, so I'll address this. I feel as though there is a major difference between dropping out of high school because I don't want to stick it out, as compared to dropping out of high school, getting a GED and a full time job, and then pursuing a college degree. I don't see how these things are equated. Additionally, it's not as though I decided to start high school and then quit because it got boring. I had literally no choice in the matter. There's not a lot of information my high school is offering. Hence the point of me wishing to accelerate my learning. If you're talking about cultural, then I fail to see the benefit of joining the group of students constantly looking to bang someone, or the other idiots who are pursuing drugs, or the students who only put value in sports, or the kids who spend all their time on social media and focusing on their appearance. Culturally, I'm not seeing a lot of appealing experiences I'd like to have. If my brain is still evolving I'd rather it evolve around me taking on challenging tasks and learning new things, as compared to sitting in class listening to a teacher who doesn't know what he's talking about because he's high on pot. Yes, I had a teacher who did this for a year until they finally let him go because enough parents complained. Speaks to the quality of my school. Additionally, if I don't know what I want to do in life, staying in high school seems like a counter intuitive approach. My school doesn't offer much in terms of extra curricular. If I get to spend an additional 1.5 years finding what I want to do in life instead of sitting in high school, I can figure out what I do/don't want to do much faster. So social life above education? Really?

I'm leaning further towards dropping out and getting my GED, but not nearly as far as I was leaning at the beginning of the discussion.

That's anecdotal evidence however. I know three other people in my church who dropped out to get their GED. One is a software engineer, one is the owner of a small company, and the other is a doctor. Surely however, we can both agree what happens to some doesn't automatically say what's going to happen to me if I choose this option.

If I'm perusing a college degree immediately afterward, wouldn't I have a college degree a year and a half before any of my other peers though? I felt as though a college degree would over shadow a GED instead of a high school diploma.

You can't drop out of high school without parental permission. I don't think so at least. The main question is if saving a year and a half is worth the risk of me dropping out of high school and getting a GED.

You're assuming the only possible thing I can put on my resume is my high school diploma/GED. I've worked at three different companies/jobs, every single one of which was happy to give me a good reference in terms of my work ethic, etc, when I decided to move on. I've consistently had a part time job since I was 12, actually, where I started working on a farm. I've taken part in national debate competitions and engineering competitions after winning local, regional, and state competitions in both to get me there. I even have the Pennsylvania State Director of the YMCA on my resume to give me a reference. If anything, I don't want them calling my high school and asking them for reports on my behavior, I want them calling any of the people/companies I've listed as references. Maybe any of my other references will do the trick. A GED is a one time test. I don't see how it'd be hard to do that and a full time-job. If you're referring to studying for the GED, then please note I'm not going to pursue it unless I get a high score on my schools practice test. As for me leaving the job or the employer disliking me meaning I can't get a reference from them, the same exact thing would apply if I had a high school diploma or a GED. I don't see how this plays into the factor.

I considered this early on, but ultimately I decided that this could be over come in two ways, or both. First of all, on my resume, I could specify that my GED was obtained when I was in 10th grade, hence why I dropped out and didn't get a diploma. I feel like that could remove some of the stigma against a GED. Additionally, if you score high enough on the GED, you can get a GED - College Ready specification, essentially indicating you scored highly on the GED test. Hence why I set those goals on the practice test. The informed decision is part of why I posted this question. Cheers. Parent. Either way, I really doubt that as soon as I get my GED and start working more hours my employer is suddenly going to say "Alright. Cut his pay, immediately." I don't see the logic behind it considering they understand I could quit as well and they want me to move to a different position specifically. Not a promotion, just a different position that they specifically want me in, which gives me even more reason why I don't think they're just going to randomly cut my pay: They want me there. For now at least. Let's say they did just randomly cut my pay. I'd quit. Now I'm 16 years old, with a GED, and without high school, the opportunity to pursue a full time job. Still not a terrible position.

Isn't a GED considered an equivalent to a high school diploma?

