scifimath

Is this entrapment so I start talking about my theory?

What? Can you read the experimental results of any quantum experiment or not? I just explained it, you don't get to deny it.

I won this battle, you don't get to handwave it away. You want science? It just got updated. This was the lynch pin for my big theory, someone might want to look at it again.

I don't care what you call it, it's just the way it is. Duality is dead.

I got the memo, the final screen isn't measurement because it's not while the particle is in flight.

Last I heard, observation caused wave collapse. If you think the final screen is observation then you assumed wrong.

well, say something

Someone was trying to claim the matter wave of an election should hold the results as an atom. Fringe is not evidence of physical objects interacting. knaww, I think I got you guys on this one. You are kidding yourself if you see the final screen as observation ..the particle didn't.

So I guess I found the spot you guys don't want to let go of. It most certainly is not bollocks when it comes to what is counted as observation. Observation has to let the particle to continue moving or else it's void.

What instrument measures the wavelength of a matter wave? And don't say a calculator. The final screen doesn't count as observation because if it did ..the particle would not ever show fringe.

You can physically measure the wavelength of a matter wave? Interference is the final screen. Observation is only involved while the particle is in flight.

when does observation show wave-like properties? The final screen of an experiment doesn't count as observation

Observation gives one type of result ..a physical one. (unless you messing around with polarizers) Yes a parlor trick was going to pull me over to your side.

You aren't taking observation seriously, because if you did, you would know duality (at the same time) is nonsense.

then why did swansont say this

Previous threads that were shut down prematurely. yes, the illustration is clever, but I don't think it applies. I'm fine with duality ..just not at the same time.

First, are you claiming they are both at the same time or not? What started this assumption? In what world is an electron equivalent to a whole atom? So, I'll take this to mean we haven't tested two unobserved atom matter waves interacting? Oh, we have, but it does the typical thing of a fringe pattern. They don't ever bounce off each other like they were physical at the time. hmmm I'll bite, what does your electron experiment look like? Does it somehow display the electron and wave version at the same time while it propagates on its path? Why would orbitals have anything to do with what I'm asking for? I'm not interested in atoms exchanging electrons. You are assuming they are both at the same time because you are not taking observation into account. You wouldn't catch a quantum wave being a wave before it went through a detector (that it was moving towards). The particle is likely pre-set to be physical or a wave before it starts moving. This is what the experiments are showing us, no?

what evidence?

I'm not allowed to talk about my theory. Show me how I'm wrong.

yep, you got me, I didn't discover anything worth talking about.

The admins don't want you to know that a particle is either matter or a wave (not both at the same time). Waves are able to tunnel or fit through gaps that are smaller than their physical structure they are supposed to represent because they are only waves of information. Placing a detector that allows a particle to continue moving will set what the particle will be(state) before it starts moving. (wave or physical) The quantum field knows the path a particle will preside before it exists. If it is expected to be a particle, it will swap to spacetime and not the quantum field.

It knows if a detector has been put in its path before it even starts.

You getting defensive tells me I'm on to something. It is relevant because it is saying it only matters what happens while the particle is moving.

It seams to only matter if a detector is placed that allows the particle to continue moving on its path.

electrons are pathetic when it comes to physicality QFT almost has it right