Alex_Krycek

Any claims that are outside the current understanding of science could be considered "outrageous". It doesn't mean they're necessarily untrue, just not definitively provable at this time.

Solid interview. Biowarfare Experts On Coronavirus (COVID19)- Dr. Gerald Parker Associate Dean for Global One Health at Texas A&M and Professor Andrew S Natsios Executive Professor at The Bush School and Director of the Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs have a sit down with Patrick Bet-David about the Coronavirus Pandemic About the guests: Dr. Gerald Parker https://vetmed.tamu.edu/news/press-releases/cvm-global-one-health-expert-discusses-coronavirus-outbreak/ Andrew S. Natsios:https://bush.tamu.edu/faculty/anatsios/

Correction.

Testing is assumed. If the number of deaths increases as the confirmed cases do, then that shows that a country is doing something right. Some countries are testing far more than others, and their number of confirmed cases keeps rising, but the number of deaths does not - because they have some form of effective treatment regimen in place, combined with early detection which allows physicians to catch the virus before it has the chance to become terminal. Some countries, like South Korea, claim to have already passed the peak: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html South Korea has tested 140,000 people for the coronavirus. That could explain why its death rate is just 0.6% — far lower than in China or the US. So the metric isn't necessarily distorted by testing as the confirmed cases increase, unless a country has an ineffective strategy. https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?op=1

Um....Yes...I was being serious. Those who violate secrecy oaths and disclose government secrets are routinely discredited / smeared / targeted. What do you propose the normal course of action is? Awarding a medal? Surely you're not feigning incredulity regarding this obvious fact.

The point is, they keep a safe distance. Crocodiles don't have nukes or air to air missiles. You're looking at it purely from a human-centric bias. Yes, that's what drives us - although, not all of us. It might not be what drives other intelligent beings. There might come a time when a life form evolves past these animalistic qualities, or they never possessed them in the first place. According to George Knapp there were many. As a side note, this interview with retired US Navy pilot Commander David Fravor is quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ&t=260s

You wouldn't go there to play games, but you might, as countless zoologists have done, go there to study and document them (preferably from out of sight).

We're discussing computer / paper records. Those would have been easy to erase. Last time I checked Los Alamos is run by the Department of Energy, i.e., the government, so erasing any records there would be a non issue. As to MIT and Cal-Tech, it would have been pretty easy for someone to break / hack in and remove what they wanted.

Jump into a river in Africa and try to explain yourself to a crocodile. If we're discussing a super intelligent life form, then human beings (driven primarily by fear, malice, and greed) would probably be regarded as dangerous and reckless life forms. Intelligent to a degree, yes, but to a significantly lesser degree than they are. So ultimately it's possible that we have nothing of value for them, and represent only an unknown risk. In that case, the optimal strategy would be to just observe.

Spend some time researching DARPA and the NRO. Click here to see some of the programs that have been / are declassified. https://www.darpa.mil/our-research Just the tip of the iceberg. And yet we're arguing over whether they could erase someone's academic or work history in the 1980s. They didn't. Those people remembered Lazar, according to Knapp. They didn't - we're not talking about Bob Lazar's high school days.

Sheer curiosity. A characteristic of all intelligent species is an impulse to discover and investigate the universe around them. To some (myself excluded) insects aren't that interesting, and yet there are thousands of people who devote their entire careers to entomology. Also, misanthropic tendencies aside, human beings are fascinating creatures, not to mention dangerous. We've also developed the capacity to explore space, albeit in an extremely limited way.

We're talking about the 1980s. A person's digital footprint was practically nonexistent back then. Expunge / destroy somone's paper records and locate any possible computer records and that would have been that. As far as people's memories - according to George Knapp, the journalist who has investigated Lazar's case thoroughly, when they went to Los Alamos many former colleagues recognized and interacted with Lazar. Your perception of the the capabilities of the US government is incorrect, in that case.

Lazar's "credibility" is debatable and subjective. As to the events which supposedly occurred, (i.e. extraterrestrials visiting Earth and making contact with human beings) I find this hypothesis plausible. Over billions upon billions of years, with trillions of star systems and trillions of inhabitable planets, at some point a species will arise that could reach Earth. It's inevitable, in my view, due to the sheer number of inhabitable planets out there.

