Butch

Well said! Physics...

Or is there? I am no expert, however it seems there must be more ways for photons to interact than just collision with matter. Gravitation leaps to mind as well as cosmic redshift.

Every point in space has relative properties.

Define empty space?

I am looking for a convergence of opinion here... My opinion is uncountable, what is your opinion?

I have considered ways to explain my methodology and goal in this topic... without success, so, I will just begin and I believe it will become evident. Space is composed of an infinite set of points.

I think I have a method for attacking this problem. The discussion will be under speculations under "Macro or micro, where to begin".

Thx, my ego just grew by an angstrom!(relatively speaking).

Seems that would have to be it... I see a paradox relating frequency to charge... I haven't a problem accepting frequency for determining particle type or even mass but how can frequency determine charge... Phase? You know, all this is drawing me back to the underlying framework and the absolute universe thing...

By disappear you mean lack of relative motion?

Awesome! I was afraid perhaps I was stepping into a huge pile... I will take a further look at these. Next obvious interrogative... What can be unique about fields to produce a variety of particle charge and type?

So, same field just a matter of affectation (Relative) or self reference(circular motion)?

I have recently been soaking my brain in quanta... It is beginning to appear to me that fields are responsible for the illusion of particles, charge and mass... Comments?

I have recently been soaking my brain in quanta... It is beginning to appear to me that fields are responsible for the illusion of particles, charge and mass... Comments?

Of course, silly me! However why classically a moving charge, isn't that relative?

Hmm... Wouldn't a dipole present a planar field perpendicular to charge? Ah, classically... Understood.

Yeah, trade wars are great for reminding people that tariffs are stupid and money is only worth what is done to earn it. Isolationism is not practical even in a totalitarian regime! Much less so for a truly free and capitalistic society. Trump and his advisors, as well as many in government elsewhere in the world will learn from this mistake.

Thx, btw we cross posted...

The magnetic property is enough... Stern Gerlach demonstrates this just fine, if the electron has no dimension, then it does have a property equivalent to angular momentum... Somewhat akin to the relationship of acceleration and gravity.

Thanks, I will try that, I am familiar with the principle... I guess what I really need to find is the classical physical evidence for spin. Ok, particles have magnetic fields, we quantized this as angular momentum... Correct?

Thanks, I will try that, I am familiar with the principle... I guess what I really need to find is the classical physical evidence for spin.

Size is magnitude, I get it particles have no dimension... Still lost on spin, I could go on and study quark interaction, but I really want to understand spin first, not just accept and move on.

I can describe the "size" of a particle by its mass or charge... Spin is different, it is not linear. I can apply Coulomb's law to charge, I can apply Newton's law to mass... I can even feel them physically. Perhaps you could provide a link? Maybe the history? Thank you, Strange.

Taken alone I understand each of these words... I am at a loss as to spin and why it is referred to as intrinsic angular momentum, it is not motion, not torque, not spin... Obviously it is intrinsic... Please help, I have been reading all kinds of texts and I still just don't get it.

The way I see it, the only way you could have infinite energy is if that energy we're coming from a source outside of the universe.