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Pessimism mixed with optimism helps us prepare for the worst. Pessimism helps us see the worst. Optimism gives us the spirit to deal with it.

Which is why I said a mix is necessary. Or do you seriously believe, that society can function optimally with only optimists?

But that doesnt mean he'll over react.

The pessimist.

I am not a healthy mix 😂 That isn't a pessimist. That's anger issues. A pessimist is a bad person who actively seeks revenge. We may offend people with our words, but we don't hit cars because they are trying to overtake yours. What country are you from anyway?

That is not a pessimist's inner dialog. I am a pessimist. That f**king idiot is definitely going to come through my mind. But not stamp on the brake. Who does that help? And the optimist won't think, why's is he in a hurry? I'd better let him pass. That's a door mat. An optimist's first thought would be maybe he's going somewhere important and he's in a rush.

That is why i said a healthy mix is nessecary.

I still believe that pessimism is necessary. It makes us question ourselves. Optimism helps us find the answers to the question pessimism brings up. Critical thinking is simply finding a logical solution to a problem. Pessimism finds the problem.

Hmm. Putting it that way makes sense. Optimism does have its benefits however. It allows the common man to see other possibilities, as stated earlier. A healthy mix of both optimism and pessimism is what we're after. But as we are in a society that tends towards the latter, we may not attain this equilibrium for some time.

Right now we're arguing optimism vs pessimism. Which goes nowhere. So I won't step in that pit if you won't.

I already said that wasn't the right choice of words. Phi corrected my mistake and I acknowledged it. Further discussion is demeaning. A positive outlook. It tends to obscure faults. I would much rather prefer a partner with one than change my pessimism. It helps me improve what I feel is imperfect. But your advice still has ground. I'll stay a pessimist, but I'll try to be a bit more open minded. Now. The subject at hand. Do we rap it up or?

...that's actually beautiful.

Maybe. Wed have second thoughts, but itd still happen

Soapboxing huh.... I guess I didn't comment on all of the solutions offered. I have yet to state my mind on the subject of money, but I felt you had already responded to that adequately, hence I stepped out. I did respond to a few other options, eagerly waiting their responses till now. But most of the posts have been on how we are developing, which is why it seems im sticking to my view. The argument before was about optimistic improvement, everybody contributing to society. That already happens. In a far more realistic manner. They're called jobs. People around the world are putting in effort to change it in their own way. To be a part in a wheel of progress. Which is why I'm angered when someone says we can do better. It's essentially condemning a man's life work as everyone is already working according to the standard. I'm condemning the standard, which is why I'm being general. I can't travel. And the amount of knowledge I can acquire on a topic like this is limited considering what I'm actually focusing on. That's why I placed this discussion on the lounge. To be discussed casually. Although my thread might be taken down after this, which I really don't care about as while this is a fun community, things like that happen. My opinion on speeches stands. I've never believed in a speech without action. It's been very hard for me to learn because of that and has been a challenge I've been working on. But if you're going to tell me x=y, give me examples instead of just telling me. I don't understand biology. I admire the design of the human anatomy and hope to implement it into my future designs, but for now I can only speak like a simpleton. Forgive me for that. Lazy might have been a stretch. Your analogy is much better. As for the notable, which is to say, according to recent arguments, all of us... I might have seen too much of the contrary to ever believe that people are good at developing. I've never met someone who actually chased change. I've only met people who want to get a good job, want to make money, e.t.c. I've met horrible people who've disregarded everything they've been taught for a quick thrill. I've seen people suffering and failing to reach their dreams. I've seen the blood flow from the shot up corpse of a brave man killed by common crooks, who are a product of this failed society Forgive me if my view is biased, but I can't help it. I don't see development in a place that so badly needs it. Hence I don't see any sensible development. Go to space if you want, but until you somehow manage to transform it into a habitable plot of land, overpopulation us still a problem. Propose suitable alternatives to toxic chemicals. Until you manage to monopolize the market, we'll continue to kill our own planet without a second thought. Propose crazy new building plans, they don't matter if they never even receive their funding, do they? This is what I mean by lackluster development. Let science help substantially in those areas for a change. I'm a creationist, thank you very much. And what winner?

Im fine with it. Its the expected by product of overpopulation. Thats what I hate Irony? Elaborate

....Are you being real right now? I need an actual method not a speech. Humanity's had tons of those. We just seem to be deaf don't we? I'm sorry for my tone, but people aren't angels and I dislike when people seem to think that. We are greedy at our cores. We don't need a reason not to improve. We just won't if it's inconvenient. That and the whole world war thing that kind of scared governments but that's another topic.

You said, can't we all do that. Yes a few notable people have stood out through the ages, but that's exactly what makes them notable. Humans are designed to be lazy. It takes a lot of willpower to accomplish great things. Nor everyone has that.

True. Now say this sentence to the other 7 billion people on the planet. And let them accept it. Good intention, implausible solution.

Alright. Lets have a discussion then

I'm studying weapons engineering. That is incredibly optimistic.

Funny reference. But lets look a little deeper into door #1 I was responding to the first part of your statement. That my argument was too broad and vague. Hence I expanded on it. I agree with the second part, which is why I left no comment on it.

Oh. Alright then.

Sadly, improving this generation does not fall in line with my goals. Not that I don't make efforts to improve, but what I improve on is not going to be of much use to a whole generation. But the people it's for would hopefully appreciate it. Thank you for the advice by the way. I see you struggled with your English there. May I inquire your nationality? I don't understand the question. Do you mean my field or beliefs?

I want to fight, but I can't do it without sounding cold. I don't want to leave a bad example for future aspiring scientists that bump into this post. But in my opinion, we need both plants and animals to survive. And the dependency can vary depending on the region. People who live near water are going to rely on fish, not completely but inevitably. People in deserts....yeah do I need to explain that. People in the Arctic, same as the desert. Some people need meat. To them its far more efficient than spending what could amount to billions on transforming the landscape, with the delusion that their obviously barren lands would become lush forests.

Oh I assure you. Africa is going to remain the same. Asia along with us. We respect our food. But we realise its there for us to eat. Why we would let all those nutrients be wasted and focus solely on plants, which by the way, will worsen overpopulation as we will need massive amounts of farmland for that much vegetation. Animals may harm your conscience, but they are efficient. No not really. It was a genuine question. I'm serious. I'm working on my writing and I would like to know how you got that impression