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What about them? What part of Mathematics is a tool don't you understand? I asked a question because I don't understand what this means: I still don't get it. Can you explain? Belief, Religion, Emotion, Poetry - mathematics is a tool which doesn't work very well to describe these things.

Today I learned (or rather it struck me) that I see a fundamental difference between western and asian worlds - a „westerner” when sittng on a bench in a park by himself observes whats around him, trees, grass, etc - theres a distinction between „me” and „nature” where the „asian” world see themselves as an intrinsic part of that surrounding nature, it doesn’t surround them - they’re a part of it. I don’t know if I make much sense but there it is.

Yes. Science doesn't know everything so there is "everything to know" (and understand/comprehend) You seem to imply that there is a contradiction between: "Science doesn’t really like impossible, it rather say „I don’t know” where religion/faith/belief does the opposite. Another argument to support the irrationality of having science as your religion" and "There is everything to know" There isn't. I don't follow, can you explain? Have you experienced some kind of enlightenment? Mathematics does not follow "Natural Reality" whatever that is. Mathematics is just a tool (a very powerful one) like a hammer or a screwdriver.

To bring this thread on track as its in the religion section; Science doesn’t really like impossible, it rather say „I don’t know” where religion/faith/belief does the opposite. Another argument to support the irrationality of having science as your religion. ?

I woudln’t throw „impossible” so litely but yes, there are fields on the quantum level so „nothing” is not that simple in nature. In math the concept of zero is clear: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/0 Mathematics is just a very handy tool that we use. Its the language that phycisists and other sxientists use to figure out and convey concepts with. It’s not rational to put math and nature beside each other to compare. Might as well compare the concept of length to tuberculosis - it doesn’t make sense.

Your 1*0=0 is a good example as in nature the concept of nothing (zero) is ambiguous but in math its a simple and a very clear concept.

You’re going to need to cite me to buttress that claim.

Your clumsy attempts at straw man to bring me off ballance certainly are not something that I will fall for.

My moral and ethical code of conduct is disrespected by every post you write in this thread. I expect respect, rationality, evidence based statements and coherence from you and Im not getting that. Being respectful to religious beliefs creates a safe space for people who want to do harm based on their faith. There is no virtue in saying that you believe something because you believe something, especialy when its fallacious statements like the ones you like to push to marry science with belief/faith/religion. I respect you as a person and a fellow human but dont expect or demand respect from me as to your beliefs.

So how would you explain (or would you even want to) to a 5 year old Nietzsche’s suspission towards values which can serve weakness by pretending nobleness, undeniability, truism? Or that compassion is a form of blackmail of the weak towards the strong and is a step away from contempt?

No, it does not. I recently had a spine operation. The last thing I expected laying ot the operating table before they put me to sleep was belief. I expected the surgeons to be knowledgeable and experienced to do their job properly. I trusted that they are competent, nothing to do with belief. This line of thinking has been stated in this thread multiple times yet you choose not to accept it. Sure, nothing irritates me more than ignorant, irrational people pushing their religious agendas while chuckling. I'm simply pointing out flaws in your reasoning. It's called science not accusation. Answer my questions first. Wait, I take that back. Please try to comprehend first.

I was thinking more about my own example which falls under the consumption factor not spillage. I found that it causes inflamation over time which in effect causes several consequences...like having to walk up to a mirror to inspect my penile region - „Acute Abdominal Mirrorilemis”

It has been adressed days ago that science which does not deal with belief is as much a religion as boldness is a hair color or not playing golf is a sport. You failed to adrss this argument and instead you are repeating your irrational arguments. You can believe what you want as swansont noted but that doesn’t make that thing a confirmed and evident fact. You failed to engage in that argument as well, instead you keep on distorting statements and arguments to fit your current view. Thats not how science works and you refuse to accept that. Why?

