StringJunky

If the hot, dense state was homogenous then any reaction/change was simultaneous everywhere; doesn't matter how big or small it was.

It never was a singularity... it was hot and dense.

And no information is exchanged.

You can have both, can't you? Time zero may just mark the beginning of a new epoch in its evolution. Let's assume inflation is true as that is the current consensus.

I'm not talking about the large scale. I don't use God-like observers anymore... they send you down rabbit-holes...YOU are IN the universe. I don't think you gain any extra understanding trying to stand 'outside' the universe; confounds more clarifies.

You'll have to expand

I am talking about the hot, dense state so everything is as one homogenous entity. At time zero I mean... the instant before inflation. I make no inference to whether universe started at that point. I think we have mentioned before the universe has likely always been around in some form/s.

I thought so. What is the actual principle here they are using?

Yes. Cheers. If the universe was homogenous and, it seems to me, timeless as well, it makes no sense to talk about before the BB, does it? When I look at it that way, Relativity hasn't broken down as a description; it's just that it can't describe what is outside of it's domain because those parameters (Itime and space) haven't yet emerged, beyond that zero point; You don't use the bus timetable to find out when the next plane is. Am I on the right track?

It's working ok at the moment... typical eh? Could it be a low download speed that causes it?

It's only a rabbithole to you, not others, because you don't understand it. SR is not a problem; learn what it actually describes..

That's ok mate. I figured it out what you meant to say.

In the wider view, it's cost pressures on NHS that is causing this situation of people seeking their own sources of medication. It is not illegal as long as one is doing it for oneself; MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) policy allows it as long as they are not on the restricted schedules, of course. From an ethical standpoint and the limitation of available funds, it is understandable that the most poorly get treated first but the efficacy and patient outcomes of treatment is best started early, as I'm sure you know. A dilemma really.

Shouldn't they be the same frame; If the guy in the car next you is moving at the same velocity or at rest WRT you. It looks like to me, atm, you saying the same thing two different ways.

Time for some new batteries....

My question really is: does it make sense that if everything is physically connected and homogenous, time doesn't exist because everything happens simultaneously everywhere in that state?

Yes. Right.

I mentioned in my thread of the same that a lot of people are thinking this in terms of discrete space around/within a frame being affected when it's actually the observer and the signal that should be considered.

Thanks for trying to fix it.

When the universe was in the hot, dense state, was everything causally connected and the time, if it existed at that point, was the same everywhere until inhomogeneity occured i.e. space formed and photons/information could travel? Edit: Might be in the the wrong forum; I just realised Relativity goes awry at time-zero.

I think you are looking for a single decisive factor but it seems their relative rarity in the UK is the result of a multiplicity of inhibiting factors. Here's a few, most alreay mentioned, and I'm sure there are quite a few more: - Temperatures generally low for rampant Leptospira activity - Average UK hygiene is better - Wide humidity range - Can’t tolerate arid conditions - Can’t replicate outside of the host - Average human proximity to rat-infested areas is less

Or, as my grandma use to say: "You're biting your nose to spite your face".

No, it isn't, that's why I asked the question. One doesn't come across odometers everyday except if one drives a car - I call it a 'mileometer'! -. In fact, I didn't know the word until yesterday. . it sounds like a device for smelling things with.

In my thread Clocks and Rulers, I, ignorantly, conflated the ruler and clock as directly equivalent when I should have used an odometer instead of a ruler to compare properly with a clock..

Did a bit of reading. Leptospira is fragile to dry heat and being frozen, slow-growing and needs to pass through the mucus membrane or cuts. Thinking about puddles; how long does one last usually? A few days at most. A rat's got to pee in it and someone has to fall in it with a break in their skin when the bacteria population has sufficient infectious potential (our climate is generally cool) and all this before the puddle dries out. I think it's a combination of the bacteria's relatively fragile traits, slow growth and the weather conditions in the UK. This was one of my sources: Leptospira as an emerging pathogen: a review of its biology, pathogenesis and host immune responses