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i beg to differ lol. im 17 in the peak of my life and im freakin filled with testosterone lol. that link isnt working for me, but to be blunt, it sounds like bs to me. and as for masculenity, gay men can be just as masulen as a strait man, im just like any other guy in my school, i just like guys. i play sports and all that, and im competative as can be, no dif.

hiya, i made this thread to discuss energy drinks such as redbull, rockstar, monster, 5-hour power shots,ect, and weather it accualy gives an extra boost of energy. so: a healthy balanced diet combined with a vitamin pill that contained all the "energy blend" ingredeints of a normal energy drink, and a placibo drink, and one diet minus the placibo an energy drink contraining the following combined with the same healthy diet, replacing the pill with the energy drink, but using a placebo pill. and one without the placibo and one person on a normal diet, with and without neccicary placibos --------------------- vitamins: b2- 3.4 mg b3-20mg b5-10mg b12-6mcg "special blend": taurine- 1000mg ginko biloba leaf extract- 150mg caffeen- 80mg gaurana seed extract- 25mg inositol- 25mg l-caratine- 25mg panax gingsin extract- 25mg milk thistle extract- 20mg to help make the pill seem like a normal vitamin, get most of the special blend ingredients from the diet. ________________________________________________________ so who thinks its the drink and who thinks its the power of belief?

saya is right, theres gay people that act like any other guy or girl you know, but happen to like the same gender.

accept the fact that gays are people too

ill never fully understand it i geuss, it just seems like basic rights to me, and kinda makes the basis of the hole country a big lie, pursuit of happyness my ass lol, but oh well, people will get over it eventualy, fight the good fight is all we can do at the moment. so is there any ideas related to the thread you wana bring up? (or any one else veiwing)

such a confusing topic lol, though could you explain if the church is the reason, or one of the reasons, why marrage is limited to a man and woman?

ok, i looked it up and found this http://lesbianlife.about.com/cs/wedding/a/unionvmarriage.htm it had info on marrage, domestic partnership and civil unions. and now im just like wow lol...it seems like it would be SOOO much easyer to just tweek the definition a bit to alow gay marrage, instead of make these confusing as holy hell exeptions and roundabout terms that make it almost the same as marrage, but people dont want it to be the same, because its not a man and a woman, and if im not mistaken, both homosexual and heterosexual couples can get domestic partnership/civil unions, so i dont see how it can work one way and not both.

ok, hears what realy confuses me. why is the supream court ruling against gay marrage? what is the goverment and states using against it to say gay marrage cant be alowed? it doesnt make any sence to me, the only argument iv heard about it is the marrital definition, and definitions can change right? so whats the issue lol, make a quick revision, an bam, all better right? eather that or change how marrage effects things like how you choose to be payed (claiming married for your paycheck and all that good stuff) and what ever, because im not entirly sure, im about to go look, but "cival unions" dont give the same benifits or what ever, and a freind mentioned something about taxes, but yeah, please explain these things to me -checking cival union vs. marrage now-

thanks Iknow but not only that, but im having an idea that would force the leagalization of gay marrage in all states based on religion. what if a homosexual religion were made? the defonition of religion is simply the shared faith or belief system of a people, in this case homosexuals, and it would alow the practices of said religions to be practiced solong as they didnt cause harm to others or give them access to loopholes in goverment or state aid programs and the likes. now, i may be incorrect on these things, but i think i covered most of it.

thank you for bring us back on topic well, with homosexuality being affected by law, id like to ask how it is that it has been alowed to get into law? its very clearly a breach of (possiblly) the first amendment (ill explain more in a sec), and of corse the phrase "life librty and the prusuit of happyness" in the decleration. the first amendment: Would it change things if a religion were made that surrounded the homosexual way of life? it could be a loose fitting relgion so as to alow homosexuals to live the way they would want to live, and alow them to accept other religions in there life, as there doesnt need to technicly be a god, goddess, or other "hight being" and all those little acceptions that would be made to alow people of the religion to live there life, any ways, the point is, would this make acceptions for things such as gay marrage, on the grounds that it is part of religion? and if so, why is it neccicary that a religion be made to alow homosexuals to live happily, when the decleration is supposed to give us the presuit of happyness, and if loving the same gender as yourself is what make you happy, and doesnt harm any one in any way, then why is is still fought over so strongly? why should personal choices such as this be the grounds of persacuion and limatation?

i never pushed them into a "special category", and maby i am a little defensive, but im just trying to put it out there that a gay guy or any one for that matter, can act how they want to act and not hold back any of there personality, as you suggested, it just depends on how comfertable the person is about him or herself around others. personaly, i dont hold back, i act how i wana act and dont care what people think lol.

well done for compleatly missing the point that alot of gay guys dont care what people think about them any more, if there open, so most dont act difrent around freinds, or even random people.

you can be in a crowd, but still be who you wana be, just gota find the people who accept you for who you are.

psyco, not every one feels the need to blend in with the croud. some gays like to, some do not, its how there personalitys are.

thank you mokele

ok, but the rest of what i said still stands, most gays arnt trying to just stand out, theyre acting how they wana act, though im not gona say all, because there are posers for every group out there.

accualy there are alot of "manly" men who are gay, it is just percieved that most arnt because of a few who arnt and then we are generalized. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged well, perhaps it anoys some gay guys the wait some strait guys try to act all showoffishly manly? most gay guys who act like that are just doin what thay wana do, its how they like to act.

i do this fairly often, and it is very hard to tell between dream and reality, because i also very often have dreams where im caunciusly making disicions, like im not asleep, but i am (sorry if im being confusing). its pretty intresting stuff though.

why is it that people cant accept that there are people who find the same sex attractive? iv seen this more so in men than women, and i have no idea why, especialy when if a guy is gay, doesnt that mean more of a chance for a strait guy to get a girl? any one have any ideas on the matter?

accualy, some homophobics do fear gays (avoid them and such), some for stupid reasons like they think gays have no self controle and will rape them, but other because they see it as something dirty, because theyve been tought that love is to be with a man and a woman, and it contridicts sociaty.

hello, im hear to put the myths to rest! as a furry, i can give you guys the REAL furry perspective, so hear goes: basicly, the furdom (the collective of furries) is just people who share the common feeling that thay want to be/feel they are/have a deep connection to animals. for some, its just for fun, and to others, they take it more seriusly. for the most part, were just like any one else. alot of furries like to draw and look at furrie art, animals that have human charerteristics, walking on 2 legs, having a distinctly human apearence with strong animalistic traits, ect. something odd i have relized is, most furries are bisexual or homosexual. one of the more negitive veiws on the fandom is the "yiffy" aspect, yiffy is porn involving anthropomorphic charecters, though i want to stress the fact that NOT ALL FURRIES LOOK AT YIFY! this is one of the things that people who dont fully understand the furdom assume, that it is all about the sexual aspect, and though for alot of furries it is, it is not the entire meaning of being a furry, not by a long shot. to sum it up, furries are people who like to act like or imagine that they are animals or have animalistic traits, though around normal people, they usaly act like a normal person. P.S id like to apoligize for my spelling, i know its pretty bad lol.