Tom O'Neil

Thanks Mordred, I see this as the duality of light being wave and particle form; so concise measurements should show averages within the two methods for obtaining the rate to overcome c in one instance and another not. The recent experiment under different conditions failed to violate the speed of light, yet prior exceeded c. Trigger happy or not, maybe the o-scope was different. I'm now undecided if it was broken or if light still holds the record.

I believe Evil Liar this may state otherwise for the half point.

Thankyou so appears the speed of light still holds the record vs the laser. Did they lack the timing for the trigger?

I can reply to posts which do not insinuate insults as is seems some are sadly reduced too. So here I replied as a moron should

I guess you see little value here but I will attempt to correlate this with my assertions with greater logic

If we are not sure of where the electron is in time on an xyz access to its precise location, and we are positive that light bends around matter; then the use of this detector may or may not validate the standard model of physics by witnessing the first experiment which would or would not weigh the neutrino. This experiment does not end for five years so I humbly ask that this thread remain open for speculation. If the neutrino breaks the standard model for this experiment. Then their maybe some valuable logic in this thread later on down the road. The electromagnetism nuts are like the conspiracy theorists of science and I guess I fit in with them for my assertions that Gravity is melded together with 3 forces. Also if in the future we find out the neutrino does interact with electromagnetism then it may explain the photon in aspects never thought of before. http://www.dw.com/en/the-katrin-tritium-neutrino-experiment-a-giant-scale-for-the-tiniest-of-particles/a-36044018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=120095&page=1 I'm working on it Evil Liar and I'm just building up to my main point Thankyou

Then why is that time reduction occurs when you travel faster than the speed of light and you don't age as much as the person on earth?

1) 1st assertion is that on a Grand and Quantum scale Gt varies as mc2/e. This to say the greater the energy < time and low gravity threshold. Likewise with less energy >Gt! 2) 2nd assertion defies common logic regarding four known laws, but reduced them to 3 known laws(i.e. electromagnetism, strong nuclear and weak nuclear)! 1 Graviton ∝ 10 femto Joules 3) An assumption of mine is that light, energy and gravity share properties unknown yet to man on a quantum and grand scale. G t ∝ mc²/e

I'm going to have to write this in word. The forum locked up and my essay was lost. And I really want to explain, because its needed I agree. Methodology of a Number System Cipher to the VMS First off, I believe that the Voynich Manuscript is a cipher, but not in natural language form (meaning the glyph’s are not arranged as so). I truly believe there is text, a book or books that were used to produce the manuscript, but in the art of numbers. Yes if you interchange the glyph’s you can get the same result and therefore make the script seem as a major null as a natural language. So it would seem to violate frequency analysis to equate to an alphabet. The cipher in number form adds a natural defense at trying to decode the main body of the text; by the premise of a number system in which I believe John Dee would be so inclined to do. John Dee used a number system in which he associated divination to letters as numbers. Yes I even attempted to decode several paragraphs from 16th century Bibles. Although not in welsh which violates the main thrust of the language that I propose it is in Welsh! And it was not verse by verse so that was a failure. However, if you attack the Voynich Manuscript from a theme and imagery perspective along with a sound cipher many words have come forth which represent its meaning. The cipher which I came up with is a number system which letters equal numbers. I approached this decoding method in the Voynich Manuscript from the most intricate approach attributed to the Zodiac in folio 67r2. Furthermore this became the base of operations for my cipher in which I added upon. This should answer the (Strange) question. However Mr. Strange you have to line up the Zodiac on top of creating cipher for that to work. If you can present one using a number system in a different language; I would like to see it and I will allow 1 Zodiac sign to be a different language to be fair. Every attempt in history here has been met with failure; but I noticed a glyph equivalents to the (scorpion) and, (craf, i.e. garlic) equaled a 1 in along with the code I embraced for this image of craf in f99r; as the Voynich Glyph’s which I associated to have number equivalents added up to a 1. oHae89 o=6, H=8, a=1, e=5, 8=8, 9=9 } All add up and equal a 1 This cipher I have found which I’m certain is used within the Voynich Manuscript has confounded the language to numbers. It does not follow order of a natural language which has kept it secrets for so long. The words which I have found are in Welsh would be 85 out of a hundred. And they correlate to the imagery and themes. The reason I have 15 words outside of welsh is attributed to known astronomy words in which John Dee would have known. John Dee also annotated a Welsh to English Dictionary (1)! I discount the, “Boke of Jona”, because it was just an attempt in which it produced failure from not following verse by verse and its outside of the Welsh Language. So in a sense I’m just using Welsh with astronomical and astrological slight imbalances to the overall language. That is fair! I’m certainly not using every European Language. 1) The facts are the images and themes tell a story on their own. 2) The Voynich word has to add up and equal the Welsh equivalent word 3) Translate that in which the cipher meets the images head on. 4) And the theme words correlate to the whole picture; I would say no this is not just a coincidence from 1-9. It’s a number system; whether or not Pythagoras came up with it, I used it for my cipher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHV1sTPfMpI http://www.rkm.com.au/CALCULATORS/CALCULATOR-Numerology.html (1) William Salesbury his Dictionarie in Englishe & Welshe, or Brytishe. 4o London 1547 : Dee’s copy is now TCD, EE.e.32 (formerly C.10.17). At the head of the titlepage is ‘John Dee’. In the first half of the book, up to sig. K, he extensively annotated and corrected it; in some instances where Salesbury had put words of English origin in the ‘Camraec’ column, Dee supplied a Welsh word and occasionally, where Salesbury left a blank, he supplied an English equivalent. He also corrected equivalents in both languages. Later owned by abp. Ussher. See R. G. Gruffydd and R. J. Roberts, ‘John Dee’s additions to William Salesbury’s Dictionary’, Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, n.s. 7 (2001), 19–43. http://www.bibsoc.org.uk/sites/www.bibsoc.org.uk/files/John%20Dee's%20Library%20Catalogue%204.pdf https://voynichnumerology.wordpress.com/ John Dee Voynich Numerology.pdf