I am in no position to afford a physical college. That being said, the plan is that if I can get my GED I'd immediately enroll in online college to focus on two areas of education: Political Science and Computer Science. I'd probably take two classes simultaneously, one in each field, over the next 3-4 years. Additionally, with online college credits, you can take rapidly accelerated classes as well. I've taken a few already offered by my school, and I finished them 4 times faster then they were projected to be, so I'm optimistic that I can do fairly well on that front.

And if they decide to do that, I could quit. Neither I nor they are under any obligation to keep working/not fire the other. I have a 4.11 GPA at the moment, on a 4 point scale, due to advanced courses. I thought about it and thoroughly decided taking additional courses outside of the school is not something I'm interested in perusing.

Hello guys. I'm considering dropping out of high school. It's not because I don't like high school(I thoroughly enjoy it), or because I don't want to do the work, or anything like that. Particularly, I'm not progressing at an acceptable pace in my opinion. It's essentially a social gathering at this point. So recently I've been pondering dropping out of high school in January(The beginning of the 2nd semester), and then taking the test for my GED. Pennsylvania has a requirement that if you want to take the GED test and you're under 18, you can't be enrolled in any high school, and you have to have a letter of request from your current employer. My employer is more then willing to give me a letter of request that I get my GED as I'd be able to accept a position they've been wanting to offer me if I could work a full 40 hours a week. At the moment, I'm in 10th grade. I'm slated to graduate in 11th grade due to taking advanced courses, and the school isn't willing to give me any additional courses to further decrease the time it'd take me to graduate. The school offers GED practice tests, so in a week or so I'm going in to take one of those. If I take that and I score above a 90%(My own personal goal/limit) in at least 3 sections, and no lower then 85% in any of the sections, I'll take that as an indicator that I'll be able to easily pass the GED test which requires around a 75% score to pass(Which is about 50-60% of the questions right, because of the weird scoring. Like math questions are about 1 point each, and reading questions are about .86 or something like that). Assuming I can pass the practice test to the standards I set for myself, are there any major drawbacks to getting my GED instead of sticking with high school for another year and a half?

I'll look into that.

Fair enough. Any other ideas for sub-categories?

If we had a history section, there are a few different sections I feel we could have. The major types of discussions that would be held is how we should organize it in my opinion though. I.E. "What would have happened if X happened" could be covered under alternative history or something like that, because I get the feeling a lot of discussions will be around those guidelines. The subcategories I would have would be: History Alternative History Historical Figures Historical Events Historical Speculation Everything Else This could keep it fairly organized, as compared to time frames simply due to the vast differences in the types of discussions.

Alright.

Being on several other forums, let me point out the political discussion on this site is usually 9/10. A 10/10 being an actual in-person political discussion since I simply enjoy those more. Anyways, I don't suppose you have any news on if we're getting a history section or not?

Ad hominem isn't efficient nor effective, regardless of who it's used against. I don't see them really getting upset at it, rather than like me, simply being confused by it. If you want to do it, sure, go ahead. I just don't understand the motivation behind it. I could see it being changed if it was required, but it being an option didn't force anyone to reveal their gender. And now, if they want to reveal their gender, they simply go to the about me section and type it in, which is again an option. To me it seemed like: "We should probably remove the option to include your gender." "Why? What if I want to?" "Then you can put it in the about me section if you want." I can't help but see a certain inconsistency here. If that still doesn't clear it up, I can break it down into variables: Prior to this change: People have the option to include their gender. After this change: People have the option to include their gender. If that makes sense.

I'm fine with that, as long as it draws in the right people. Do the administrators have anything to say regarding a history forum or should we just continue with this discussion for a while more to get more input?

Which part?

Isn't the melting point of Carbon higher then Magnesium?

*two years later* New topic: choose gender option "Could we have an option to choose our gender on here?" Used a random number generator from 1 to 63. Selected the corresponding one. https://apath.org/63-genders Androgine Female-Attracted Androdite?