Rajiv Naik

I got the point What you are trying to say. thanks sir for taking so much pains for explaining usually I type on mobile using dictation or handwriting software..so I usually try to keep it short , it could be little unscientific language but usually based on what I read.' hope III be excused for that. I think to. explain why I am saying that pythagoras theorem is the way chosen by all the further mathematics- includig calculus and Tensors in 3d or higher dimensions requires more elaborate explaination. So will have to start from the beginning- I "II try to do it by going through details.. later. Meanwhile I feel that the defination of derivatives is about right angle triangle and finding slope of infinitely small portion.. ultimately .its a piece of information its property of a thing in a space- and coordinate systems are just tools. I thinlK ,,,vectors mathematical properties give rise to complex systems which are represented by tensors, its interesting. fundamental, its logical probability of an event - which has two states in classical physics 1 and 0. I am not really talking about more advanced mathematics or calculus- what I meant was that mathematics. is based upon logic , and also another aspect i.e. rules with wich information /Light travels or gravity travels. they are all functions of this rules of π. einstine was last person who tried to think differently-others are just exploring that physics- thereby so far only increasing the complexity of mathematics involved, last best thing that we have achieved is particle accelerators and instruments like ligo and advanced space telescopes. its too less since our last invention of fission reaction. it has become so complicated that Iwe now need superconputers assist us. Arent there other ways than to follows sterotype mathematically which is just calculation and calculations - taking us nowhere except some materialistic inventions we have (not even to mathematical singularity like other fields in science are doing) I am not an expert at advanced mathematical methods. But I feel they are not difficult either if one spends some time with it. otherwise as my profession, I have a lawfirm and studied Civil engineering also, at Goa , India. -so not a scienceman realy. I will like to stress that my entire Pt. was ,we are heading tonowhere for next 40 years with current math, (except Al which will help us one day) and whatever Petty inventions physisists make after reading and calculating for their entire life is not helping us practically. even Trees and nature are still more intelligent than us and we are like more evolved cavemen. so we need a change in vision in Physics and mathematical approach. this are my pesonal views and nothing personal against scientists or any person. I joined the forum as I am expecting same new approach and minds I could learn about ultimately we should know the truth of universe before dying I 'll try to place. Some Proper material after draftig it on computers with proper references as that is what is expected on this forum (which is great ) I liked this forum, even though occasionally reprennanded- which is intact a good thing - will make me more serious about life and this forum. However If I am not filting in the scheme, and causing inconvinience, I may quit in the interest of others on forums I must thank you all for this, who are learned in the subjects involved.

not much in detail , but up to graduation level. I can understand that its about relative position of particles or any entities in various dimentions or in various coordinate systems. its about exploitig infinity and infinitely small distances .insignificant in calculations but giving a relative position of particles I am now trying, to understand its linkage to unit vector- planc, constant and tensors- in geometrical way ,3 dimensional or more. prima facie personally feel it has reached its limitation and new theories are required. I would like to get enlightened from you on any other meaning of calcules, So that I can improve on my aproach. https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/CalculusProof.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwi72Pv4nu_eAhUUaI8KHTZlArcQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3J5cjynOqfgHqmBJDuD2wh&cshid=1543138530959

what is calculus basically ? its finding a third unknow variable (slope ) c by using two other variables x and y of rt. angled triangle Is it not pythagoras theorem? this is my way of looking at it. but there is a proof by John Molokash dated 20/12/2010. One can google it and see.

- my point was- differential calculus invented by newton is about slope and hence about Pythagoras theorem, isnt it? I have not read much about geostationary orbits - sorry makiy sweeping comment. but long back I had read about Keplers eliptical motion and newtons view about it. Newtons gravity is local based upon Galaleos work.- doesnt apply to space. maybe that is. The reason I did not read it in detail, however fact remains that Calculus is based upon pythagoras theorem. in fact its a device to get rid of infinity problem , giving good aproximation and hence used in classical Physics. but calculus is not really classical,

What I know is: sine functions is not only a mathematical trignometric angular function - it has much more meaning than measuring properties of waves like frequency and amplitude . unit angular vector also has more meaning to it- but it would be very long explaination.a cosmological constant could be one day explained by it. GR is uncertain about it. Sinwave function represents fundamental property governing the manner in which information wave in our spacetime is allowed to propogate. however I think it is assumed here that gravitons and gravitational wave are two different phenomenons? as per my knowledge gravitons are fluctuations caused in spacetime by gravitational wave - it affects spacetime fabric- and hence the time, as it affects the photons Waves (light)travellig in spacetime fabric. I feel what I am saying here is not old mainstream physics tought in colleges, and hence I dont know where your pt. is headig to, if debated further I can explain. - but I need to know whats your view about sine wave -

how existance or nonexistance of gravity depends on theories which postulates it. there are many theories - not only general relativity or quantum field theory. there is explainnation in string theory and superstring theory also - which postulates gravity as open and free string which can travel between universes also- a only link we may have to other universes.

