Taingorz

Nope , you are now confusing 'science' and 'technology". Despite popular opinion, the two have nearly nothing to do with each other. And sometimes , 'technology' helps 'science' a bit forward. But not too much. I really think that in a lot of instances 'science' has hindered progress for technology. And now we are at it, sometimes 'science' stops progress in 'science' which is the case with the the relativity theories.

With all due respect, but you are not saying anything here. You are just saying there has been done things that proof it. Bit nothing concrete at all. And e.g. gravitational lensing can be very easily explained by classical physics.

'Science' never really understood anything at all. 'science' was designed to be a control tool, once the religions didn't work as well as they once did. 'science' has nothing to do with finding any 'truth'. But is IS circular.

Well, sorry it wasn't my intent. Nevermind. But I do agree 'science' is full of things that is not understood. Not a good state of affairs now is it?

You think I do not? well, why do you think that? What does it matter????????????????????? Gee! 'scientists use 'time' all the time (pun intended) , while at the same time they have no clue what it actually is! And you really think it doesn't matter? Ah well.....

Really? Please do you mean that you really don't know what circular is???????

But that is circular! pffffffffffffffffff

That's what I mean. And in the meantime it is used in all of physics! Now isn't that strange?

well, can someone explain what "time" is? without a circular answer that is.

How funny! A clock doens't measure any time, of course. How can it? Time is extremely misunderstood by scientists, still they use something they don't understand all the time. The whole of physics is build on a very weak base. They don't know what 'time', is, nor what 'space' is etc, Still they build theories on this. Personally I call that 'psychotic'. Take time: "Time in physics is defined by its measurement: time is what a clock reads" lol, how circular it all is! Like nearly everything in physics.

well space time really can't exist but I will leave that for now, And experiments agree? That remains to be seen then.Because it is never about the experiments but about the interpretation of the experiments of course. Just a little logical thinking can show space can not curve. You don't need higher math or experiments.

One thing about space and relativity. Doesn't relativity theory say that 'space' is 'curved'. This seems to be an impossibility to me. 'space' can obviously not 'curve'. That one can calculate nonsense with tensor-calculus doesn't make something automatically true of course!

ok then just empty words without any substance. ok then.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But can you please show me where I am wrong exactly? Or is it just words?

Well ok, but the basic inventions, like computers, smartphone, transistors etc, aren't made today by commercial institutions, but years and years and years earlier . Just by intelligent individuals, most of the time with no back ground in science at all. Then 'science' hijacked these ideas. I do agree that 'science' is getting obsolete , and slowly but surely will be replaced by , what I call, 'real' science. Modern science as presented to day has it all wrong, very wrong and has nothing to do with reality. Modern science is full with foolish ideas, like the big bang, relativity bollocks, quantum gobbledygook.evolution shite, the nuclear atom filth and so on and so forth.

Nope, technology is NOT applied (modern) physics/science, Besides computers and thinks like that were invented way before there was any quantum physics. It was marketed indeed. By PR firms. But in reality it was all stolen from people way more intelligent and creative then ahum 'scientists'. Actually it is with ALL inventions that 'science' claimed to be the originator of it. However there is in reality NOTHINg that came out of 'modern science'. Nothing, Zilch, Zero. Everything was made way before (modern) physics. And besides that, quantum physics is extremely wrong, just like relativity , the big bang and so on and so forth. People seem no not to like the idea that all real inventions where hijacked by modern science! While modern science had in reality nothing to do with it. I understand, it is a difficult thing to graps, but there is plenty of evidence.

Now, THAT sounded exactly like the text in the texbooks when I was at University. And boring at that. No, it is NOT the way it works in the real world. I once studied physics/math and clinical psychology. Yes, there is brainwashing going on, starting from early school. And yes, school (including uni) make peopel very dumb, stupid, kills creativity and so on and so forth. school is not very good for once mental health! I do understand people here don't want to see that after sometimes years of swallowing nonsense by the educational ahum institutes. If people only knew where 'education' came from.

I am not again studying per se. I m against dumbing down people by 'education"

Isn't 'science' education" actually brainswashing? Yes of course it is, the whole 'education' system is here to dumb people down, take away their creativity and learn to conform. That's why the theories of 'scientists' are so very strange, they can't think straight anymore and confuse mathematics for the real world. It's a sad state of affairs.

can you be more vague? Gee! This is rather vague and even circular in it's reasoning.

I didn't write it did.

you are being lied to. That's the key.

I really think it is all hoax, used to get public support for changing society,

What I don't understand is that people belive so blindly once it is in a 'paper' There is sooo much wrong with the relativity theories of einstein. He was a rather stupid man, his wife did the math for him! man o man.