Ragingmoron

Some members will be trying to show where observation contradicts my ideas. Others will attempt to probe the underlying logic or terminology. Others still will make snarky comments that serve no purpose whatsoever. Please apply your standards consistently, and I will do my best to keep on topic and defend my assertions with logic. "Energy could not possibly have been infinite at the Big Bang." I'm glad we agree, if you were to re-read my post I daresay you might recognize you have mischaracterized my words. What I said, is that *before* the Big Bang, is a progression of higher and higher energy physics that carries on infinitely. You can never reach the "point of origin" relative to observation, because no matter how long you chase infinity, it remains infinitely far away. Jesus said God is "He who was, is, and always will be" which was the best way the commoners he frequently mingled with could approach his fundamental understanding, that beginnings and ends are relative but reality is eternal. Dark Energy, is the tension between the state of infinite positive energy at the "beginning" of time and the infinite negative energy at the "end" of time. As we move away from infinitely positive energy density (infinite energy concentrated in a single mathematical "point") towards infinitely negative energy density (infinite energy spread out across infinite mathematical "points") in relative terms, the Universe expands. Because time is relative, this expansion occurs unevenly in accordance with localised time.

No. It belongs precisely where it is. There is an underlying assumption that seems to have been made with regards to Relativity that the Singularity can't be exactly what it appears to be. Basic logic makes it clear, this assumption is mistaken. Time is relative. The assumption that the Universe had a beginning is intuitively appealing, but demonstrably illogical.

Before the Big Bang, there is what can be described mathematically as a single point of infinite energy. To reach this "point" would require a journey back through infinite space and time. No relativistic observer could ever make this journey. No matter how far you travel, you will remain infinitely far away, encountering higher and higher energy physics as you go. This "point" of infinite energy (+∞) is the source of all things. At the opposite end of the spectrum, is an infinite expanse void of energy (the vacuum). To reach this place, would require a journey forward through infinite space and time. No relativistic observer could ever make this journey. No matter how far you travel, you will remain infinitely far away, encountering lower and lower energy physics as you go (i.e., redshift). This "expanse" void of energy (-∞) is the backdrop against which relativity plays out. Dark energy, is the natural tension between the "point" of infinite energy, and the "expanse" void of energy. Each place exists permanently in its own right, without beginning or end, and can never be directly observed, because any observer will find themselves infinitely far away regardless of what they do. The thermodynamic arrow of time, is a journey "away" from infinite light and "towards" infinite darkness. No matter what happens, all observers are caught in the balance. The Universe never began, and it will never end. It has always existed, does always exist, and will always exist, just like Jesus said 2000 years ago.