stevecastleberry

Only my 3rd post as a reply. On my 4th, I wished it wasn`t brought up. I`ll need another paper for that.

You need to go back & read who & what I was talking about. So you`re staff? Are you telling me I`m not qualified to post?Try & delete my post ...

Thanx This is the crux of the matter of our disagreement. If you haven`t noticed, I`m not a mathematician so I can`t give you what you need. I`m talking of a possibility that as far as what I know of Einstein is plausible & far more probable in this matter. If I`ve said anything in ignorance of him or Newton, please somebody stop me... I`m assuming your evidence is two independent teams & not the Nobel committee ( that`s another story). Even Barack Obama would be the 1st to say their judgement was a little questionable back then . ...I myself, have already explained how & why two teams may have misread their results or actually ... correctly read off the tainted results. To believe in the theory of Dark Energy would require me to drop Newton`s Laws of motion & I`m unable to do that yet. Not when I know that these tests were performed around known & unknown black holes. Not when I know the effects of super massive black holes are not well known & I feel I have to remind you that questioning is still in the realm of science. Here is another way to explain my point: We are hovering in space about a few light days from a super massive. I look at you & say goodbye & fall towards the singularity. You see me as slowing down & starting to red shift, all the while slowing my movements until I reach the event horizon, whereupon my movements are frozen. I see my wristwatch running normal the whole time. I look back & see your movements slowly speed up. I see the galaxies all around me speeding away faster & faster. I see - ... hey, this sounds familiar. You`ve all brought up some good points but haven`t convinced me I`m wrong yet. Thanx to everybody! An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof. -Marcello Truzzi

Well said... I`ve been trying the last 6yrs to get friends to disprove my ideas & now i`ve found an ideal site. I plan on answering everyone. I`ve even started tackling speed in my equation (complicated!). What you said: "The more pieces you can fit into a single chunk, the more robust the theory..." also reminds me... i think maybe we are traveling down a blind ( because we can`t see) dead-end alley called the search for dark energy. The fact that I question Dark matter is really not relevant to this discussion because it`s a different discussion ie. I question it for different reasons & I don`t want anyone to muddy up my point. I ask, hey, what causes mass out in the far reaches to orbit a black hole, and they say, Dark Matter. So I ask, "what is Dark Matter?" And I hear... "well, we don`t have a clue" I am not proposing any kind of new theory,either, this is all Einstein & Newton I`m using & I think by now, everyone knows this is all about whether or not the effects of their theories are significant enough for this application. Has anybody calculated to what distance a supermassive black hole`s reach is as far as it`s event horizon on out? No they haven`t ... I don`t believe the whole halo of the Milky Way & how it works together is being considered, either. I can guarantee it because we can`t say we know enough about it. Can you anyone, yet? I have to go out tonight but I really do appreciate everybody`s comments & try to get to all of them...

Hold on there tiger! All I`m stating is that something in our galaxy caused them to get absurd results ( even with two teams ) in an experiment done. I`m not sure what it is exactly, but I`m sure it has to do with time dilation. Whether through speed or mass. Maybe there`s a small black hole creeping up on us right now... Now you know Dark Energy is a theory, too, but I`d much rather go with Newton

Only if something was falling into it at the time... Why are you insisting on a mysterious form of matter that is invisible? The dust is there and it is as easily unseen as the black holes. I cut & pasted from this article: http://galacticconnection.com/new-findings-show-milky-way-is-surrounded-by-halo-of-charged-particles/ "If the size and mass of this plasma halo is confirmed, it also could be an explanation for what is known as the “missing baryon” problem for the galaxy. Baryons are particles, such as protons and neutrons that make up more than 99.9 percent of the mass of atoms found in the cosmos. The use of the words “missing baryons” is to distinguish the unaccounted for mass which should be in our galaxy (Milky Way) and nearby galaxies. Are you including the halo which contains as much mass as the visible galaxy? Are you including all the satellite clusters of galaxies involved? It does matter... Yea, that can happen when the bodies involved are in the proper locations, but not always. Anyway... back to dark energy...

Dark matter... this is something else you will have no need to search for when there is found to be enough black holes & invisible dust towards the center of Sgr A* from here.

I really shouldn`t nitpick your nitpicking me but here goes anyway... From Wikipedia: On October 16, 2002, an international team led by Rainer Schödel of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics reported the observation of the motion of the star S2 near Sagittarius A* over a period of ten years. According to the team's analysis, the data ruled out the possibility that Sgr A* contains a cluster of dark stellar objects or a mass of degenerate fermions, strengthening the evidence for a massive black hole. =============================== In 1974, they only found a large radio source in the direction of the center of the Milky Way. In 1982 Sagittarius A* was named, but we were still ignorant of it`s true nature.

