Alex_Krycek

Keyword: "limitations". You can't arbitrarily suspend someone's constitutional rights. You don't get to decide that; only the courts can. "Temporary"? You don't know if it will be temporary. Many of the so called experts are advocating some form of shutdown for years. Fine because it won't affect them. Not so great for average working people. Here's a fun read for you: Unemployment causes 45,000 suicides a year worldwide, finds study https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/11/unemployment-causes-45000-suicides-a-year-worldwide-finds-study That was when unemployment was low. Think what the number of suicides will be at with 20,000,000 people unemployed (and rising), and that's just in the United States. Depressions / recessions KILL. No matter how dismissive you choose to be, that is just as serious a threat as possibly dying from COVID, if not more serious.

I don't see any parallel with the "crowded theater" argument. Someone leaving their home to protest doesn't infringe upon my rights to self-quarantine if I want to. But that's one for the courts. Ok, so what do you propose the world do? Extend the shutdown indefinitely, so that the economy crashes and millions starve? Great - you just created a problem that's worse than the supposed cure. And you didn't answer my question. Which is worse: A.) the reality of losing your job and going bankrupt (or the economy crashing), or B.) potentially getting infected with a disease form which the vast majority of people recover?

Of course. And ultimately it is up to the legislature and the executive at the state level to determine whether a mandatory lockdown order infringes on people's right to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". But people should certainly have the right to protest that it does.

Lockdown Protests Germany: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/apr/26/coronavirus-dozens-arrested-in-berlin-protesting-against-lockdown-video https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-protests-idUSKCN2270RD Lockdown Protests France: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/paris-suburbs-protests-villeneuve-la-garenne/2020/04/25/55f5a40c-85a1-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html Fallacious argument. The premise should be: should sex workers be stopped from working because they have the potential to get HIV / AIDS and spread it to others? By all accounts, that's a different question. Yes, the protesters might have COVID-19, or they might get it by leaving their homes. But right now they are being prevented from earning a living because of a potentiality, not a reality. And the reality is, if they don't work, they will starve. That is much less uncertain. So what takes precedence - the situation that might arise, or the situation that is?

Some interesting analysis of Hydroxychloroquine data from Roger Seheult, MD. Seems the jury is still out on the efficacy of the drug. (Hydroxychloroquine segment starts at 5:43) Seheult has advocated from the beginning that a randomized, double blind trial is needed to see if HC works or not.

No. Not one iota. That's a pretty weak argument. These protesters are staying within their own group outdoors for the most part. I don't see them parading through hospitals or entering the homes of those who don't want to participate. Also, a German court ruled last week that banning protests would be unconstitutional: The court said health concerns linked to the coronavirus pandemic are no grounds for a general ban on demonstrations. “The local authorities had incorrectly assumed that the provision by the Hesse state government to fight the coronavirus includes a general ban on gatherings of more than two people who don’t live in the same household and has therefore violated the constitutional right to assembly,” the court said. The Constitutional Court added that the city of Giessen as well as the two lower courts must use its ruling to make a new decision on whether to allow the protests to go ahead under certain conditions or to ban them. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-protests-idUSKCN21Y220 The question: "What right does the government have to deny a citizen the opportunity to work? (thus greatly increasing the chances of bankruptcy, starvation, poverty, and potential death) is not being sufficiently addressed. As I mentioned before, this question is being arrogantly dismissed (as Cuomo did when he told people to "go get essential jobs".)

What exactly is your point?

Interesting commentary from two doctors on the front lines. Their view is the data doesn't justify continuing the shut down any longer.

This is a common tactic used by both sides these days: link a protest movement however you can to powerful special interest groups thus allowing you to dismiss the validity of the protest en masse. The right does it all the time with George Soros, dismissing left wing groups as "Soros backed". Now it seems the left is doing as well, calling these groups "Davos backed" etc. It's an deflection tactic to avoid understanding opposing viewpoints.

The only logical outcome when you deprive people of the basic necessities to live. Many people are facing death already - the Corona Virus is a small risk compared to being unemployed. The number of suicides has apparently skyrocketed in the last two months. So if you've got money, great, you can sit back and wag your finger condescendingly - as most of those in the political, scientific, and media establishment do. But if you're a working man or woman, you face a much different reality. While he rests comfortably on the taxpayer's dime in a plush office somewhere. On a related note, I saw Andrew Cuomo told the out of work protesters to "get an essential job". He might as well have told them to "go and eat cake".

Very interesting hypothesis by Prof. Isaac Ben-Israel based on global models: Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/278658

You just stated that money has no value. Your vague utopian ideology is no solution at all for people bearing the economic brunt of this crisis.

Ok, then why don't you give all your money away today then, to help someone else out? Seeing as it has no value to you...

