DLTherrien

Thanks. I will check it out. I am getting a better understanding of the math although the process is slow. I am a busy guy with work and school but Little by little I will get it. I find many people use the same math in their explanations so just by reading I am starting to understand it. I can see why it takes such intensive study.

MIt's web site is very cool. You can essentially take any of their courses. Physics, Quantum mechanics etc. etc.

Cool. I went looking for some more on this and I stumbled across this. This seems to be a good way for me to get started on the math and from MIT. What do you think? https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-01sc-single-variable-calculus-fall-2010/1.-differentiation/ It appears to be all free. Cool. The link is the page where it all starts. It seems like all I will need to get up and running will be here. Not just some you-tube video.

I wasn't sure really when I posted. Going by memory which was obviously flawed. Now though I have gotten some cool answers with good explanations of the math. How do we know the mass of an electron. Last time I checked, we cannot actually see one and looking as we all know is detrimental to the experiment so is it just the math that states that and how if so did we come up with that conclusion. I am about to finish "The Grand Design" tonight so perhaps it will answer that question for me.

Just got home from work. I will look them over in more detail in a little while. I was at work when I first responded. Little time to be thorough. It is 4:04 PM here. Dinner time.

That would be what is called h bar then? An h with a bar through the top.That is how I have seen it described. As far as the way I wrote it, I didn't copied from the web just to show how the variable h holds that information but thanks for the detailed explanations. They help anyway. Sorry for the huge image.. Just copied the first one I saw and pasted. The hbar is so we don;t have to write h divided by 2π, A shortcut because it is used so much is what I remember reading. Just notice you already mentioned H bar. Sorry. Little busy here at work still trying to beat the coming rain.

I have an experiment of my own in mind where I will run it and leave it for a month or so and see the results. You just reminded me to pick up two identical time pieces. I'm not scared. I can figure out anything if I put my mind to it. One question I have before I really dive into the math meaning calculus and try to understand it is this. I am aware that the symbols used are just variables; that I am familiar with being a programmer; we use them all the time. Integer, Boolean, float etc,. I will use Plank's constant as an example of what I ask. It's value is 6.62607004 × 10-34 m2 kg / s ... copied from the web; which is supposed to be the smallest possible thing in our universe if I understand it correct. The variable .. h .. Still there are many more which all appear to be variables holding different values which makes sense because the values are difficult to write on their own. Same reason we use them in programming. Do you guys meaning math experts actually remember what they all mean or their values and if not how would you do calculations if you didn't? I hope you understand my question. @swansont,, @Marcus, @studiot and anyone else who reads this.

And I believe then we go insane. That is why I find this so interesting. I have seen and experienced Newtonian physics. They are all around us and come naturally over time to the point they are routine and nondescript. I need things that stimulate my thinking. This definitely helps with that to the point I come up with all sort of craziness but that is the fun part. Once I learn the math which I will, then I can try to prove my insanity which will then make me better at the math and the cycle continues. .What else do you do at 49? Watch football, sit on the couch and complain? Not his guy. Knowledge for me is like a toy. Every time I learn something, I get a new version of my toy. And I greatly appreciate all of your support. You are very patient people.

I am the type of person who gets easily bored with things. Once I get to the point I feel there is nothing more to learn, I move on. This is why I believe I am so drawn to this science. I will never run out of things to learn.

I already get a lot of it and it makes sense although it should not but only because I do study the known facts as we see it. Definitely bizarre but it is what it is. Learning the math is something I aspire to and thanks for the book suggestion. That should help .I study in my spare time online but I have had to even revisit algebra. Been a long time so brushing up from there.

Confucius says: "Man with watch always knows the time. Man with two watches is never sure." Confucius needed to lay off the pharmaceuticals. Walking around with two sundials on your wrist is just silly. As far as what you say about zoning in; that is my intention eventually..

Excellent. Will do. Thanks.