I just cut & pasted this but it explains I think: Nobody's really sure exactly what our galaxy looks like, given that we're trying to observe it from inside, but given that there are relatively few O/B/A type stars near us, our best guess is that we're currently located between two major arms in the galaxy, in a region known as the "Orion Spur". Soon we'll enter the Perseus arm, one of the two major arms of the Milky Way extending from the central bar. Despite being more crowded, there's still an enormous amount of space between solar systems, even inside of the galactic arms, so most scientists don't think we have much to worry about. If anyone's wondering how we got the above referenced image, it has to do with a theory of stellar formation. Basically, it would take a ridiculous sum of time for molecular clouds to coalesce enough to form into a star if they did so based on gravity alone (like, longer than the current age of the universe). As such, we think there have to be catalysts which form the stars. One proposed catalyst is the galactic arms themselves. As a gas cloud enters the arm, it hits a "shock front", essentially a region in which the fabric of space itself is actually more compact. This basically forces the molecules together as the space between them shrinks dramatically and quickly, resulting in stellar formation. Once one star forms and fusion begins, it's able to blow material away from itself, compacting dust around it with its stellar wind, thus catalyzing more stars to form. Now, most of these stars, especially from larger clouds will form as larger O/B/A type stars. These stars are so large that they burn through their material quicker than smaller stars due to their additional gravity, and are much shorter lived. Most of these massive stars are so short lived that they're not able to make it through the arm before they burn themselves out and go supernova or collapse; as such you'll typically ONLY see O/B/A type stars within the arms themselves. Thus we can look for O/B/A type stars, determine their distance, and map them two dimensionally to map out where the arms of our galaxy are, since they'll only exist within the arms themselves. This is also why the arms appear more "blue" than the inter-arm regions, because all the large, hot, blue stars exist within them; and only smaller, cooler, yellow, white and red stars live long enough to make it into the inter-arm regions. =========================== So I don`t know why you`re assuming we`re not leaving the orbit of Sagittarius A*. All I`m saying is we may be, and if we are, Einstein says says there`s a change in the rate of time for differential locations to a black hole. I say it is a variable rate because of our orbits involved. Can you say it`s not big enough to make a difference in Perlmutter`s equations? `Cause if you think it`s not, then you must go with the status quo. Good luck with that, brother. https://i.imgur.com/dtb8WrD.mp4

We live on the skin of a planet whose gravity influences our rate of time. Researchers have demonstrated one of Einstein's theories of relativity - that the further away from the Earths center of gravity you are, the faster time passes. Einstein was proven correct when two synchronized atomic clocks were placed on different floors of a tall building. After a year, the clock further from the Earth`s center of gravity gained time quicker. By moving about 10 feet to the top of the stairs, you would age sooner by just under a millionth of a second! ...Also, we live here on Earth in a "changing" rate of time, due to moving bodies of mass around us. Along with lifting the oceans twice a day, our Sun & Moon, as they change distance from the observer, influence the rate of time (however small) for the reader sitting in his chair at his altitude on Earth. Now, let`s step-up this scenario to a scale of about 4.3 million to 1 ... There is a newly discovered super massive black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy called Sagittarius A*. All elliptical galaxies are considered to have one. It`s said to contain 4.3 million solar masses & influences all the stars orbiting it in our galaxy. A study in 2008 which linked radio telescopes in Hawaii, Arizona and California (Very Long Baseline Interferometry) measured the diameter of Sagittarius A* to be 27 million miles. For comparison, the radius of Earth's orbit around the Sun is about 93 million miles. Our star, the Sun, is on the inner edge of one of the spiral-shaped concentrations of gas and dust called the Orion Arm of the Milky Way. Since there are no known perfectly round orbits in the universe, we are either falling into or receding away from the singularity at the center. I maintain that we, along with our sun are being flung out from the singularity along on the Orion Arm . Looking at the picture of a barred spiral galaxy, it`s spiral -shaped for a reason. It`s barred center is spinning & throwing out two jets of stars & dust. Our distance to Sagittarious A* is CONSTANTLY lengthening, which in turn CONSTANTLY changes our rate of time and (from our perspective) everything outside our galaxy LOOKS to speed away from us faster & faster seeming to break Newtons First Law of Motion. I can believe all visible galaxies are essentially expanding away from each other, but accelerating faster? ... & faster? ... No way. I admit, my tiny primate brain may not be able to fathom the total mass of the visible universe & beyond, I mean, -that`s a hell of a lot of mass in motion- but to accept it as mysteriously accelerating faster & faster makes no sense. I would much rather expound a theory that we are not so much traveling IN a bubble of space/time, but rather wherever our location is in distance to bubbles of space/time around these five bodies gives us our rate of time: dM(Earth) + dM(Moon) + dM(Sun) + dM(SagittariusA*) + dM(Big Bang) = Rate Of Time for observer d = distance from mass to observer M = mass I added "The Big Bang" ( whatever that was... ) because space is getting less dense (another variable). The relationship of distance from the observer to these five space/time bubbles, sets the rate of time for the observer, which varies. But an observer would never know it... I believe Saul Perlmutter reported what his instruments sensed but failed to account for the observer`s constant change in distance to a super massive object. This gave him the readings he had of such impossible & illogical accelerations of distant galaxies. Of course our massive singularity was unknown at the time. It goes to show that we`ve got a lot to learn about black holes, about time, and about space. So I don`t expect anyone to find out what Dark Energy is now, because I think it was just convenient at the time to have a label for an unknown "Power", which it wasn`t ... just a slight miscalculation due to the changing distance of an unknown super massive body. -Steve Castleberry Santa Cruz, CA castleberrysteve9@gmail.com