Next step: just lie: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/life-after-lockdown-has-china-really-beaten-coronavirus It was only a matter of time before China reopened to save the economy; more countries will follow. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The US is so far behind at this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bCMhG-523g

If indeed Lazar did work at a top secret military facility such as S-4, it would have been incredibly easy for the government to erase his academic / employment history had they wanted to. It's ridiculous to suggest that the US government wouldn't be able to accomplish such a trivial feat within days.

Suddenly Universal Basic Income doesn't seem like such a bad idea to most people. I guess it's not socialism anymore now that they're affected.

Obviously not. The point about intergenerational contact is interesting. It's ironic that consistent intergenerational contact was cited as one of the causes for longevity in a population. I have suspected this from the very beginning. COVID-19 has probably been around for much longer than originally though, going unnoticed.

So, can someone please elucidate the end-game regarding COVID-19? First, there' an attempt to flatten the curve so hospitals aren't overwhelmed, I understand that. But then what? I've heard no clear estimates from any government as far as how long this will last. Some say 3 months, some 6 months, some a year or more. What is the most likely scenario for how this pandemic plays out?

Lazar's book is interesting. He details some of his supposed time at S-4 and interacting with the anti-gravity propulsion system. Interesting, especially in the context of the recent Nimitz encounters: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6i-se5IU8hRbPov5-ON1tw

Agreed. This whole debacle is turning out to be a shameful episode in human history. Countries expelling / preventing the entrance of foreigners. Increased division and xenophobia like never before. Really shows how little we've progressed as a society.

Asleep at the wheel.

Note: I'm not sure if this thread belongs in Politics or as part of another existing thread It might be interesting to discuss the success stories vs the failures so far in the COVID-19 pandemic. My definition of "success" is based on the number of deaths compared to the number of confirmed cases. Success Stories: Japan Singapore Taiwan Hong Kong South Korea Not so Successful: Pretty much every other country. Factors of Success: 1. Widespread and systematic testing - testing is readily available on demand and the throughput for testing (amount of tests that can be completed per day) is significantly higher than unsuccessful countries) South Korea reportedly can test 10,000 people per day. Everyone is encouraged to be tested, symptomatic or not, which is crucial when dealing with this kind of covert virus. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-south-korea-scaled-coronavirus-testing-while-the-us-fell-dangerously-behind 2. Sufficient medical supplies / stockpiles for a pandemic. Countries like Japan already stockpiled a medicine to be used against the first SARS, which was ready to deploy when this pandemic emerged. 3. Innovative use of technology to alert, inform, and track the general public with regards to testing stations, active COVID-19 cases, and protocol for those who might be infected. In South Korea they send out alerts to all mobile phones about active cases within a 100 metre radius. 4. A compliant general public. The public in these countries is taking the outbreak seriously and following government protocol. 5. They actually had a plan. Because of past experience with MERS, SARS-1, Avian Flu, and Swine Flu, these countries have already developed a serious action plan to confront an epidemic.

I hope they're considering these questions, and keeping the workers in mind. Wal-Mart is notoriously anti-labor. Their workers already live close to or below the poverty line, and so extended unpaid leave is going to break most of them. Wal-Mart isn't concerned about that, of course. Starbucks is offering paid leave to all employees, displaying a shred of decency for once.

There have been some promising developments regarding Chloroquine (a generic anti-malarial) as a potential treatment for COVID-19. South Korea has apparently begun incorporating it into their treatment regimens, with positive results. Chloroquine (chloroquine diphosphate) allows Zinc to permeate the cell membrane and inhibit the replication of the virus. Here is the full breakdown with citations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M

Cyberwarfare is infinitely more efficient, which is why it is their preferred course of action. COVID-19 is pure chaos for all countries involved. Ok, but if that's the objective why unleash the virus in your own country, and risk decimating your own economy? Seems very far-fetched. There's already a conspiracy theory in China that the virus was planted by America.