It maybe nonsense to you yet in a cipher form it does lock up the manuscript unless you have images and themes to work with. Also many people had different beliefs in the 16 the century. Thanks again I will not load it up with numerology

Thank you I will post but its going to be an essay lol:)

Ok this is not easy so I will try and make it easy for you all to comprehend ok. I thought those steps were clear I will deliver!

I don't see what your going on about. It's not nonsense. In fact, I have made greater sense of the voynich manuscript than in all ages. The fact that the script uses 3 evident numbers which I have equated to their equals and the Pi glyph which I represent as 3 does not not seem so mysterious that numerology would be in use here. You are drawing conclusions with no sound evidence that my method is incorrect. For instance here is folio 77v and the imagery eludes to the dichotomy of woman's reproductive issues.

1) Find some evident theme or imagery which can produce a cipher. a) I chose a table from Pythagorean numerology, because I never tried that before. Also I knew that John Dee practiced Pythagorean numerology. b) I chose these glyph's to be identical to numbers in the Pythagorean table along with using the welsh language. The H=8 and so on e=5! 1) Scorpion shares the same glyph's as craf which is garlic so that was my starting point. 3) Then I went unto building up my voynich glyph table with words I found that correlated to the Zodiac and planets. This has never been done before. a)This was extremely difficult and was done by trial and error. 4) Finally I needed to support my hypothesis with greater support. I sought out some logic, glyph s outside the voynich and a signature. I actually found Pi way into my near completion of the chart. 3.14159 https://www.scribd.com/document/227899731/Sloane-0863-John-Dee-s-Book-of-Enoch#download

Within this decoded paragraph are direct quotes and words from the Book of Jonah. The sentence structure follows my cipher to the letter and correlates to the Pythagorean numerology from the books of Jonah from the 16th century. Also in folio 79v from the voynich manuscript there is imagery of a cross and a fysh swallowing a male figure. The penis is evident here. Forming sentences with a cipher for the voynich has never occurred until now. The odds of doing this have been misrepresented by you, because my cipher is strong and the logic of sentence structure in this paragraph are evident. http://www.bibles-online.net/

Strange, Lets move on you simply have not studied my cipher. Europe is Europa and Africvs is Africa! This is obviously confusing you. No one has ever transcribed a paragraph from the voynich so what to you think of this?

tripartite map,

Boke of Jona f79v T-Maps commonly only use Europe and Africa and Asia on the bottom.

How do you know the parchment or vellum was not used a 100 years later? If its truncated how did I produce this?

The letters are still = to the numbers in Pythagorean numerology and I believe John Dee wrote this. John Dee was an English man with a Welsh background! How do you explain this? This has never been done before and the rules are to strict to duplicate in any other language.

Say you have a word like, "Celf" which is magic in welsh. C=3, e=5, l=3,f=6 then add 3+5+3+6=17 then add 1+7=8 3536=8 When you use Pythagorean numerology every output has to be equal to any number from 1 through 9. So by adding up the letters remember this. So if a number that equals 11 that would reduce to 2. Number 15 would = 6 and so on. http://www.rkm.com.au/CALCULATORS/CALCULATOR-Numerology.html I have to say that I developed a decoding process for the voynich manuscript; which discovers welsh words for the images and themes within the voynich manuscript. I realize that I have been a bit vague in my presentation here. I discovered a Pythagorean Numerology Method by decoding all the astrology signs in folio 67r2 which runs consistent to my cipher, something which has never occurred yet to my knowledge. I assigned voynich glyph's to number equivalents. If you understand the traditional model of astrology Aries which is the Ram sits on the ascendant and then moving counter clockwise I found all the signs in folio 67r2 of the voynich manuscript in welsh and one English word for scorpion. I believe John Dee designed the Voynich Manuscript. 1) Astrology fallows an order of welsh words that are labels for the signs that are counter clockwise 2) and are static as number totals for numerology. 3) In my cipher the voynich words have to equate to those labels in numerology. So with these three very strict rules my output shows welsh as the primary language for the voynich manuscript.

I agree to disagree