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thought i might get an interesting debate here, the science forum was dull, this one is slow, think ill move on... nothing going on here, letting topics wander is how you get intersting POV's developing.

the fact is the people most suitably qualified to survive as politicians are the least suitable to be given public trust and the key to the public bank account. Trump is different., he isnt a career politcian, hes a businessman with a transferable skill set.

Oh I could write yo ua 10,000 detailed analysis, but a) ive found you have to keep it to words of two or less syllables, and under 150 words so the dumbed down millenials can keep up, and B) it 10 oclock at night here and i cant be arsed.

Absolutely, Iran and Saudi Arabia, the source of islam . And if you are going to compensatae slaves, why are you discriminating against none US slaves? Were the ones in the US just lucky ?

yes. And a large number of the black slaves we're talkign about went thru the hands of moslems slavers. Lets take this all the way back to the source, eh ?

Actually, moslems continue to take slaves in Africa to this day, one of many examples was Boko Harem in Nigeria taking 200 schoolgirls as slaves about four years ago. ISIS took Yazidis as slaves in Syria during the recent war. And lets establish another point. Moslems were slaving in africa FOUR HUNDRED YEARS before the white man got there. Its just that they used to ship all the slaves back to the Middle east to sell them, whereas when the white men turned up they bought them on the spot, instant profit. Whats's more, white men abolished slavery more than 150 years ago, moslems still havent, slavery is still commended in the Koran. The number of slaves taken by moslems in 1400 years dwarfs the number turning up in the USA by at least a factor of ten. So, if were going to go round retroactively laying blame an culpability then the two countries that need to bear the brunt of paying reparations are Iran (the leader od Shiite islam) and Saudi Arabia (the leader of Sunni islam). And the other observation I have to make is all this bollox about reparations is really a cover for a part of the UN plan Agenda30 to distrubute thge wealth of the west to the East, without any of the recipents actually having to do anythign in return. Personally get sick of the west being blamed for slavery, when the Big League player was and still is Islam.

im 64, what ive learned in that time is all politcians are lying two faced bastards who are thinking of their bank balances.

"in the public interest" is a metaphor for "in the interests of the politcians or global elite."

All this apologising for stuff from hundreds of years ago is bollox. It was a different world and different people, with a different set of morals, ethics and sense of right and wrong. In their world , they did nothing wrong , as judged by thier peers. You coud ltake this to ridiculous lengths. As an englishman, i demand reparations and an apology from Sweden for the VIking invasion of Britain in the Dark ages, for all the rape, pillage and burning.

OFC the world is heading for war. There are three simultaneous groups plotting world domination: 1. The Global elite, out to destroy western democracy. This is what the EU is about, the totalitarian EU superstate. 2 Islam, out the create the world caliphate, in which we convert, die or are enslaved 3. The International Marxists, out to create a totalitarian dystopia via UN Agenda30 all these are heading towards each other like a planetary train crash, and at some point Free Men will have to tackle all three. I doubt we can. I suspect whats coming our way is Kardashevs Last Great Filter to Level 1 Civilisation, and we wont survive it. At the moment it doesnt look good.

well, semantics. How do you know Quantum teleportation wont be scaled up at some stage, with the arrival of current unknown new knowledge? Fact is, you dont. The past evidence suggests it may well be. thats preciesly whats being worked on in some Labs Im open to all ideas, but the one statement i will mock, set fire to an wee on is a claim somthing is 'impossible' or will never happen. You have no knowledge of future knowledge that may change the ball game. Even FLT, i believe wil have a workround. Espcially if as i espouce elsewhere on here, time doesnt exist, its merely an illusion.

Ah well this is a perfect example. First of all, Einstien didnt say yo ucant travel faster than light, all the equations do is go infinite at excatly c, each side of c the line gently slopes off. So if yo uare created at above c, then the problem is SLOWING DOWN BELOW c. The next problem is time. The arrow of tiem is determined by entropy. entropy is governed by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which itslef relies absolutely on two completely unproven, untested assumptions, that a) the universe is a closed system (Ther eis no proff it is) and b) the amoutn of mass-enerygy-information is fixed (of which ther is no proof). The second Law may well be wrong for the Universe as a whole. If thats the case, Time may well be a local phenomena, creted as a consequence of spntaneous up collapses of wave functiosn , genertaing local time. There is no such thing a Universal NOW. All NOWS''s are relative and may even not be dependant. Ther may not therfore even be a tie dimension, ther is NOTHING in any of the equations that demands a time dimension. Which actually makes sense To observe an nD object you have to observe it in nD+1 - to look round the back of a 3d box, you move thru D4 to get round the back. Every dimension contians 1 axis - up/down. left/right back/forward, call them what you will A 3D object thus has 6( oir 3 if you call them axial) freedoms of movement. So consider - we also have a freedom of movemnt in D4 - foprwards and back wards (in tie, or spatially, its the sae thing). The line in D4 represenst all possible NOWS in the 3D frame. We can, however only observe ONE planck frame inD4 at a tie. This flicking forwards thru the plank fraes is like flickign thru the fraes on a movie. You only see one at a time. in D5 we have NO freedoms of movemnt, just one single point, that represents all possible NOWS in 4D. Ill expand ore on this if you want, but now its time to cook a curry.......

