Quantum321

Hello John, the evidence has been leaked out for many years. I will point you in the right direction. Go to Bob Lazars website. He worked at Groom lake (area 51) He actually worked on alien spacecraft and figured out how they worked. Back engineering. What he says on his website has been verified by other people who worked there. Did you listen to the audio in the youtube link I posted. Its authentic. I see that my demerits have increased from -24 ti -31 just because I want to discuss aliens. It's a shame there are so many close minded people at this site. Or are there that many people trying to discredit me? It won't work. The government actually wants the information about aliens to come out. They didn't go public in the past because they hired a think tank who concluded it would cause public unrest and possible panic. The government had turned over all UFO sightings to Bigelow aerospace a private contractor. It is thought it would be better if a private company make the announcement. Here is a NY Times article about Bigelow and Harry Reid https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html In the video I posted above the government admits to a disinformation campaign that continues even today. But too much information has come out for them to hide it much longer. Remember when the Vatican came out several years ago and stated that its ok with them if there are beings living on another planet? Do you know why they did that? Because they were told that aliens exist and it would be better to come out with some statement now rather than wait for them to actually land and reveal themselves. In this report a former government official says "we may not be alone"

Yes. I know that. I am referring to the entire galaxy. Why is it accelerating?

Aliens. How much do we know? Let me begin the discussion by asking if anyone has first hand information about aliens. It's clear information is not always available. However, we have been visited by aliens for thousands of years. Some of the secret files have come out and now we are able to discern what has happened regarding aliens and our government. Thanks to knowledgeable people coming forward, some of their death beds. Youtube has the video posted.

This is nearly fifty years old but it will give you insight into alien presents then. It's an audio transcript of the actual briefing that has been substantiated by several sources. It's beyond interesting.

WOW I am up to -24 now. I wonder how many of the scientists here have been briefed on some of the things I am talking about and choose to try to discredit me? I don't care...

Well, what I think is important to me and I contend that the standard model may be flawed. Just because space-time expands doesn't necessarily mean everything in space-time goes along with it. Ok I have raised my questions and got some great answers. I think we have talked this out. Thanks to everyone for listening.

strange. " So, pretty much by definition, if the space (distance between them) expands then they get further apart. " Yes I know this is the prevailing explanation. But in my explanation of the three galaxies I don't see how space expansion between them should influence them at all.

Strange. " the tendency of the distance between things to increase in the absence of mass-energy (or a homogeneous distribution of mass-energy) are the natural consequences of the nature of space-time. " I honestly don't think that galaxies would accelerate away from each other as a normal consequence of the nature of space-time. You just don't get acceleration from the lack of a gravitational attraction. Sorry, but I just don't buy it...

I did not imply we should throw out everything we have learned. Where did you get that? And I don't think I am being incredulous. I just have not heard any explanation as to how the galaxies are accelerating their movements away. If you say, as I believe that space is expanding then how are the galaxies being physically influenced by this expansion? If you visualize galaxies x, y and z as points in the universe. As the space between them expands why should they move at all beyond the original BB expansion? The space will expand but should have no effect of the original positions of these galaxies.

Thank you but I already understand the concepts of BB and what you are saying.

I am not taking about conspiracies. It's just that so much of what is known in science isn't published to the main stream. I will comply with your rules.

I understand your position perfectly. However, science has progressed far beyond publicized physics and peer review. Advancements have been made that are kept secret for fear other countries may find a way to use it against us. Don't get me wrong, Einstein was a truly revolutionary thinker and changed to world. Its a shame we the public are not privy to the current state of science. For example. Star wars was supposed to have been cancelled. But it wasn't. The US now has a space based laser satellite. Particle beam weapons have progressed. I know this because I have talked with an engineer who worked on them. And while he could not talk about the details he urged me to look up space based lasers on line.

And if I put forth a concept that is not yet accepted by mainstream science how do you know it isn't already a known fact? Because you haven't heard of it yet doesn't mean it does not exist. I apologize if anything I may say you don't agree with...just ignore it.

Giving members the ability to give demerits to others for not going along with the current accepted dogma by mainstream science limits creative thought. As long as anyone does not disrupt the site in an unacceptable way..one should be able to express their ideas

I already said I am not special. Galileo was special. How do you explain the Hubble constant? What causes the galaxies to be accelerating away?