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It’s not about that Stringy, its about forcing people into things, about witch hunts, people loosing their jobs and being ostracised, some driven to suicide by their own community (the Dave Chappelle story which no one wants to believe here) some driven out of their work like Kathleen Stock. The fact that this happened to a lesbian philosophy professor who teaches feminism just adds to the grotesqueness. Imagine if she was a straight white male.

Like my gay neighbour said the other day, everything that the gay community was fighting for in the last few decades is being undermined right now. Call it schism, division or whatever, its a grotesque mess on so many levels.

If you’ve watched the interview, listened to the witch hunt stories she told and it still isn’t clear what „extreme transgenderism” is I’m not able to explain.

This 49 minute interview with Kathleen Stock done by another lesbian activist was eye opening to me. I was aware of some of the issues they are discussing but I did not realise the incredible level and grotesqueness of the actual mess. Professor Stock and professor Peterson should do a talk together, I’m sure they would find a mutual understanding on fundamental issues and could have a fruitful exchange of ideas on the issues they disagree on.

I think it is safe to say that you are delusional. At the beginning of this thread I ironically asked you what pronouns you use and while being a maried man you replied „I don’t care” She has been mentally raped by her own community and the fact that you have zero empathy for her is deplorable. Have a great Sunday CharonY.

I have and in fact I have plenty interacted with trans people in my life. I used to make my living as a DJ in the mid and late 90’s. I’ve interacted with thousands of people in both my club days and later in my work life and the vast majority of people are in my tribe. The ones who are insincere are not.

It is fascinating that I think pretty much the same of your rhetoric. Your constant inability to grasp what I am trying to convey and instead clinching to your biology knowledge (which is very informative btw I have to admit) which has nothing to do with the subject at hand is pretty much what the climate change denier and antivaxxer morons are displaying. There is an exception though, you are not a moron - it's almost as you are stuck in your little bubble incapable and unwilling to see that Kathleen Stock a lesbian feminist professor has been driven out of her job by a bunch of ideology driven kids. I feel there isn't room for any evidence I can give further as you dismiss everything I have given in this thread (Dave Chappelle, Krauss, and now this lesbian feminist professor who I look like she's in my tribe) and focus on clownfish and your broad biology knowledge instead. If I wasn't a gentleman, I'd say youre full of shit Arete.

The „P” previously „stood” for Penis.

Exactly, she would have kept her job and avoided a witch hunt if she had KEPT her mouth SHUT. A lesbian feminist professor, it’s beyond grotesque and this is exactly what the crux of Jordan Petersons argument is (mine and MigL’s too)

Sure Stringy, lets see how many likes you get on this post. I'll keep my fingers crossed for as many as possible since it obviously means something to you.

Kathleen Stock - lesbian and feminist, professor at university of Sussex getting fired by the loving student militia who fight for inclusion. Just like Dave Chappele’s transgender friend who had his back on twitter hung herself because the radical LGBTQ community drove her to suicide. MigL mentioned that the loving, inclusive community in this thread displays hypocrisy by cherry picking who deseves what as a tribunal of what is considered acceptable or not towards me who expresses a view. On the other hand, in the light of what is happening in Academia right now (the below clip) I can understand why @CharonY , @Arete and a few others are behaving the way they are behaving. Fortunately I own my own business and I don't have do adhere as much to the ideological ridiculousness as some others do. I can certainly express my views without risking too much (except being driven out from this thread or site)

And I support your friend all the way, they have every right to identify as non binary because they have a genetic condition which they were born with. Yesterday I went for a drink to my gay neighbour and his partner to talk about this. In short they both think that the fight which the gay community went through in the US and Europe in the last few decades is being undermined right now. This is the n’th time you use the same strawman in this thread - „my friend has Kinefelters syndrome therefore agenda driven people who have no genetic conditions are right”

Oh I think we very much are. We're the only species capable of being so incredibly full of ourselves.

In spoilt university students or in clownfish? Or both?

Don't do it man, it'll ruin your Friday.

CharonY, I respect your biology knowledge but you refuse to engage in whats discussed here by doing clownfish backflips. Thank you for having my back but let it go MigL, I rather keep away from the venom.

I apologise for my mistake, English is not my first language and in fact I am here in this thread mainly to keep and sharpen my English skills. Your insolence and ignorance is fascinating, keep it comming.

Since I am not as well versed in biology as you are, please let me understand - Which species are you talking about in your a) and b) examples?

So I take it that you will agree that the ones who wave hands instead of clapping and insists on using 50 or 70 pronouns are the same species as yourself? If yes, why do you bring up hermaphrodite species and species which can change genders?

Let me rephrase to make it easier for you; Are the people insisting on waving hands instead of clapping in auditoriums and using ridiculous made up language the same species as you and me?

Since you graded so many papers with errors similar to the ones I am making, could you tell me if the people who insist on waving hands instead of clapping in lecture halls and using ridiculous made up language are hermaphrodite species or species which can spontaneously change sex?

I browsed through the LGBT resource center and can we agree that its imposible for any human being who has not been thurally trained to communicate with this new language? HE/SHE HIM/HER HIS/HER HIS/HERS HIMSELF/HERSELF zie zim zir zis zieself sie sie hir hirs hirself ey em eir eirs eirself ve ver vis vers verself tey ter tem ters terself e em eir eirs emself

I’ve tried to calm down the thread to a point where Phi could come and close it but no, you had to come in with a swing. I’d ask how your search for Dave Chappelle’s caucasian ancestors is going but I won’t because we want to calm this thread down, don’t we.

I have no idea why I let myself go into a discussion in this thread. There is a great deal of heat in this thread and I’m no longer sure this is something even worth the heat. In my work I’ve been to 35+ countries over a period of ~20 years (never North America) I’ve met tens of thousands of people and never has anyone asked me to use a certain pronoun towards them. In the last 3 years I interviewed hundreds of students and young people to hire, not once have I seen a trace of anyone asking to use a certain pronoun. @CharonYI admit that what I posted about the 3 comedians was sloppy on my part, I havent taken the time to cross check what I posted. Me and my partner were having a discussion the other day about the education system here in PL regarding the future of our 5,5 year old son. We are terrified of the right wing having power over what is being taught at schools here, pushing faith, religion and intolerance towards minorities down the throats of 6 year olds and through out the education system later on. My (our) dream was to make enough money to eventually be able to send our son to any American college, I am having second thoughts about this, I might be wrong but this thing seems to be a North American issue?

"So, if you have been deemed to not call someone by one of the new 71 different pronouns, or mispronounce it like one of the other 70 ones, you can be charged with discrimination. A judge could now force you to use a pronoun you do not recognize and failure to comply, or mispronounce could get you jailed for contempt of court. It can also be taken too far in that it begins to violate the right of Free Speech in that you are telling me what I am to say and can be held liable for not using something completely new and something no reasonable person is familiar with, let alone understands" Here 3 Comedians were fined respectively 42K, 15K and 35K for telling jokes which insult the LGBTQ community: https://www.quora.com/Was-Jordan-Peterson-right-about-Canadas-bill-C-16/answer/Scott-Longwell