DARK0717

clearly, the coil realies on a power source, the source still drains, but at a much much slower rate

You clearly have no information about the coil do you? The coil is NOT a transformer, or a not a transformer alone. The purpose of the coil is to have the path of least resistance and a bunch more explanation linking to more explanation. Basically it amplifies power. I don't like to use this term, but the term is overunity which is impossible but such a simple coil can accomplish this which made me try to find things out myself. And to the extent of testing for weeks, I found an answer. But I want to clarify if that answer the tests gave me is correct and Im sure u know what the question that I want to clarify is.

Its specifically the POE Vortex coil. If you have the time to look it up from their site 1stopenergies.com, I made a replica of their mini version so that's what it almost look like, except mine only has 4 strands of 12 gauge and theirs have 48 which have a much much greater amplification potential. There are no transistors, just the 3 things ONLY. Battery, Coil, Led. You can include the multimeter, that makes 4. No transistors. I don't have the budget and time to even get a transistor and I don't have the best soldering skills and even some electrical skills. The joule thief is a voltage booster only, but in my case, its both the voltage AND milliamps that got boosted, or more accurately, increased or amplified. Its also on DC.

I forgot to mention that the 4 strands are 12 gauge and are intertwined, its about 3 meters, I twisted it using a drill. If the coil is voodoo, then why am I getting these results? The same results also show when the only load is the multimeter but a smaller increase and its been tested for days, same for the LED but with a much more higher increase if you would watch this video, this is exactly what I did, or u can skip to the end to see what im talking about on how it looks like

you see, the coil has 4 strands, it goes around a donut like frame, a toroidal shape, and those 4 strands meet back on the start so input l1 l2 is 2 strands, output l1 l2 are 2 strands, there should be 8 right, well the other 4, divided to 2, so its a pair, the end strand of pair 1 A goes to the start strand on pair 1 B, and pair 2 A end strand goes to start strand on pair 2 B. Yes, I used the exact same battery. To object what you said, if you dig deeper into it, it will start to make more sense and less insane, I suggest looking well and deep into it. Ive read articles, forums, videos, more sites etc etc. so I pretty much know about 90% about this or more.

Ok, lemme tell you the whole thing, don't judge me coz of this. If you know about vortex coils, then good, if not, look it up. I tried to do one to really see if the energy amplification is true, so I did tried it out. I grabbed 2 D sized batteries, put it in series, then hooked the battery to the input line 1 and line 2 of the vortex coil (you may know this as ABHA coil) then hook the output line 1 line 2 of the coil to the LED. I did the tests for days to completely clarify that Im not seeing it wrong, and to ensure that, I put it in a large clothing cabinet with the door opened so that temperature wont change and made sure it wont get touched because slight movements to the contacts may cause disconnections, so only the alligator clips can be interacted with. And yes, I was not seeing it wrong, I already did more that 10 tests for about 3 weeks from now and I am not seeing it wrong. First tests was its only hooked to the multimeter for more than a day and those tests are with and without the coil and there was a slight increase in mA. I did the same for the LED as a heavier load and there it is, read up for the results. So, have I clarified enough? I hope I did, I couldn't answer your questions well earlier, im sorry, its because I was about to go to school and I was running quite late because I had to check the readings. To reply about the batteries warming up and stuff a few comments ago. The batteries were already tested a couple times before the LED test so its probably warmed up as the tests lasted for days, straight, no turning off. I am not that advanced in electronics that's why Im asking the "question". I know the basics and some more above average stuff. And I was only using 1 multimeter because Ive already concluded that the voltage increases after a couple of very longs tests so I only measured milliamps because that's where the energy mostly matters. Higher voltage doesn't mean greater energy if the current isn't flowing sufficiently (amperage), right?

I how could I measure before and after at the same time, of course I have to measure before first which is 3 volts, then I hooked it up with the coil then LED to the coil, and voltage became 6 volts and the mA increased. The answer to your questions about measurement is simple, I measured volts and mA, before, after, in between, etc, except the resistance of the coil. I just need an answer to my question, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN OR DOES IT NORMALLY HAPPEN????

