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I think it could be a frequency stabilizator

Electric Power transport with a frequency of 60 hz. Electricity has a frequency for transport. The issue is about transporting without loss or less loss of power. I want to keep up the frequency by boosting it each time with 60 hz in a distance. So when the grid has 60 hz, i give 60 hz of boost to give it good flow. So I do not increase the frequency but i boost it with the turning magnet. Example: 1 km power grid has 10 of these "toys" and keep up the energy stable without loss. Each 100m x 10 = 1km Normally the loss of energy is approximately 30%, when you can reduce this, you will earn much money.

Dear people, I need advise on a electro technical issue. Maybe you have already seen this scientific toy, a magnet train: Instead I believe it is not just a toy. The theory When you have a wire, you put current on it, let's say 60 hz/s, it will conduct a frequency of 60hz/s current. When you have a wire bonded with another wire for five rounds, the wire will conduct 60 hz/s, and create electromagnetism of 5hz/s When you have a wire 60 times wrapped it will conduct 60hz/s and create a boost with 60hz/s. The magnet must be set to flow for the time needed to create 60hz/s wen your current is flowing with 60hz. If the current is at 1000 hz/s, then the magnet must be set to take 1000 rounds of bonded wire and so on. Now imagine that an active superconducting can be reached by boosting the grid of power plants with 60hz/s, every second the grid is boosted with these "toys" and the grid is being boosted and kept stable providing less loss of current when transporting power. I really believe this is a simple trick and i am convinced it will work. I know there is a need for a real superconductor and that scientists all over the world are researching a powerful method. Do you think this can work?

thanks everyone, maybe later on a different topic

You are very subjective now. We do not have to agree but I think all information is present at this topic. This topic is nice to read for beginners, seniors and even for the retards. Because the elements are described and a scientific approach is argued. With new things to discuss.

I am not the person who sets science. But i am not the person who Always accepts things like scientist believe. So in my opinion every new approach should have to be researched before you can deny the hypothesis.

Yeah indeed i had read that before somewhere. Maybe things change fast . I think Wikipedia. But to come to the point, when an air ionizer is used, oxygen will ionize. If the molecule is h2o gas in the air. I thought only oxygen would ionize. There are different types of ionizators and the needle is of different material for types of atoms. Still both atoms are different, so you would expect that one of them ionizes first. Oxygen is +/- 15 timesbigger in structure than hydrogen. If it is true that all atoms must become ionized, then my method will not work. Because I thought when you ionize the oxygen, it will not freeze and the hydrogen atoms would freeze after a while, under circumstances, maybe very cold, colder then now possible.

you metion that when an ionizator ionizes a molecule containing oxygen atoms, all atoms are ionized. But the rule is, only oxygen atoms can be ionized, with the technology nowadays.

- ions cannot freeze, conclusion. Perhaps.

so it will not freeze? How can a polar molecule h2o freeze then? It is really complicated like this. So a molecule in a refrigrator, an ionized molecule,for example -1000 Celsius, will not reach his boiling point?

"If you have water molecule in gaseous state, after heating it significantly, you will turn it to gaseous hydrogen and gaseous oxygen, after heating it even more, you will turn them to hydrogen plasma and oxygen plasma state." ok it becomes liquid again and becomes solid later on, thanks. Still i have no answer to the ionization issue of the molecule in gas state, for example h2o in gas state. When you ionize the oxygen atom and freeze the molecule rapidly it will become liquid you say. So no other phenomenon will occur, i doubt it is the same. The ionization process activates the elektrons and the elektrons activate the protons, so maybe a different liquid form will be gained, like rainwater and damp visible for the human eye. I understand that at the boiling point all atoms reach a point of changing. For myself i can imagine that the force needed, the temperature needed to reach this point, can change when oxygen atoms are ionized with a ionisator. Maybe you just need -100 refrigator instead of -300 for example.

Yes and there we come to a much difficult era. Because when molecules become hard, solid, are all atoms frozen, solid? > for gases

i do not think everyone understands the question, what is mentioned. I really repeated several times. It is now step by step: the point now is, will they freeze at the same time. The other splitting issue is different i agree.

in gas state oxygen atoms can be ionized with a ionisator

And when they are already fused, in molecular state like h2o in gas state, do they freeze together, or one by one. Then the question arises what if I ionize the oxygen atom to prevent it from freezing, because activating the atom, will activate the protons too I think, because of the balance of the atom.

So in your opinion, when water freezes at 0 degree, oxygen and hydrogen atoms have reached their frozen state? What if at different degree for example 10 degrees oxygen already gets frozen and the hydrogen has to freeze, or when you try to block the freezing process by activating the oxygen atom by ionizing. if at different degree for example 10 degrees oxygen already gets frozen and the hydrogen has to freeze, or when you try to block the freezing process by activating the oxygen atom by ionizing.

I think I have a better method for splitting atoms, by heating then freezing them, and ionizing the oxygen atom in opposite pole to slow down the freezing process of a single atom. that is why it is important for me to know if both atoms freeze at the same time, when we speak about a molecule. I will sleep now too, till tomorrow.

"The freezing point of sodium chloride is very different from the freezing point of water" This is exactly what I mention. the freezing point is different and when you freeze h20 in gas state then I think oxygen and hydrogen will not freeze at the same time. Now my question is can they freeze, i think yes, Sensei has answered that one I think. Because h2o is polar and it can freeze. But when you freeze two atoms of different kind will they freeze at the same time. And will ionization of the oxygen atom with + polarity block the freezing process? Or am I now confused because of water> because freezing water = frozen atoms?

"But water molecule is polar. One side of molecule has different charge than other side. H+ H+ O2-" the molecule is polar, maybe water is not a very good example then . would ionizing the atom while it freezes block the freezing process? I think ionizing it with a + pole would.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-frozen-hydrogen.htm#didyouknowout Like this method maybe, with sth that freezes quickly. or sth like a very cold ice machine or refrigrator. The issue is that two different types of atoms freeze in a very short period. And that one of the atoms must freeze later than the other, what happens then?

"you will turn it to gaseous hydrogen and gaseous oxygen" After this state, the question is then, when you freeze the molecule very quickly, will both kinds of atoms freeze together, or will one freeze first and then wait for the other to freeze. And what about ionization, will a ion freeze? And when one of the atom is frozen, what if you ionize then, will it split or freeze or not? I really have no idea about vacuum and solvent medium, i know the translations what you mean, but I think it is not relevant for my question. I am not sure.

Sorry about my weird language I quess. My english is not very good. They are just ions. The title would be Can ions freeze?

we can use water and then steam with 2 hydrogen and 1 atoms oxygen as example. Addittion: let's take water, heat it. I assume steam or vapour can be ionized because it has oxygen atoms. Let's approve. Then try to freeze the molecules very quickly. Oxygen and hydrogen will not freeze at the same time I think, they have diffferent Fahrenheit of freezing points. What will happen then? Will the not frozen atom wait for the other one, or will they split? And what if we ionize the oxygen then, after one freezes?

I need the answer for this issue because i cannot find it on internet, if this is possible or not. Or the difference between a neutral atom and one that is ionized, about the heating and freezing. The importance is when it should not or there is a difference, then we could ionize oxygen atoms and prevent them from freezing, that would be nice for splitting molecules. When they should freeze, you would say that + and - frozen atoms will attract themselves like a magnet...