Ofcourse you could, and in my opinion you even should (I have kids too) But thats not what „any answer in its fundamentals should be easily explainable to a 5 year old” which you stated means. There are answers which even in their fundamentals are very complex and not easily comprehended without prior knowledge and thats what I meant. I never claimed you shouldn’t explain to your kids what things are. By the way quantum mechanics does not deal only with „smallest things on earth”, in fact physicists mainly use QM to try to make sense of things far away from earth and it would be a good idea you include that in your explanation to your daughter, we wouldn’t want her to end up with false views of things like some people. Also take a look at the Strawman fallacy and avoid it in the future: „Substituting a person’s actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position of the argument” https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/169/Strawman-Fallacy

Your ignorance is truly astonishing. I think I'm done here, I'll let somebody else deal with you.

There is no such thing as pure yellow or pure green or pure any color unless you use a reference point (a color model) There is no way of comparing any color without working from within a color model. This has been explained to you in this thread multiple times ad nauseam. As for the rest of your post, I really suggest you step down from that rude and ignorant tone. This forum is for learning, if you refuse to do so and stick to personal attacks instead, you won’t get very far here. I will comment as much as I please as far as it is in compliance with the forum rules here. I’ve spent half of my life teaching color management working for a major market player and I’ve had worse students than you. Change your attitude and stick arround, who knows maybe you’ll learn something.

The answer is not „Yellow”, at least not a specific yellow all the time, the answer depends on the color model used and personal conditioning. As to „why”, its because that's how color management and color perception in humans works. This has been layed out in this thread multiple times. Maybe this can help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow In RGB the closest shade of yellow to white is: R-255 G-255 B-254 In CMYK the closest yellow to white is: C-0 M-0 Y-1 K-0 In Lab the closest yellow to white is: L-100 a-0 b-0 All three yellows above differ between each other yet all are the closest yellow to white...within their color systems. If you measure a certain „yellow” with a spectrophotometer you will get different results depending on whether its a coated piece of metal that you are measuring or a TV display. You might get 576nm on the piece of metal and 588nm on the display as a result. If you try to determine the answer to your question without using a color management system, both the question and the answers are meaningless because you will get different results from person to person. Does that make it clear? I would appreciate a lighter tone of dialog from you, thanks.

I used my good ol’ regular see and it looks good.

Who knew.

Before I click the exposé I need to know whether its a see1 or see2 that I need to look at it with.

Beer might be a factor too

I honestly can't see that line of pigmentation. I see both sides of your belly having some slightly lighter areas due to lack of pigment in those areas, I'm not a doctor but I've seen this in many people on different parts of the body and since you say you have it since birth, it doesn't look like something which you should worry about.

No. Thats why we don’t teach Nietzche, Kant or quantum mechanics to 5 year olds. You need a certain level of knowledge to be able to understand complex subjects. Or even ask sensible questions.

No you couldn’t. Thats why literature lectures do not include use of calculus or C++. You fail to see a distinction between things which are not correlated and you try to reinvent their meaning to fit your crippled agenda. This was amusing for a while but since you continuosly reject all logic and rationality this thread became a pigeon chess game.

As we already established and I hope you came to agreeing, Color is a sensation which happens entirely in our brain so the answer to this question will vary from person to person. An experienced offset machinist will be able to distinguish variation in colors which you can't, he/she will be able to tell a difference between two colors which look exactly the same to you or me. As for color models, they do not have a "similar backstage" in a sense that colors vary and they do vary a lot depending on the color model and technology used. If you still have second thoughts, print a yellow color of your choosing on your printer and compare with that "same" color on your monitor - sRGB will never look the same as CMYK. It's not only the color models that differ...two TV's at a store showing the same signal will display different colors and its very much visible in spite of both TV's using the same color model - sRGB. Two different printers (both using CMYK color model) will give you very different output when you compare printouts. Your question only makes sense if you set it into context, that context is using a certain color model. And when you do that, other issues start to arise.