I think it's likely to have the opposite effect, with even less people caring about the environment or "big problems" because of this crisis. Our economic system is still dog eat dog, no matter how you look at it. Yeah, the government has made some token efforts, which is barely enough for most people, but the only people I see who are content with the current state of economic affairs (i.e. total economic shutdown) are those who are financially insulated (i.e. the extremely wealthy, those with cushy jobs, and people who depend on others, such as children who live with their parents, for financial subsistence). Everyone else is in one heck of a nightmarish survival situation. And frankly, when you can't put food on the table to feed your family and are facing a towering wall of apathy from society, issues like global warming seem like pompous trivialities. At the end of the day this is why people are out protesting the shutdown - they're dying anyway. They might as well work and face the possibility of infection rather than starve to death in silence at home.

Interesting data released by Stanford estimating that the number of people infected by COVID in California may be 50 - 80 times higher than originally thought. If true this would significantly lower the death rate from 3-4% to .1%. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

Public Service Broadcasting: "Go" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHIo6qwJarI

The Nimitz incident or Nimitz encounter refers to a series of UFO sightings that took place off the coast of San Diego, California in 2004 during a US military war games exercise involving Carrier Strike Group 11. Thus far six personnel involved in the war game have come forward describing what they saw: Commander David Fravor, VFA-41 Black Aces, U.S. Navy (testimony available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ&t=977s Ryan Weigelt , (Leading Petty Officer, Power Plant Systems Specialist, USS Princeton) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QawDa0-UlnA Kevin Day, (Senior Chief Radar Operator, Combat Information Center, USS Princeton) (testimony available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2zRabdvKnw&t=961s Jason Turner, (Petty Officer Third Class, Supply Officer, USS Princeton) (testimony available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnvA5WZ1QV4&t=20s Patrick Hughes, (Petty Officer, A2 Aviation Tech, USS Nimitz) (testimony available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kycZgGc-Yec&t=16s Gary Voorhis, (Petty Officer, Fire Controlman + AEGIS Computer Technician, USS Princeton) (testimony available here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YhlvUg2yk4&t=21s All of these gentlemen describe the same thing: an aerial vehicle maneuvering in such a manner as to defy the known laws of physics (and with remarkably similar characteristics as what Lazar described). There are numerous other articles available online regarding the Nimitz incident, including pieces in the Washington Post and New York Times. There is also FLIR footage of the aerial vehicle that was witnessed, captured from one of the Super Hornets that were tasked with intercepting it. (This footage is shown during Fravor's interview on Rogan). Skepticism is part of science, but so is a spirit of free and open inquiry into the unknown. The phenomena that Lazar describes fits squarely within general relativity theory. The technology that he claims to have worked on could supposedly manipulate/generate a gravitational field. If gravity can in fact be harnessed/manipulated, then time and distance become inconsequential in the context of general relativity.

Surely this is subjective? Personally I find Lazar's account "reasonably persuasive". Again, I'm not saying that it's 100% true, just that it's firmly in the realm of possibility of being true. Coupled with recent events such as the Nimitz incident off the coast of San Diego, his account is worthy of attention. I think much of how a person views someone like Lazar will depend on his / her epistemological outlook, i.e. how they view the nature of knowledge. If a person falls more on the skeptical side of things, then of course, someone like Lazar will be quickly dismissed. My outlook is that knowledge is always finite, and the unknown is infinite, thus, I choose to keep an open mind regarding people like Lazar.

Why is the notion that extraterrestrial life forms have visited Earth an "extraordinary claim"?

We both live in unprepared countries with ineffective strategies.

Any claims that are outside the current understanding of science could be considered "outrageous". It doesn't mean they're necessarily untrue, just not definitively provable at this time.

Solid interview. Biowarfare Experts On Coronavirus (COVID19)- Dr. Gerald Parker Associate Dean for Global One Health at Texas A&M and Professor Andrew S Natsios Executive Professor at The Bush School and Director of the Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs have a sit down with Patrick Bet-David about the Coronavirus Pandemic About the guests: Dr. Gerald Parker https://vetmed.tamu.edu/news/press-releases/cvm-global-one-health-expert-discusses-coronavirus-outbreak/ Andrew S. Natsios:https://bush.tamu.edu/faculty/anatsios/

Correction.

Testing is assumed. If the number of deaths increases as the confirmed cases do, then that shows that a country is doing something right. Some countries are testing far more than others, and their number of confirmed cases keeps rising, but the number of deaths does not - because they have some form of effective treatment regimen in place, combined with early detection which allows physicians to catch the virus before it has the chance to become terminal. Some countries, like South Korea, claim to have already passed the peak: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html South Korea has tested 140,000 people for the coronavirus. That could explain why its death rate is just 0.6% — far lower than in China or the US. So the metric isn't necessarily distorted by testing as the confirmed cases increase, unless a country has an ineffective strategy. https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?op=1

Um....Yes...I was being serious. Those who violate secrecy oaths and disclose government secrets are routinely discredited / smeared / targeted. What do you propose the normal course of action is? Awarding a medal? Surely you're not feigning incredulity regarding this obvious fact.