PrimalMinister

You bang on about evidence all the time, the evidence is all the facts is it not?

So was it the big bounce an objective fact before it became opinion or was it always opinion. Is the heat death now a fact?

OK, well instead of having a big bang/heat death as a one off event, why not just repeat it. Instead of having just one big one, why not have many small ones, everywhere, a small bang followed by a small death say happening billions of time a second. You seem to say things go through the process of coming to life, then dying. Just look at this same process from a different angle.

Is it possible that a new science could emerge that can explain how to go from a dead universe to a living one, like a new science that scoops up all the deadness and compresses it into a point creating a new big bang?

So the universe from now on is eternal?

What happens after that? Does time cease to exist because there is no longer anything changing? Or do things keep moving about in a basic primodal soup?

Ok, so we have all this evidence and models for the big bang. Do these models, using the same logic that got us from the beginning to now to get us from now till the end, accuratly predict the fate of the universe?

I see the examples of gravity as the bending of spacetime with a planet orbiting the sun. But how does that work for the gravity that keeps me on the surface of the earth?

No, I guess I am asking if there is any logic behind its existance, or is it just a random accident? Or can you not say for sure? For instance, the big bang has no logic behind it.

Logic is the art and science of reasoning, does the universe have reasons (logic) behind it existence? This is probably in the wrong category, I am still getting use to the forums.

Ok, we have laws that govern things in the universe. Gravity is a law, it governs things, it enforces certain rules that keep us (things) fixed to the planet surface.

I am listening this time, that is all.

I have asked this before but this time I am hoping this time to get some serious answers. Please use clear, consise scientific language using models and maths to explain exactly where the laws of the universe are. Thanks.

Logic comes before maths.

I am not soapboxing, I am not talking about my theory, I am just pointing out facts. I am sorry I can't believe the universe just somehow came out of nothing, there has to be some sort of logic behind it all.

To quote John Wheeler: “Some principle uniquely right and compelling must, when one knows it, be also so obvious that it is clear the universe is built, and must be built, in such and such a way that it could not possibly be otherwise.” I trust John Wheeler, I like him. I am not sure I trust people on here.

The laws of the universe are already enforced, but science can't explain how the universe is enforcing them, it just is (God did it).

Are you going to explain how you are enforcing the model? By your will?

Ok, I will play God and show you how to create a universe from nothing. First step, empty space. The is no such thing as mathematics, there is nothing to count or measure. Second step, say "empty space now be composed of pixels" and your will is done. Suddenly, with one simple act, you create mathematics, we now have things to count and measure. Third step, create time. From nothing to maths in one simple step.

Ok, you derive maths from nothing.

It is a paradigm shift, its just looking at the same things but from a different perspective. As John Wheeler said: “Some principle uniquely right and compelling must, when one knows it, be also so obvious that it is clear the universe is built, and must be built, in such and such a way that it could not possibly be otherwise.” Current science (or scientists really, science cant speak) can't explain where things come from. The explanation is "well God did it", except in scientic language.

OK, lets try a thought experiment, its simple, you are God, you are going to create the universe from a blank sheet. This blank sheet is empty space. You now go ahead and create science, your first step is to create laws. So how do you add laws to empty space? There was speculation on what exactly a theory of everything is, I suggested big bang/evolution as a theory of everything but I think (the conversation was stopped) we were about to agree that this is the theory of everything - A theory of everything (TOE[1] or ToE), final theory, ultimate theory, or master theory is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical framework of physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of the universe.

I am being sincere, honestly, try answering the question. You are the specialists. It is similar to asking how are the laws of the universe everywhere. How can laws apparently come out of nowhere, yet be everywhere. Someone said gravity was the prime mover, its not, gravity is part of reality, its virtual, its not real. The only real thing in the universe is the pixels/tiles/cells, everything else if virtual, a part of reality, a reality which is constantly popping into and out of existance. I know you want the math, but I can go better than that, I can derive maths itself from a pixel based universe, The pixel is the first 'unit'.

Well where are the laws of the universe exactly?

So I am waiting for sciences 'well God made it that way so thats the way it is'. This is why in my original post I wanted to talk about the problem first, it IS a problem for physics, its not philosophy.