ScottThompson

I understand you Thoran. Yes, he is a God of wrath... against rebellious mankind...sinners you and I. I've lied, stolen, worshipped plenty of other things but him, coveted what other people have... resulting in my own greed. Romans 3:23-24. 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. But....Romans 5. 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from Gods wrath through him! 10 For if, while we were Gods enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. That's the good news... the gospel... for those who believe... in Jesus. "Why" he did it this way....i have no idea. It is what it is. But he truly is...a God of love. Thanks. Scott

Jfoldbar.... GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness. GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day. i think there is a difference between sun light...and some other light God is talking about. In fact God refers to Jesus as being the light.... and will be the light when he comes again and there's a new earth and heavens... we will no longer have a sun. So personally...i don't see that as s contradiction in the bible. The bible is very complex....i guess it should be... if it came from God. Thanks. Scott

Thanks Strange. That's so true.

Jfoldbar.... for me, the bible never made sense... never seemed to be some God inspired word.... until i sincerely cried out to JESUS..and believed on him... at age 43. And to be honest...i have found no contractions inn the bible... only one truth after another after another. Not that it doesn't make me scratch my head at times.... but usually it's only a question of "why would God do this or that". To believe he was God... came down from heaven... to earth as a man WITHOUT ANY SIN...and was sacrificed on a cross... as a payment for our sinful nature.... so that we could therefore be considered perfectly righteous... so that this God would take us back... now and for eternally... if we truly believed in this Jesus..... is actually quite a leap of faith I will admit. But my life certainly changed when I did just that. When I didn't just "believe in a God"... but truly believed Jesus was that God! I have put much time into this since I believed. Actually trying to disprove it... via reading all the atheists posts... Scientific stuff, etc. I get challenged, but I keep coming back to God. Not a reason for my faith... but I have found it interesting how people seem to cry out "God help me!!" when about to die (think of the stories of the people on the planes on 911). I just keep coming back to the fact that people are certainly sinful... greedy, murderous, hatred, etc etc etc. But we are also loving too. It "makes sense" to me, that there is a creator God all about love... we rebelled... he can't have anything to do with people like that... and there's only one way back to relationship with that creator God....a sacrifice of a sinless man...JESUS CHRIST. God bless you in your decision. And I thank you scientists for challenging me. In His love, Scott

Hey all, thanks for the input. I'm a Christian and just googling about how things are dated.... so this has been interesting. Believe me, I've got a lot of questions too about God/Christ vs. Scientific explanations. But I keep leaning towards Jesus... mostly because of the intangibles, we certainly are sinful people, but we also are loving people too. It just keeps "making sense" to me... that something must have created love, we are rebellious people... and separated ourselves from that power of love, and that creator of love made a way back to him.... namely the sacrifice of himself...a sinless God man... Jesus. It is a crazy story... but I keep coming back to it. Anyway, just wanted to point out that I'm pretty sure the bible never does define a 6,000 year earth.... so I assume MAYBE it's older than that based on science...but I'm not s scientist so it's impossible for me to understand the carbon dating stuff, etc.... but I imagine it could be reality. Also... just fyi, someone said the bible was mostly written 1,000 years after Christ. I'm pretty sure it's been pretty well proven that the old testament wad written roughly in the 3,000 years before Christ came to earth, and the new testament was written in first 100 years after Christ came. Thanks again. Deep stuff. Scott