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Youre right, I missplaced the word ethinicity I should have used environment instead. I don’t think we did this formally Stringy, I must ask you what pronouns you use, I don’t want to insult you by mistake. Mine are he/him today. I will also inform you what sex I am when this thread runs its course and I finally find out.

So its ok to question my credibility based on my ethnicity but its not ok to point that out? I wish I was a black, transgender woman from Norway right now, it would sure make life easier for me on this site compared to being a white, heterosexual male from Poland. And you know what, thats ok. Stereotypes are an inevitable part of social interaction and I always could laugh about it regardless what side of them I'm on. I'm not taking offence on any of this and most of all, I will not forge this position into an offecive/defencive line of arguing during this discussion. It does make me feel a little sad to see the very people whom I though I provided more than enough evicende over the years for my views and personality to accuse me of homophobia, conspiracy theories, anti vaxx stances. But you know what Phi, thats what ideology and pollitics does to you and while being a little sad I'm not surprised.

You’re so woke and scientifically fashionable that you don’t care, I get it. You probably think its cool or even noble to categorize someone born with a genetic condition as a different sex other than male or female, I get that too. I disagree but I get it.

Really? Category slash Sex? After all these pages and all that has been said you are still not sure what my point of view is? How many times do I need to state that Sex and Category are not interchangeable. You’ve become so sensitive and so saturated with twisted pollitical correctness that you are convinced that categorising someone as one who suffers from a birth defect or a genetic condition instead of „a 3rd Sex” is somehow dehumanizing and deplorable. It’s not. There are 2 sexes in humans and untill evolution changes that, it will stay that way. Various deviations from that fact are what they are - deviations, defects, conditions that people suffer.

The crux here which you either keep omitting on purpose or its eluding you is that all of them are still f…g cars !

Apparently you do need to read through the definitions of the words sex and category. If you have 2 Ford Mustangs and one of them breaks down it doesn’t mean you have a Mustang and a Chevy. You still have 2 Mustangs.

And that 3rd category is not a 3rd sex. FFS!

I refuse to participate in a discussion where a grown educated man asks another grown educated man the difference between the words „sex” and „category”

I like to pride myself that only evidence, rational conclusions and empathy for the weaker are infuencing my position. I've never experienced what you said above, since I can remember I despised people who are hompohobic, I spent many years in my youth making my life as a DJ and I had many gay friends, very good ones, I still keep in touch with a few. Don't measure everyone with your yard stick. We don't talk to each other nor meet for about 4 years now, it wasn't possible to manage out a compromise.

If youre reffering to the "transgender" thread, I've never conceded anything there, that thread showed me how much bias and toxic PC is present on our forum, this thread right here only solidified my observation. - I've never had trouble with anti vaxx stances. I mean I did and I do, my brothers wife is anti vaxx and that is pretty truoblesome and ackward considering we all have children and are the same family. I've never expressed any traces of anti vaxx stances in my life. You seem so deep down the PC rabbit hole of this forum that you've managed to create your own version of me based on your biases which makes me sad because youve always been the wise good guy.

Your insincerity is only topped by your attepmts at manipulation. This is true and its something a lot of people in Poland are ashamed of, including me. I wonder what it has to do with this thread though? If I didn’t know you better Stringy, I would think youre making a swing at me trying to make me look homophopic?

Category Sex Glad I could help.

Keep telling that to yourself along with the notion that the words „sex” and „category” are the same thing.

Theres no point, rational discourse isn’t possible where an allmighty bandwagon is present. If we weren’t able to agree for dozens of pages in this thread that „Category” is not synonymous to „Sex” (essentially for the last 15 pages this is what this thread is) then whats the point, I have 2 choices - turn to sarcasm like I’m doing it in my previous post and take the bandwagon downvotes or withdraw from converstation completely. Don’t worry, the latter is growing on me.

Category, Sex - lets make synonyms of those 2 words and keep on marching the parade. Who cares what words mean anymore.

These are the conclusions he got from reading through this thread, can’t really blame him since people with scientific authority built this view in this thread. The fact that this view is crippled, grotesque and stems from strong political bias is equally scary on a science site which by definition is supposed to be independent and non partisan as it is scary because it so easilly gets to people who seek non biased information from scientific sources. And as a cherry on top, it all happened in the Genetics section.

I'm done here.

Into an anomaly, a deviation from the normal distribution within our species, like any non ideology infatuated person would. And no, it doesn't mean I'm transphobic, homophobic, xenophobic, or whatever other phobic your hand waving instead of clapping marble brain thinks.

Different does not equal to a 3rd sex. Ofcourse theyre different. Your dishonesty in discourse is amazing.

And that category is not a 3rd sex in humans now is it Charony. Just spit it out and say it through the downvotes, the subtle accusations and implications of homophobia, racism, conspiracy theory throughout the previous transgender thread and this one, just please f say it - "Individuals who are e.g. sterile from birth, are intersex or have other deviations from the standard distribution are NOT a 3rd SEX in homosapiens !"

What about a tiger born with 2 legs? Or why aren't you 215cm and 140kg and playing for the NBA?

Oh sure, were all imperfect in various ways. Your argument leads to the conclusion that there are currently 7.7 billion people with different sexes in the homosapiens species living on Earth and counting. I’m sory that youre disappointed that some people suffer from various defects, I’m disappointed too, I’d much prefer that my daughter didn’t have diabetes but the fact that she has that condition (does that sound better than defect?) doesn’t sound „obnoxious” to me.

So youre treating anomalies which the intersex people suffer as additional sexes. I’m trying to let that idiocy sink into my mind and think of something decent to reply to you but only indecent words and sentences come to mind.

To summarize, I think this 42 year old Monty Python clip perfectly sums up both this thread and the previous transgender thread.

In the context of intersex people which this is, maybe anomaly would be a more appropriate term. Also, you do realise that I was quoting iNow not you, right?