SerengetiLion

First let's get one thing straight First off, you need not assume I'm a "he" because I'm not. We can get into all sorts of examples for you to understand what I was asking. But since nobody knows what's communicated as far as all adaptations of all species and to "whom" then I have no choice but to keep wondering.

See you're not getting what I'm saying. The giraffe didn't say, ok neck, grow longer and the next generation said the same. Something is communicated to to achieve these adaptations. I wouldn't think the giraffe had much say in the process or at least not concious of it.

Ok, so what ponders me is, take the statement about the giraffe, if the giraffe came to realize if his neck was longer he could teach the leafs on high branches then what lines of communication were/are used (in natural selection) to ensure that would happen. It's as if the giraffe told something with a working, thinking mind and (it?) came up with the plan to achieve this. I mean don't anybody wonder this too about natural selection where all adaptations to all species have become so?

It's just that some people can control their desires better than others

Why do some of you just have to be over scientific when responding to a question? You're not helping at all.

I so agree with you because nobody knows our undesirable thoughts that consume some to the breaking point.

I wonder if the movement of time in that it's constant is dependent upon the universe expanding?

I'd be happy to tell exactly in what my true story is on the subject. I would give my back ground and all the details leading up to my not believing in god 4 years ago when I was 51 years old. But what would it matter to someone who still believes? Imo, people can't make you believe or not believe, it is a personal realization that leads to ones decision. So agree, one can see things are going terribly wrong here on Earth for the bible's depection of such a loving and just god to have created it and run by him. And imo, it will remain as so until the majority of individuals on earth come to the realization there is no god and now it's up to us humans to have real discussions on how to greatly improve things instead of praying out to a god that cant do anything because he cant hear anything because he dont exist.

Forgive myself? That's quite comical because forgiving myself doesn't apply as I've done nothing I feel is wrong to myself. And another thing christianity is not the creator/basis for being able to forgive nor any other positive aspect of human interaction with another. It makes me pissed knowing our species hasn't evolved into 100% knowing not to believe in such things that others "make up" with no proof whatsoever.

To et pet. Omg ( no pun intended) I think you're a brillant individual in all you said, the way you said it as I too feel the same way all the way down to no capitalization of the subject matter name. I always make damn sure I correct the auto correct for typing on my mobile device when I use that "word" in any application that warrants it. Anyway your rendering is so spot on I had to elaborate.

What I realized also is that we don't need to believe there's a god to be good, nor a devil to be bad. All those years I thought it was my belief in god that made me do good and not do bad but I haven't changed in that sense. Anyway I came to my own conclusion there was no god having no input from anyone on the subject. Another thing is when I believed in god I was prejudice somewhat toward other people but now I'm not. I think it's so ignorant for people to pray to god thinking all things will be handled by this (non existent) being and until everyone comes to this realization that no such being exists it's up to us to make this world a better place.

I was 51 damn years old when I finally wised up. How I wish I would have been much younger when I realized. So for 51 years of my life I lived a lie. That pisses me off.

Like I said I'm not swayed into making a decision on what another one says, like you in this instance, go ahead and remain ignorant in your thinking cause I can make decisions on my own by what I perceive to be good and in my best interest. How ignorant it is to make a decision based on what others think. For the record you haven't a clue about who I am and what I know. Now run along. Immature and dont esentially know squat about life. Now you run along too.

Now why would I post it here only mattering to me when it's already jotted down in my mind? People, better yet nobody in this world sways my decisions about anything. In what they say or say they feel.

And Lawrence is 100% correct in my views. When you understand "why" the bible was written you understand why no loving god that's depicted in it can and don't exist .

Wow have I got some things to say but who will it matter to? Just saying.

Well, lol I google searched it and the results pretty much gave truth to this. Water isn't wet until it comes in contact with something else. I just can't wrap my head around that..

I can tell you this. I'm an introvert, have been all my life, the ones I've had sexual relations with are ones I was attracted to and quite specific as in anyone who don't meet the qualities I desire don't cut it for me. Interestingly, they were each extroverted.

Someone I work with told me that water is not wet. If this is true that's the simplest way to fully understand this?

Was that really necessary to post your "we knew that yesterday" comment. And it is exciting for myself and I'm sure it will be for others. I have no formal education on the subject matter either, I'm too like you in that I search and research things of interest. There's things I bet I'm more knowledgeable of that you're not but at the end of the day any science subject that more and more people get interested in is always an exciting prospect even if I'm not pursueing it at the moment.

Surely so! Do you have any education on the subject?

Oh my, I feel the same exact way, all life just frigging happened, period, with no help or intervention from a being that had any kind of process to make a plan with any desired outcome.

Ponder that for a minute. To me that would explain the giantnormous diversity of humans to humans and species to other species. All living things. Especially since we know when DNA copies itself it makes errors..

Lol, I have not the slightest intention of "testing" the idea. It's merely a thought as I said.