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Hi studiot, glad we can talk specifics. Just a note on the current state-of-the-Art regarding microcontrollers and edge computing. You should take a look at TensorFlow + uTensor its what we have used and it allows a well trained neural network to run on a 250 K of RAM processor: https://os.mbed.com/blog/entry/uTensor-and-Tensor-Flow-Announcement/ No calibration, no fft measurements(at least not for training), just plain 1 Dimensional data. The regular approach on teaching a neural network to hear sound is actually to make it a spectrogram "picture" and then applying image recognition over that "picture". Science Paper We dont follow this approach, we just pass a liner vector of raw sound data to a trained neural network. Normally you were not able to just inyect raw data to a neural network, at least not into a microcontroller. See sometimes things are simpler than they seem, we have designed an algorithm named: Wait-a-Minute. The key is not how to evaluate that data but when, thats the key. Imagine you tell an old man to listen to the pipes behind a wall and keep asking him: 'Hear anything?' he will be able to tell you yes or no most of the time, but if a truck passes by he will tell you : Wait-a-Minute...

Why would i you ignorant! People in this post must watch this:

First patent legal framework is not uniform across the world and its economic areas, second you dont know what you are talking about, "inventive enough" is a subjective argument ... So just as a little hint, this is what is not patentable in sweden: According to the Patents Act, an invention cannot only constitute: a discovery, scientific theory or mathematical method, an aesthetic creation, a scheme, rule or method for performing a mental act, playing a game or doing business, or a computer program, a presentation of information, a procedure for surgical or therapeutic treatment, or diagnosis, to be practised on humans or animals. But again someone with ignorance in the neural network field would not see any break through in this, and would only see a man with stick, fooling himself he is so proud he discredited an idea, but is its lack of understanding giving him a false thought of confidence when he talks. And you sound VERY confident to not even have looked at the inners of the idea, or by other means not even knowing wat a neural network is! Here you go: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01413870

It cannot be patented Your incompetence is so extended that you dont see that the value in this idea is not the idea itself is the training of the neural network, hence a brain with no training is just meat. You should train a bit more...

Yes, thats one of the applications for it, this proof of concepts makes use of the man with the stick principle: https://www.lep.co.uk/business/meet-leak-detectors-and-their-wooden-listening-stick-656032 and takes it next level with artificial intelligence and a wide training set for a neural network.

Again, WHO is talking about a PRODUCT?, i am talking about an idea and its applications in real life, during the post you turn it into a product making statements on how hard sevaral aspects would be to implement, fine with me, but then dont complain if i talk about product related issues... and start banning conversations. Put it this way is not the same talking about the idea on how useful a real levitating board would be than actually discussing all the problems related to its manufacture. I dont see you getting the point. My attitude is aligned with your moderators behaviour and incompetence. must watch this video to understand how i feel talking to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuxJpWnicU Any way true this is not the correct forum to talk about ideas that might endup being a product, fine with me.

I didnt inflict any rule, i made a sarcastic comment when YOU where giving the initial idea the prospect of a company.... honestly i think this is censorship or applying an absurd rule when the post was undersgoing a good conversation Dumb laws, also called weird laws, strange laws, futile laws, or unnecessary laws, are laws that are perceived to be useless, humorous or obsolete, i.e. no longer applicable (in regard to current culture or modern law). A number of books and websites purport to list dumb laws. These are in many cases based on misunderstandings, exaggerations or outright fabrications.

Its a joke, so i am starting to get worried you are not a bot, so its even more disturbing, i would imagine a bot not understanding jokes but ok you dont either.. Ok, so its not an "idea", and i am not looking for fundraising, did you read the title of the post and all my comments beside the last... can you read? DEFINITION OF CENSORSHIP Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."[2][3][4] Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies. Governments[5] and private organizations may engage in censorship. Other groups or institutions may propose and petition for censorship.[6] When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is referred to as self-censorship. General censorship occurs in a variety of different media, including speech, books, music, films, and other arts, the press, radio, television, and the Internet for a variety of claimed reasons including national security, to control obscenity, child pornography, and hate speech, to protect children or other vulnerable groups, to promote or restrict political or religious views, and to prevent slander and libel. Do you think my post fits into any of those? And i would understand if i actually posted a fund raising post, but i didnt

Why are you censoring my post? the conversation led to this point and i wasnt the one giving my idea the orientation of business, review your bot its doing weird things!

You are right! I think i need a new post asking where to get funding for ideas

We are not focusing the point here. There are two options when it comes to developing new tecnologies. 1 - New important and crucial use cases force development of new tecnologies. 2 - New available tecnologies encourage new use cases that nobody ever thought might exist or even make any sense. I will put an example though, in the US and Europe, the pattern on how elderly people use their water taps in houses is a pre-indicator of demetia or Alzheimer, so if a person leaves its tap running all night or does not use it at all indicates mental health problems, you can imagine if we glue this data in the cloud many things are there to be explored. The fact of it having to be portable is otherwise the cost of installation will not make the device so attractive.

Do you know the price and power consumtion of those devices? Not suitable for portable iot applications... None of them apply, we do not genrate a sound and then measure, we listen to the sound of the pipe and then infere ... We are not focusing the point here. There are two options when it comes to developing new tecnologies. 1 - New important and crucial use cases force development of new tecnologies. 2 - New available tecnologies encourage new use cases that nobody ever thought might exist or even make any sense. So my point is, this is a new way of measuring flow through pipes, it might or might not have its place. As always for me this technology has enhancement at the consumption of the device, a lot cheaper and non invasive, which might open new use cases or not. Bear in mind we are in the Big-Data era, so you might get a glance of were things are going, we want data no matter what(more data = more value), so this might be a cheap way of pputting one kind of data on the cloud... Now its up to clever people to find what to do with that data!

Cool nothing exists yet

Hi guys, i am new to this website. After reading the kind of subjects i decided to write my own post. As the title says i have had an idea of connecting a valve directly to the cloud, so you can command and read data from it using MQTT/API, no mistery there. I will explain a bit about how i got here. I am a professional embedded developer, in my own time we have developed an algorithm that detects the flow of water just by listening to the sound it makes on pipes using Machine Learning(this is the really cool part). So far so good we actually can detect if there is flow and give a quantity of the instantanious flow with a max error of 10%, just by attaching a simple microphone to the pipe, sounds crazy but it works. The thing is that if we could connect our device to a cheap valve we would convert a 5$ valve into a valve that can detect open/close, flow/noFlow and the amount of flow. Given that i have no experience as a product manager i ask the following: Does any of you see this as a useful product? I have attached a picture of an initial proofs of concepts pic1.pdf