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An interesting thought. Or Maybe, the sense of self would be increased with little opportunity to familiarize or recognize place or relationship within their reality or environment. I don't believe that consciousness is required for subjectivity, only for its recognition. ie a computer is an objective reality. Its value is One, reality, subtracted from its realtionships to any other objective reality, Its environment. Any other measurable value, beyond that existence is subjective. Components, ownership, brand, damage are all relative. The computer is still subject to time, weather, damage, components and use etc. whether or not its conscious of those. Its objective identification as a computer is independent of all other values beyond its being One. All beyond self/ identification is relative, external reality. Including the housing. They are conditions of an existence or reality to which the object is subject to. Environment.
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Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
The objective is always and only that. One. Reality. Separated out from all relationship beyond its singularity of being. Only the Value is Subjective. In relationship. A measure of value accrued in relation to one object, towards its Objective or purpose. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
I'm pretty sure the objective remains just that, and any measurement is always subjective. It appears to me that this supports and is demonstrated by evolutionary biophysics at all levels, and can account for much of human behavior depending on the perspective assumed in reality. The Objectives provides that. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
The Subjective/ Direction, always leads the potential of an objective reality for positive growth. A value must be recognized, and expressed, for the existence of a measurable state. Form follows function. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
There are no longer clear margins between the objective and the subjective realities. Subjectivity(or direction) is sacrificed indefinitely to 'fix' the state/form into a state of entropy. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
I see that as recognition of an objective reality. Recognition of a state of being that has no value independently. The values taken and responses given, are given subjectively. Through individual relationship to the state recognized. Peoples can respond in concordance, but as an identified collective, the value is still subjectively accrued to that collective.ie humanity, the US or the body affected. It seems to me there are 2 values to the duality of reality. The value can be to state/form or to purpose/function/direction. One or the other only, applies at a given time/context. The application of subjective values to objectives provides direction, structure and is = to the familiarity, recognition and responses given in biology. The objective has a value of One. Only one. It has no value independently, only by its subjective recognition as One. Subjective application of a second value to the objective is reductive. Its belief, or faith- the object is not recognized for the singularity of its being, but by the value or validity of its state in relationship. it reduces recognition of a state of being to its secondary objective. Hence the 'old' definition of racism or bigotry. Blurs the line between the objective and subjective realities so that deviation from its secondary 'characterization", is not recognized in any response, but deemed invalid. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
Yes, if its subjective its perspective dependent and differences will be evident in the value expressions given. I don't see how that disqualifies the duality of its sum. I would expect subjective realities to vary-A different subject is also a different object with its unique state and position in reality. The values recognized to its state and position are limited to those. State and position in reality are altered, through subjective expressions of value ie familiarity, recognition and response for biological entities, inanimate objects and entities both through environmental conditions they are subject to. A Subjective reality depends on the object the value is attributed to. An object until value is measured from that perspective. The value is subjective. Its expression directing the manifestations of reality. -
What is the purpose of Life? Is always subjective to the reality/perspective given. So Objectively, the purpose it serves looks to increase and enhance the values and estates expressed . Its dimensions connected and altered through familiarity, recognition and response, increasing its states and manifestations through relationship. Ie: increasing subjectivity, or subject matter/states of reality recognized and 'assumed' in connections forged.
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Not exactly on topic, but couldn't decide on a more fitting one. I found this Lace Monitor eating my eggs this morning (Goanna) I tried to scare it off, since its been hanging around persistently since it was a hatchling even after run ins with my terrier. Its now big enough to eat him and the chickens, toxic enough to cause pretty bad illness from a bite for the dog and got there on my eggs. I pushed him away from his perch near the shed roof before he could get through to my other dog who was waiting to tear him apart and he ran along the beams to the cupboard in the 2nd photo, dug himself in the gap between it and the roof. He left after we gave him time and space. I doubt hes going to stay away long. we have too much history now for this scare to work I think. I've found an old cage that I should be able to modify with a trap door pretty easily so its moved on site close to the eggs. I'll give him a week to be back, plenty of time to set up and bait. I can release him elsewhere.
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Looks like a type of Dove. I'm not familiar with the species though, Google should help. Doves of...where ever you are at.
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Farmers for climate action is the name of the Ausie group putting out the webinar/podcasts if you are interested in looking further. I suspect (and hope) other similar groups can be found globally.
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Greening a desert. Would this be worth a try?