That was a cool way for sure to explain it. I get the whole idea of space time though. Have for some time although I still have questions and doubts about some of the concept such as if time is also a wave, (Possible) how do we know we do not always interrupt the experiment by observing it like it or not and there is no way to come up with a different answer? What I want to know is everything else. My main interest although cosmology and astrology is also interesting is the Quantum world. Time and space for me is really just a side show to that. For that reason I find string theory a path that I am waiting for some answers to develop although it even in name and description will most likely change once something more is understood if ever. There might be a limit to what we will ever know about it. What can be observed directly through experiment might have its limits even at close range. Even before I started to study this stuff I always had the idea crazy as it sounds that the farther we look, we will always find more in our universe partly because it is created by us observing it. After reading a book which was a suggested path to take by others here instead of the internet which i immediately have found is better, and that book being Stephen Hawking's ... The Grand Design, I am learning I may not have been that far off in that theory or like Einstein liked to call it; a thought experiment. Deep I know but if we can truly change the past of a particle by observing it and particles can be seemingly anywhere and everywhere at the same time until observed, how do we know an entire planet or a star could not be formed in and instant by doing the same for countless particles at once just with a glance. There very well could be more to it when it comes to consciousness. Suddenly there is a billions of years old star out of no where because the past choices made by all of those particles at different times for all have just been changed and like the lottery, we have a winner! Are we capable of much more that we know and does it only apply to humans or does anything with a conscious mind also have the same innate or to stick with the favorite scientific synonym ... intrinsic abilities? If we were not here to observe it, would it really be here? My mind has been "lost in space" for a long time. I am interested for sure in the read. I am immediately finding as you and others have said that books are a better way to study and that will be my path for now on. The one I am reading now starts at the known beginning of science in general and by following that path it has made it far easier to understand how we got to the point we are now. Addicted. Couldn't put it down. Four hours sleep. Gonna be a long day at work. I am going to search Amazon for the titles you recommend and others I cannot find in stores. Only way I know of to find even used Physics books other than perhaps E-Bay which I do not trust. When at Barnes And Noble, I looked for the aisle trying to find books on Physics and not such a popular aisle. I had to ask. Tucked way back in the corner in the science section. When I asked, I got he look of "But Why?"

Cool. Thanks I will check it out. I am about halfway through Hawking's The Grand Design. Just starting to get interesting. So, in 1966 they still believed in the aether? Even spell check doesn't believe in that Last ten or so lines of page 25. Most likely will have to order that online. Barnes And Noble didn't have the two you offered. Have to order them also.

HUH? Don't try to elaborate. I will read up on it thanks.

I had that one in my hand but chose the other., That will be my next one. Thanks.

OK, so if I understand you correctly, we will both feel as if we aged properly. That is bizarre! I like it. I actually bought my first book just now,. I believe you recommended some for me as did another but I could not find his at Barnes and Noble so I decided to get my feet wet with Steven Hawking's .. "The grand design" Will be digging in tonight after class. I will check your list also.

Real quick question. I get now that time moves slower for the reasons stated but I have to ask this. So, If I was to travel near the speed of light; even half that speed, does it mean I will age slower and perhaps live a thousand years or does it just mean you here on earth will age.... See, I don't even know how to ask the question. I guess a good way to ask would be with this scenario. Say we hypothetically of course; gradually increased the gravity on earth over we'll say the next 500 years so our bodies would adjust; would that be a way to make us live longer or would we still have the same life span. I guess the one question that throws me as far as the time thing is that. Would it still seem like 80 to 100 years or would it now be more like 300? I'm so confused.

Thank you. I must have missed the suggestions. I will aquire those you suggest. It is obvious I need to re-think my approach to learning and I thank all of you for your help.

Thank you I have found also that the information I find in videos has been difficult not only to understand bit to trust especially depending on when they were created compared to the ever changing ideas on what is fact. I am going to read your links and try to find more time to dive into books on the subject. I really appreciate all of your and others very patient help on this. I will get it eventually. I have been trying to slowly learn the math also. Thanks again.

Actually I believe Marcus has answered most of my questions already and his suggestion is for me to learn more about GR which I assume means General Relativity and I have been trying. I have watched uncountable videos and sat through videos of debates about it including time itself which includes several and different experts in the fields who while trying to not use the math to explain have still left me with the same misunderstanding of what it all really means. I have also read through many articles about the same topics. All of this I do online due really to time constraints with a full time job and classes I am taking at Berkelee for audio production. I am writing this at work on a laptop in my truck. After Marcus's suggestion today on GR, I googled this. "General Relativity explained without the math" and I came up with this which seems to be a decent explanation and has helped me to understand much more. It is a short video and I will be watching others from the same author later but if you could, could you watch and tell me if it is a good way for me to understand it better?

Yes. A big help thanks. It is funny because I was thinking the highlighting text thing might be the answer after I posted.

Sorry.I am still getting used to using the site. This is what I said. So, when I want to just reply, do what I am doing now I guess. I noticed that Marcus for example can quote certain lines of what I said then his response then another quote and on and on. I have been trying to figure out how to do that with my responses is all. Sorry for the confusion. It seems that sometimes I can add a comment in response but others I am only offered the quote option. Am i missing something? Mostly I just want to comment. Any individual text I am referencing from the author I can just copy and paste if I want to quote it.

It is on topic to a degree although I no longer care about it. Could have something to do with the bending of time or I used to think so. There will never be an answer. Like they say... it is not science if it can't be tested.