I know that coils do in fact can increase voltage, and yes I measured the volts before and after. So im sure of what I am saying here and they are not just wild guesses. Its just that voltage can increase but with the mA as well??, I cant believe it either that's why I had to ask here in the forums and explain to me if this is natural for batteries or some kind of overunity which is quite impossible.

im sorry, I meant 3 volts and 6

The decrease is when there is no coil, the increase is when there is a coil. Its not an ordinary coil, if u know what I mean, you know what it is. I haven't measured the resistance of the coil, but im quite sure, that kind of coil is the one you would call least resistance. The current increases only when there is the coil. It deacreases when there is no coil. Yes coil = increase, no coil = decrease. I think its waaaay past the expiry data, I dunno. Its a NiMH battery. The batteries were used on a casio piano since the piano can be used with D sized batteries and I used it for quite a while. The voltage output of the batteries is about 1.5 each, so its about 3 volts in series. Speaking of volts, it also increases to around 6 when the coil is attatched. The Increase in mA and voltage wont happen if there is no load, so a load is required to see changes.

Didn't I told you to not ask me why I hooked up an LED for a while to a bettery. Its because im using a specific type of coil attatched to the battery, which you may or may not believe me that's why I tend to not disclose it to you guys, I repeatedly said battery and LED, but I also gave a hint on why I did it in the first place which is I want to test a specific type of COIL. I haven't measured the resistance of the coil but the coil is a bit colder than room temps. I tested it the LED with and without the coil, without the coil, the mA decreases slightly, with the coil, the mA increases significantly and the increase and decrease results show after more than 8 hours of testing with the LED. The mA increased to 49 mA after a an hour of waiting since I commented the one above this. My multimeter is a digital one, a WinAPEX ET8102. The tests I conducted is the same battery, im also not using an ammeter, it consists of 2 basic D sized Sony batteries in series. But Ive tested it for a bit on AA batteries and same results show (which is the significant increase of mA).

Obviously I put the device in a cabinet. How hard is it to conclude that I put the device in a cabinet so it wont be bothered and will still be able to get checked??????? How hard is it that I already gave a hint which is a coil and I used a specific type of coil that is powered by the battery and is connected to the LED????????? So its Batery > Coil > LED

The first comment stated that "You misread which scale you were using and it was actually 75mA initially." I know because I storeed the device where it wont be bothered I have done the test repeatedly and it just keeps on increasing I don't know what type of LED Diode specifically, but it came from a desktop computer case, the LED is the one on the power button which is a red one I couldn't provide pictures at the moment, try concluding with the information I gave. Ill give a hint: Coil

Ok, the LED still lights up, it even got to 41 mA, it wasn't 75 mA, its 7.54, seven (point) fifty four and the battery was already tested for some hours before the LED test, so it should've warmed up pretty well. To be clear, the scale WENT UP FROM 7.54 TO 41 mA, a huge 34 mA difference. I can also assure you guys that there was no misconnection as the whole hours its being tested, the system didn't get touched, moved, or any physical disturbance at all. So have I provided enough information to conclude that its not supposed to happen or its just a normal thing for batteries to do? Edit: The LED is also just one piece and is very small, about the size of 2 rice grains, there were no resistors, diodes whatsoever so its just a raw connection.

so, I hooked up a tiny LED to a 2 pieces D sized battery in series, they are almost dead by now as they've been stocked for more or less a year. At first I was reading 7.50 milliamps, then after more than 8 hours of the LED hooked up to the battery, I read the milliamps again and it reached 39.44 milliamps. Is this supposed to happen, does this happen normally? Don't ask me why I hooked up an LED to a battery for more than 8 hours, youll probably just laugh at me or not believe me or think im stupid.

ok, ok, I didn't intend to release my idea but im working on vortex mathematics. So I first need to understand how changing frequencies work and how to do it, then the convertion of rpm to electrical energy, and u get the idea. Basically im working on vortex coils or rodin coils.

Thanks for the frequency changer, but I was thinking about the small circuit boards that has a dial and is hooked up to an amplifier. Lets say 50k rpm on an ac generator, how many watts, volts, amps? and what is the formula?

ill cut to the chase. how many watts can 50,000 rpm if hooked to a dynamo or a motor/generator?? what is the cheapest electricity frequency changer I can buy why do I need an amplifier when doing coil stuff in a coil, where do I plug in the 2 ends of the coil, my uncle said its line 1 and line 2. is it equivalent to positive and negative sides of a battery???

thank you very much, just 3 more

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