naitche replied to mistermack's topic in Earth Science
Definitely the case, though goats do have a place in managed systems. Some land care groups are actively teaching system management to subsistence farmers as part of their work. Australia has used heavy stocking rates of goats to clear black berries ( an introduced noxious weed here) and tangled undergrowth from open forest surrounding a dam, larger than our Sydney harbor, preventing chemical run off into the system. Goats are browsers, so used in open, mature forests they can be used to control woody weeds and undergrowth while trampling whats not eaten to cover the soil while waiting for grasses and regrowth. Mature trees are rarely touched while there is sufficient accessible brush. Most of the damage caused by goats is when brushy land cover is already depleted and or stocking rates are too dense. Some regenerative farmers will rotate goats on select parcels seasonally or confine goats to smaller lots for hand feeding excess foliage and trimmings when open forests need resting. -
Yeomans ideas along with Harappans and other related land hydrology techniques are gaining ground around the world amongst farmers, not so much Govt. with little recognition or assistance for the private land owners under taking the projects, though in Australia there are carbon credits that can be used for the larger tracts where this work is being done. Its not economical for smaller tracts to take advantage of the carbon credits due to testing costs atm. The research though is ongoing, mostly privately funded and so far geared to drought 'proofing' and regenerating private lands. The Australian Govt. research institute C.S.R.I.O does support a lot of the actual lab. work and there are often incentives for larger tract owners. The benefits of regenerative land works are greater overall productivity, greater resilience to both drought and flood and exponential increase in carbon intake and storage in soils. Interest in land hydrology and regenerative systems is growing around the world. An Australian group is putting out podcasts for members where successes can be shared and duplicated, carbon credit systems explained and information can be disseminated. Ground up solutions seem to work best from my perspective. Govt. bodies have an over view, but don't have the intimate knowledge to direct effective actions for local ecosystems. Incentivizing local actions and providing support where its seen to be needed IMO work faster and more economically with more co-operation and enthusiasm. Media could play a more a much more effective role, by show casing projects and results for emulation, incentivizing local projects and enthusiasm for real ground up actions. Demonstrations of value need to given, before their effectiveness can be recognized. We seem to caught up in negative loop. Value demonstrations given by media are predominantly negative. The solutions called for by a public so negatively informed will continue to be reductive. The public could also use better information before calling for out right banning of things such as livestock production, while its use in more integrated and diverse systems is essential to long term management and soil health of both grasss lands and open forest. The corporate intrusion into farming practices and supplies has seen huge increases in out put by farmers, but these seem to be temporary, leading to land degradation and increasing need for more chemical and fertilizer resources to maintain. The costs increase, while out put falls due to depletion in soil health. I think if these systems got more media promotion, it would increase their support and uptake, Maybe Govts. would then be called on to implement larger scale systems closer to habitation. Works are often disadvantaged or rendered impractical through legislation targeting the poorest examples of farming practice. With out examples of success to emulate, reductionist measures will appear the only obvious solution.
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Greening a desert. Would this be worth a try?
naitche replied to mistermack's topic in Earth Science
Soils should ideally be covered to make use of any rainfall. Soil microbial systems and health depend on that mulch to modify soil heat and humidity . Uncovered soils have poor ability to retain moisture. The microbial systems are leached and sterile for the most part, with pioneering species often needed to start the processes for successive growth. -
Rooting hormones, methods and other magic... [botanics]
naitche replied to Externet's topic in Other Sciences
Mulberry tree are very fast and easy to propagate. If you just cut a 2 foot tip from the tree branch and pop it into a pot of soil, keep watered it will sprout roots very quickly and should bear fruit within its 1st year. They grow fast and are quite hardy. No rooting hormone or fancy magic needed for them. I have 8 started from before winter and every one has buds and roots come spring. Might help to keep the cutting out of very hot dry conditions for a few weeks. I've never tried such a huge branch, not needed, but you could try reducing that by half and giving it a try as well as the tips as an experiment. Younger, new wood should work better though and the speed of growth is very good. It helps if you strip all leaves except the those on the top tips of your cutting. -
My cheddar was the fail, turned out like a block of sour milk. The only difference was a swipe of the culture from the wrapping of a brie before it was cured.
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No, but I used to have goats and I tried my own cheese. Ended up eating a 1 kilo block of Brie by myself, when no one else was willing to try. Nice!
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I don't see how you can claim an 'objective meaning' to life. What are you actually asking here? What is its value? Its purpose? Objectively, surely that would be to live? To be. If life is the objective. All else is subjective, if any value is to be assigned that act. Those expressions of value contributed direct the collective form taken, even if individually, those are limited to their own perceptions of reality.
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Urgh, yep, that one does it.
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Are human babies the loudest in animal kingdom?
naitche replied to Danijel Gorupec's topic in The Lounge
Carried Human babies would have less need to cry out when the mother is aware and prepared for the 1st snuffle seeking the breast, or squirm of discomfort. I think I recall a study showing that mothers in a maternity ward had a high chance or recognizing their own babies cry fairly quickly from many. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
Ugh. My poor wording again. Value can only go one way, to direction. Application of the objective, to an objective, is the double negative. The value is assumed into the negative, and has become a 'value' since it can only be applied that way, subjectively. Objectives applied subjectively direct structure. Structure which will only support the reality assumed in/by? its implementation. Seems to underpin biological and evolutionary process of recognition and response., and to work in the social sciences, explaining the use or purpose of belief or bias to organic structure. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
Reality can only hold what it will assume or except. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
Only relationship can provide the balance. The subjective. It leads the way. Form/state follows function/direction Identification is objective/reductive. Any measure or value is subjective. Supports the purpose. Subjective values can't be applied objectively, with out creating a double negative. A negative bias. Objective values can be applied to the subjective, but only in service to the whole of reality. Equal in consideration. To provide equal structure. Realities equal as one, otherwise, Naught. -
Subjective, Intersubjective, and Objective Reality Stance
naitche replied to tylers100's topic in General Philosophy
My best hypothesis atm is that objective and subjective realities are equal, as One. If Objective reality is the state of being, with out relationship. and subjective, in relationship. Where a state of being is decided or final, its in decline. Nothing is the only enduring statehood. Its measure must be evidenced. Its equal. The balance between something and nothing is its measure. Identity/Identification is always objective. Without relation to. Defined from the relationships/environment that assign it value. So any measure/value is attributed subjectively, to the relationship between its measure, and its being.