according to my reading- why electricity is treated independently?- its part of electromagnetism. electrons are basically waves with perticular energy- there is only one electron wave and what observed as an individual electron is local stationary particle of the electron wave field . its like when we measure average tempature of room as X, its an average of many particles in room with different temperatures x1, x2,x3.... etc. gluons are the forces which hold all elementary particles togather. decay should involve chaos and thermodynamics . everything ultimately evaporates as a radiation. its suspected that gravity may be due to gluons - but fundamentaly is a force created by spin. its propertional to product of masses involved and inversely proportional to square ofdistance between the masses. Clearly indicating that its a force which is related to angular momentum of Mass- or a spin. therefore I feel that its a centrifugal force.

thanks sir/s for forming this thread . I am little confused here. we all know that speed of light varies with density of medium it enters. for ex photons in water or glass .(even wave can be totally stopped and photon entropped.) so how we can say that speed of light is constant? in denser medium it (wave) partly reflects living very litlle information/frequency / energy there , interpreted as colours. Speed of light should have negative value in such cases when it reflects increasing speed of light in our spacetime is not possible as photons do bring all the information we perceive and hence we are created by photons, which will not allow us to travel beyond the speed of photons speed of light is thus limit in our universe. if space fabric is a medium, it must offer resistance which is function of π. Galaleo measured that gravity follows pie and force on falling object increases at that rate.all our math is thus based on π.. We Know that nature follows golden rule and fractral geometry.. Why light should behave differently then ? my pt. is in absolute vaccume any radiation should be capable of exceeding speed of light. that should possibly explain quantum entanglement also. I feel -in short space is unreal , its created by linear bundles of information broughl. by light and time an illussion without space, its direction being perpendicular to two dimensional information light brings- processed and interpreted by our brain as three dimensional reality.( thats the exact reason we have two eyes?) this is my attempt to add up various things I have read and happening at various places in research Work trying to explain the world around. Are we trapped in spacetime math- and we should change our methods-as in quantum physics this rules are not obeyed bringing us to almost a hault as far as its applications or even modified application like complex numbers are concerned .

as per my understanding vaccume is zero quantum state where radiations are absent. however due to chaotic fluctuations of virtual particles energy of different quanta are rediated for very brief period . the radiation of fixed quanta Creats information or elementary particles of our spacetime.. so warmholes could be source of interaction of virtual particles with fixed quanta of energy (information). creating universes and blackholes is entry Pt. to vaccume where information disapears with infinite speed. vaccume is all around us and 3 dimentional world is just protection 2 dimentional information travelig with the speed of light and carried by photons. of course this are speculations and only further research will reveal the truth. Einstines field equatien is based upon pythagoras Theorem or math based on it and applicable to our spacetime which follows π geometry.and is also based on old interpretation of hysenbergs principle when momentum of particles was assumed to be real . it may not be applicable to vaccume- which requires quantum Physics to understand it.

I first learned about it as Lawrence M. Krauss hypothesis this was later quationed due to discovery of dark energy. however darke nergy or vaccume fluctuations does not interreact with standard model particles, so can not form part of our spacetime which is infact intereaction of standard model particles in higgs field. so even if origin of bigbang is considered orassumed as vaccume(one of the possibilty) and initially it is assumed that there is source to bigbang, and even though radiation of elementary particles Travels through virtual particles by way of vaccume fluctuations with quantised energies .... for all the purpose of our current Physics , Cosmological constant or any other number giving fixed energy to our universe can be ignored , and assumption that total energy of the universe is zero can be held as good assumption for mathematical purposes

according to my understanding- for other elementary particles in standard model. Term quantised has no fixed parameters. its complicated process to quantise energy (including mass) for other fundamental particles which too are radiation waves. its dynamic process. but spectrum defines them to quite an extent. I thinkrest mass can not be quantised as its really a form of potential energy - due to dynamicsof radiation - thus broadly speaking when wave is identified it should be quantised at least for some of the parameters is a rational conclusion one can draw..

ok , let me explain what I meant by gravitons. as per my understanding from what I have read: wave is a radiation with Perticular energy (frequency) and hence perticular amplitude affecting particles of the medium in which it propogates. after receiving the energy from the wave the particle fluctuates or oscillates and transfer the energy it received to next particle, thereby helping wave to propagate to next particle placed at given amplitude. therefore when we observe the wave at given pt. We see oscillating particle : not a moving particle. (hysenbergs principal ?) therefore when there is gravitational wave travellig through spacetime fabric it has to have medium or particle propogating the waves. its energy must also be quantised, or else it can not be a gravity wave. In string theory it is proposed that strings are open in case of gravity and hence it can travel beyond our universe also . there are more interestig Proposition by topmost scientist in theorotical Physics today. however, some people here are greater physicists. .. so I would like to be enlightened Just kidding. seriously. ...We are all curious people here , somebody can explain to me if I am wrong , so I can understand better - instead of -no its wrong- I think acting too orthodoxically is antithesis of science.

but fact remains that there are gravitons - May be properties and nature is not known.

there was gravitational wave last year detected by ligo. it was recorded at least at two places.. I presume there cannot be concept of wave without particles. ie gravitons so Why you say it was not detected - it is bound to be validated, isnt it ?