The wide eyed innocence of most peopel when it comes to AI is amazing. I worked in IT all my life, i started as a Junior programmer in 1978 writing COBOL66 and FORTRAN77 before the Internet was devised, and worked up to 2007. I did a BSc in Computing Science specialisng in Expert Systems, or what is now called Machine learning AI hasnt event got started. what you are seeing emerging is whats known as 'weak' Ai - systems that can only learn one task, like bricklaying or facial recognition, or spotting trends ins mountians of data . We have not yet got off the ground with 'strong' AI, that is, systems that learn and then apply that learning to an entirely new, unrelated problem, eg a self driving car that can then learn to fly an aircraft without new programming ,rules or hardware. Now lets make an observation which, when you look closely is startlingly true: Science fiction has a habit of coming true. Look at, for example Star Trek, from the 1960's. Almost every bit of 'space' technology they had, is now in use, or under development, - communicators, tricorders, matter transportation, sub light drives, cloaking, even warp engines (the Alcubierre drive). EVERY job that doesnt require human ingenuity CAN and WILL be replaced by a AI system or robot, and twenty years later, even that wont save your job. In the relentless pursuit of profit, capitalist companies have no compunction in discarding people, the ultimate despensible part of the machine. This is going to present a massive problem for the planet, because it will eleiminate millions of jobs and create hundreds of millions of unemployed. So, society has limited options: 1. Create millions of NEW jobs so far no one has thought of, to redeploy the unemployed, and make jobs protected from AI or rbot takeover (never going to happen) 2. Accept that millions of people will never work again, and pay them a living wage for doing nothing, OR, accept that a 'full time job with a living wage' will only entail aboout 10 hours work a week, and all the remaining jobs have to be divided up the remainign jobs between the population . 3. Realise that having millions of people unemployed with no prospect of bettering themselves is a reciepe for civil unrest and its how warmongers like Hitler and Stalin rose to power 4. Cull the population down to fit the job market size. (and Id like to point out the UN Agenda30 plans to do exactly that - cull the human popualtion down to 1 billion people living in 50 megacities, and barred from owning houses, land, cars, and banned from the countryside ) Either of those options is going to be a tectonic change in the way humans live, and will rock this species far more than the invention of printing, the Industrial Revolution or the Information Age has done so far. When you add to this the current progress of the competing plans such as Global Elite plan to create One World Government, the islamic plan to create the World Caliphate, the International Marxist plan to create a World Socialist Dystopia, then i believe that we are thus approaching Kardashevs Great Filter, at which we will fail.

Thats because Maths isnt a science, its a religion. or an Art

I love statements that assert something is 'impossible'. Such statement are utter bollox. At best you coudl write "Within the extent and framework of current human knowledge, xxxxxx seems to be impossible". Fact is I could post a long litany of things eminent scientists declared 'impossible', but happened anyway. And this is because you CANNOT PREDICT WHAT NEW KNOWLEDGE, SCIENCE, OR BRANCHES OF SCIENCE WE MAY UNCOVER IN THE FUTURE THAT WIlL MAKE THINGS WHICH ARE NOT POSSIBLE NOW, POSSIBLE AT SOME FUTURE DATE. In 1890 you could not have predicted cars, airplanes, space rockets, world war 1 and 2, electronics, sattelites, mobile phones, television the internet , computers, heart surgery , genetic engineering, nanotechnology, lasers, missiles, LED's, transistors, ......and on and on. However, you CAN say from looking back at the past, that science fiction, which is usually written by blue sky thinkers,. has a tendancy to come true. Thats why all the Space tech used i n Star Trek in the 1960's is here now or undergoing development - phasers, cloaking devices, communicators, tricorders, impulse engines, warp drives, teleports.....