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I just note the hydrothermal vents as an example, I do not intend to discuss that potential energy source here or anywhere else. Having said that I will close this with this ed

Strange-- Please forgive me. I will never again post in one of your forums

That is what I am trying to figure out. I also came up with another way to get the gas to run the system. Thermal vents are under a huge pressure. The pressure is so great that the gases do not bubble out as a gas. If we could pipe that compressed gas upwards the gases would bubble out and this gas could be used to run the system. One small draw back, this gas os over a mile down. You need to look at this in time. At any one moment in time, ten (10) balloons are pulling “together” while at any one moment in time you are only filling one (1) ballon. Or a better way to look at this as umbrellas.

What needs to be determined or calculated is how much energy it takes to fill one balloon compared to the force generated by the ten (10) balloons pulling together. Just saying its not enough is not enough to discount this idea.

It is the combined lifting force of the ten balloons that generates the real power. While it only takes the energy to blow up one balloon at a time to keep the system running. I call this the multiplying effect

That is one of the reasons I came here. There are a number of calculations that need to be done before its potential can be determined. That's why I am here. It is the combined lifting force of the ten balloons that generates the real power. While it only talks the energy to blow up one balloon at a time to keep the system running. J.C.MacSwell, I am here because I need your input. fire away

It is a question I want to discuss the mechanics of the system and whether it could produce useful work. The speed of the rising bubbles needs to be calculated along with other variables I came here because this is where the brightest of the bright congreate

SeaPower description Attached is a diagram that details a new energy generating power source using the expanding rise of air underwater as a lifting force. This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. In the diagram, there is a linear row of balloons. The lower balloon or inverted umbrella; is injected with 300 cubic feet of air compressed to 18 ATM resulting in a volume of 16.66 cubic feet of air. When the first balloon rises 99 feet (3 ATM) a second balloon attached to the first one is injected with 300 cubic feet of air compressed to 16.66 cubic feet of air. In the diagram provided this process is repeated having five (5) balloons rising. The upper balloon at 3 ATM has a lifting force of 6.400 pounds The next balloon at 6 ATM has a lifting force of 3,200 pounds The next balloon at 9 ATM has a rising force of 2,133 pounds The next balloon at 12 ATM has a lifting force of 1,600 pounds The next balloon at 15 ATM has a lifting force of 1,080 pounds --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total pulling force is a continuous lifting force of 14,413 pounds Principles to run the machine [1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container; [yes] [no] [2] connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y) Which is a greater lifting force than (Y); [yes] [no] [3] the energy needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain the combined lifting force of the 10 (ten) containers referenced above minus the energy needed to keep it running. ; [yes] [no] This mechanical process can be converted to electrical output. If it takes less power to keep the system running than the output created; then this is a positive idea. If not; this is a dead horse with nowhere to go. See diagram in next post. Comments pro or con are welcome SEAPOWER4.pdf EI INCUMBIT PROBATIO QUI DICIT NON QUI NEGAT Latin, meaning The burden of the proof lies upon him who affirms not he who denies.

wrong forum-i will try to delete it

SEAPOWER4.pdf

SeaPower description Attached is a diagram that details a new energy generating power source using the expanding rise of air underwater as a lifting force. This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. In the diagram, there is a linear row of balloons. The lower balloon or inverted umbrella; is injected with 300 cubic feet of air compressed to 18 ATM resulting in a volume of 16.66 cubic feet of air. When the first balloon rises 99 feet (3 ATM) a second balloon attached to the first one is injected with 300 cubic feet of air compressed to 16.66 cubic feet of air. In the diagram provided this process is repeated having five (5) balloons rising. The upper balloon at 3 ATM has a lifting force of 6.400 pounds The next balloon at 6 ATM has a lifting force of 3,200 pounds The next balloon at 9 ATM has a rising force of 2,133 pounds The next balloon at 12 ATM has a lifting force of 1,600 pounds The next balloon at 15 ATM has a lifting force of 1,080 pounds --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total pulling force is a continuous lifting force of 14,413 pounds Principles to run the machine [1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container; [yes] [no] [2] connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y) Which is a greater lifting force than (Y); [yes] [no] [3] the energy needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain the combined lifting force of the 10 (ten) containers referenced above minus the energy needed to keep it running. ; [yes] [NO] SEAPOWER.pdf