since I have been told that I am putting my own ideas here, I would like to clarity that what I put here is usually derived from reliable sources - I am not a scientist, but try to read a lot from good science sources for instanceone of latest article from scientific american I am quoting as it relates to the topic here . I can give hundreds of oher references from top scientists in the world for my every comment on this forum If I am permitted. scientific american article : Quach, now at the University of Adelaide in Australia, suggested a way to detect gravitons by taking advantage of their quantum nature. Quantum mechanics suggests the universe is inherently fuzzy—for instance, one can never absolutely know a particle's position and momentum at the same time. One consequence of this uncertainty is that a vacuum is never completely empty, but instead buzzes with a “quantum foam” of so-called virtual particles that constantly pop in and out of existence. These ghostly entities may be any kind of quanta, including gravitons. ... Although Norte’s microchip did not discover whether gravity is quantum, other scientists are pursuing a variety of approaches to find gravitational quantum effects. For example, in 2017 two independent studies suggested that if gravity is quantum it could generate a link known as “entanglement” between particles, so that one particle instantaneously influences another no matter where either is located in the cosmos. A tabletop experiment using laser beams and microscopic diamonds might help search for such gravity-based entanglement. The crystals would be kept in a vacuum to avoid collisions with atoms, so they would interact with one another through gravity alone. Scientists would let these diamonds fall at the same time, and if gravity is quantum the gravitational pull each crystal exerts on the other could entangle them together. The researchers would seek out entanglement by shining lasers into each diamond’s heart after the drop. If particles in the crystals’ centers spin one way, they would fluoresce, but they would not if they spin the other way. If the spins in both crystals are in sync more often than chance would predict, this would suggest entanglement. “Experimentalists all over the world are curious to take the challenge up,” says quantum gravity researcher Anupam Mazumdar of the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, co-author of one of the entanglement studies. Another strategy to find evidence for quantum gravity is to look at the cosmic microwave background radiation, the faint afterglow of the big bang, says cosmologist Alan Guth of M.I.T. One more way to find out whether gravity is quantum is to look directly for quantum fluctuations in gravitational waves, which are thought to be made up of gravitons that were generated shortly after the big bang. The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) first detected gravitational waves in 2016, but it is not sensitive enough to detect the fluctuating gravitational waves in the early universe that inflation stretched to cosmic scales, Guth says. A gravitational-wave observatory in space, such as the Laser Interferometer Space Antenna (LISA), could potentially detect these waves, Wilczek adds. In a paper recently accepted by the journal Classical and Quantum Gravity, however, astrophysicist Richard Lieu of the University of Alabama, Huntsville, argues that LIGO should already have detected gravitons if they carry as much energy as some current models of particle physics suggest. . Charles Q. Choi Charles Q. Choi is a frequent contributor to Scientific American. His work has also appeared in The New York Times, Science, Nature, Wired, and LiveScience, among others. In his spare time, he has traveled to all seven continents. as per new look at hysenbergs uncertainity position of particle cannot be determined because every time its new particle.

you mean stationary charges have no movement because they are termed as stationary? is it not superficial explaination? all radiation are generated from spins and counterspins - so that total of all forces is zero. its methamatically proven.

I suppose geostationary orbit is about gluon forces there are almost consenses now that gluon force and gravity force is one and the same. solutions would requires quantum physics ,complex vectors, not classical physics.

our physics is only one of the solution mathematics provide . Our physics is all about pythagoras theorem or slope.

why not ? than what are gravitons ?

please explain why ?

wormholes are other side of blackholes. arent they? universe is basically vaccume - a radiation free entity,

I think some fundamental reading on role of virtual particles and expansion of universe faster than light speed is needed. Do you mean Universe is not expandeng faster than light. ? all the earlier theories are improving. due to research in quantum physics and string theory. math is also changing dramatically. light travels with same speed in water or glass?

with what. I have read latest - all force are basically due to motion - centrifugal or centrifugal (Electric or magnetic flux) all particles are ultimately virtual particles With different quanta of radiation or enegy recieved from radiation. at Bigbang when light radiation traveled it was with much faster speed than current speed of light, as it travelled its speed reduced as wave slowed down (distribution of energy). (we can see now that universe is expanding faster than speed of light we observe). Paradoxical isnt it? but its vaccume which does it (67% of our universe is filled with dark energy (radiation) photons as well as rest of the particles are basically virtual particles . mass or malter is basically a form of energy-storing information of mass in virtual particles giving them mass or-which we perceive as mass. particles only oscillates or pulsates they do not have momentum. illussion of momentum is created by traveling radiation- (origin of energy-is due. to rule of chaos or thermodynamics applied to vaccume) quantum theory is thus coordinated with modern classical physics. I think this is enough?

gravitational waves means gravity quantaised.

all the forces in the universe are basically centripetal and centrifugal forces creating radiations with diff quantas perceivable universe is just radiations intereacting (in higgs field)and now its suspected that they originates from vaccume pulsations simphony thats only way to combine classical and quantum physics